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Page 1: Chair: Chad Sulkala Acme Body and Paint Vice Chair: George ... › archive › EstCom112801 › 2006-04-EstProced.pdfAcme Body and Paint Vice Chair: George Avery State Farm Insurance

Estimating Procedures Committee

Chair: Chair: Chad SulkalaChad SulkalaAcme Body and PaintAcme Body and Paint

Vice Chair: George AveryVice Chair: George AveryState Farm InsuranceState Farm Insurance

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Feather, Prime and BlockFeather, Prime and Block(Gaps in refinish times)(Gaps in refinish times)

Presentation by theEstimating Committee

April 2006

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Committee Members

ADPMaksim Ovsyannikov -Fountain Valley Body WorksDave March -Paramount Auto BodyTim Waldren -

SCA AppraisalJohn Junk -

Dan's Paint and BodyAaron Schulenburg -

COPARTGene Scambray -LKQ CorporationHerb Lieberman -BASFJoe Skurka -Collision Resources, INC.David McCreight -Auto Body HawaiiMarch Taylor -Hunt / I-CARToby Chess -Sports & Imports CollisionGene Hamilton -State Farm InsuranceGeorge Avery -Acme Body and PaintChad Sulkala -

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Committee Members

Wagonwork Collision CenterMichael Anderson -Akzo-Nobel CoatingsTom Moreland -Dorn’s Body & PaintBarry Dorn -Akzo-Nobel CoatingsDavid Knapp -GW & Son Auto BodyGary Wano -CCC Information Services INC.Bruce Yungkans -CARSTARStacy Bartnik -CARCARE Collision CentersKevin Mehok -Allmerica FinancialRichard Mundinger -ADP Scott Jenkins -Midwest ConsultingCarl Samuels -TECH-CORMark Woirol -Motor Information SystemsRobert Toles -Storm AppraisalBob Smith -

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AprilConclude

Feather, Prime, & Block

JulySupplement Reduction

NovemberRefinish of Repaired Panels

Topics for 2006

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Feather, Prime, and Block

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Committee Activity Presented in April 2005Presented in April 2005

•• ExamplesExamples•• Panel discussionPanel discussion

Presented in July & November 2005Presented in July & November 2005Solicited edit recommendationsSolicited edit recommendationsRevised recommendationRevised recommendation

Feather, Prime, and Block

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PRIME & BLOCKPRIME & BLOCK

Replaced welded panels include grind, fill Replaced welded panels include grind, fill & smooth welded seams up to 150 grit & smooth welded seams up to 150 grit sandpaper. Prime & block (high sandpaper. Prime & block (high build/primerbuild/primer--filler) is a required filler) is a required procedure that continues after the 150 procedure that continues after the 150 grit sanding to restore the panel to that grit sanding to restore the panel to that of an NEW UNDAMAGED condition.of an NEW UNDAMAGED condition.

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PRIME & BLOCKPRIME & BLOCK

It is It is MOTOR'sMOTOR's position that prime & block position that prime & block is a process best reserved for the is a process best reserved for the judgment of an estimator / appraiser judgment of an estimator / appraiser following a thorough on the spot following a thorough on the spot evaluation of the specific vehicle and evaluation of the specific vehicle and damage in question. damage in question.

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The repair process associated with The repair process associated with damaged painted body panels typically damaged painted body panels typically involves multiple operations; body involves multiple operations; body repair, feather, prime, block, and repair, feather, prime, block, and refinish.refinish.

The body repair process includes metal The body repair process includes metal finishing and/or the use of body fillers to finishing and/or the use of body fillers to return the body panel to its undamaged return the body panel to its undamaged contour. The repaired area is finished contour. The repaired area is finished to 150 grit and free of surface to 150 grit and free of surface imperfections.imperfections.

Committee Recommendation

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Feather, prime and block are notFeather, prime and block are not--included included refinish operations that complete the refinish operations that complete the process from 150 grit to the condition of a process from 150 grit to the condition of a new undamaged panel. new undamaged panel.

The refinish process starts at the condition The refinish process starts at the condition of a new undamaged panel and is outlined of a new undamaged panel and is outlined and documented in printed and/or and documented in printed and/or electronic time guides.electronic time guides.

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The body / paint labor and materials The body / paint labor and materials necessary to prepare the repaired area necessary to prepare the repaired area from 150 grit to the condition of a new from 150 grit to the condition of a new undamaged part is a valid and required undamaged part is a valid and required step in the process. step in the process.

The labor and material allowance for The labor and material allowance for these operations requires an on the these operations requires an on the spot evaluation of the specific vehicle spot evaluation of the specific vehicle and damage. and damage.

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Contact Information

Chad Sulkala(617) 522 6040

[email protected]

George Avery(309) 766 8627

[email protected]

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Feather, Prime and BlockFeather, Prime and Block(Gaps in refinish times)(Gaps in refinish times)

Presentation by theEstimating Committee

April 2006