caring conversations: talking about goals of care with patients and families
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Presented at Primary Care Updated 2011, the Eastern Washington Spring CME event.TRANSCRIPT
CARING CONVERSATIONS
Discussing Goals of Care
and Advance Directives
Goals & Objectives
Advance Directives: Why do we have them and what do we do with them?
Evidence Based Medicine for talking about wishes at the end of life
Resources for starting the conversation What do we do when it’s a child? Legal and Ethical Implications
Disclosures
I do not have any financial disclosures to declare
Associations:Center for Practical BioethicsFamily Medicine SpokaneKansas City Hospice and Palliative Medicine
wellness for the healthy
healing for the sick
comfort forthose in the process of
dying
Patient Self Determination Act
What is a “good death?”
“all of us, no matter what our age, gender, class, nationality, religious tradition or not, hope to die well, in reasonable comfort, ripe in years, compos mentis, surrounded by our loved ones, at peace with ourselves and the world, feeling we have lived a good life and prepared to return to our ancestors.”
-Dorothy Austin in Rabbi Julia Neuberger’s book Dying Well.
Nothing is as certain as Death and Taxes
April
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CREATING THE DOCUMENT, MAKING IT OFFICIAL• Where do I start?
• Who do I talk to?• What is specific to my state?• Now what do I do with it?
• Where do I put it?• Who should have a copy?• What if I’m traveling
• In another state?• In another country?
• What if I want to change it?
Advance Directive:
Living Will
+
Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care Decisions
= Advance Directive
The Case Against Advance Directives Even among the 21% of patients that
have completed Advance DirectivesThe document is unavailable at time of needEven if available, care preferences previously
recorded are often discarded when patients approach death○ Patient preferences change over time with
decline in health status○ Physicians do a poor job at prognosis○ Even when prognosis is suspected, Physicians
are reluctant to communicate prognosisWinter L, et al. Ask a different question, get a different answer: why living wills are poor guides to care preference at the end of life.” J Palliat Med. 2010 May;13(5):567-72.
Kansas/Missouri: TPOPP
TOOLS FOR CREATING ADVANCE DIRECTIVES Aging With Dignity: Five Wishes Center for Practical Bioethics
Caring ConversationsCourageous Conversations What Y’all Gon’ Do With Me?
Caring Connections Compassion and Choices National Resource Center on
Psychiatric Advanced Directives Project GRACE Life Support Preferences Questionnaire
(LSPQ)
Five Wishes
Summary of patient wishes for medical record
Project GRACE:
Guidelines for ResuscitationAndCare at End of Life
Washington State DSHS Form
By Caring Connections(NHPCO)
OMG- RUS?
What about Goals of Care discussions for infants, children, and teens with life threatening illness?
ADDING TO YOUR TOOL BOXAdvanced Directive tools created specifically for kids/teens and young adults
5 Wishes: My Wishes My Voice, My Choice Caring Conversations for Young Adults
PEARLS
Talk about it early, same as with adults: at the time of diagnosis
Rules of engagement: Candor, Respect, Collaboration, and Honesty
Figure out who they are and what’s important to them
Ask what’s worrying them
Clark and Liemgruber, AAHPM 2012 Conference, Denver OMG, RUS? Talking with Teens about Dying
VALUES & DESIRES FOR BOTH YOUR
LIVING AND YOUR DYING
Evidence Based Medicine for Directing and teaching a Family Meeting and Discussing
Code Status
The Case of Mrs. R POLST: DNR/DNI Comes to ER with Hypoxia, SOA, has End
Stage COPD. Talking with one word at a time only ABG: 7.1/73/58 ER Doctor says “do you want me to help you
breathe and feel more comfortable?” Mrs. R is started on BiPAP You are Mrs. R’s Primary Care physician,
admitting her to the floor
First Steps
1. Are there advanced directives in place?
2. Do you think CPR is appropriate?
3. Is patient decisional?•Is there a guardian?
•Is there a named surrogate and documentation?
4. Know who patient wants to participate
How do Residents Discuss Code Status?
Nature of the Procedure Mech. Ventilation 100% Endotracheal Intubation 84% Cardioversion 68% Chest Compressions 55% Intensive Care 32%
Outcomes Any Likelihood of Survival with CPR 13% Numerical Estimate of Survival 0%
Patient’s Values or Goals 10%
Risks○ Prolonged ICU Stay 3%○ Neurologic Sequelae 13%○ Procedure-Related 16%
Complications Alternatives
○ Death 6% ○ Comfort Measures 32%JGIM; 1995, Tulsky et al. (n=45). Scott, Don, MD, MHS. CHAMP Advance Directives: The “DNR Discussion.”
Univesrity of Chicago Care of the Hospitalized Aging Medical Patient. champ.bsd.uchicago.edu/.../Advancedirectives.dktemp.nonote.ppt Accessed 3/7/12.
Perceived Barriers Personal discomfort with acknowledging
mortality Fear that raising the topic of death will
compromise the doctor– patient relationship or cause harm to the patient
Limited opportunity or ability to establish rapport and trust with the patient
Difficulty in managing conflict between family members
Few role models who do this wellCalam, Betty, et al. Discussions of “code status” on a family practice teaching ward: What barriers do family physicians face? CMAJ 2000;163(10):1255-9.
Barriers
“I would always be kind of afraid I [might] offend people by talking about this . . . and they would close up on me and think I’m just giving up on them. . . .”
“I think they feel that maybe you’re not telling them the truth, that maybe they’re sicker than you are telling them — otherwise why would you be asking them about that?”
Calam, Betty, et al. Discussions of “code status” on a family practice teaching ward: What barriers do family physicians face? CMAJ 2000;163(10):1255-9.
Barriers
“I think my training, and perhaps the training for all physicians at the time, was such that all our endeavors were to defeat death, prevent death. So in a way I think we try to avoid it, maybe be- cause of our own sense of mortality.”
— Practicing physician
Calam, Betty, et al. Discussions of “code status” on a family practice teaching ward: What barriers do family physicians face? CMAJ 2000;163(10):1255-9.
Intent of CPR
Helpful in in-hospital arrest or out of hospital “field arrest” with AED in:Vfib/Vtach- especially in case of lighteningRespiratory arrest onlyYoung, generally healthy patients
CPR: Dispelling Myths
TV CPR: 75% survive immediate arrest67% survive until discharge
Average hospitalized patient with witnessed arrest:30-40% survive immediate arrest15-18% survive to discharge
CPR: In Hospital Arrest
Poor Predictive Outcomes:Malignancy: 7.8%
○ Bedbound Cancer patients, survival to discharge is 0-1%
History of Trauma 9.7%Septic Shock 7.6%Hepatic Insufficiency 7.3%Acute Stroke 11%Patients who live in SNF: 0-2%PEA: 0-10%
What about…
Patient who is imminently dying and prognosis is on order of hours to days
Patient in whom CPR would cause more harm than the good that would come if they were successfully resuscitated- probable prolonged dying process in hospital
When it is rare that a fully informed patient and family would want to risk so much harm for little or no benefit
Ethics of CPR
Slow Code vs. DNR Default CPR
why make patients “opt out”? Culture, Hospital Policy
When is it ok to not offer CPR?Beneficence: more harm than goodBuddy system
The Case of Mrs. R
Mrs. R continues to work hard on breathing, keeps desaturating
Just before transfer to the floor, CXR reveals a large bullous collapse in RUL
ER places Chest tube Appears very anxious, and nods head
“yes” she is short of breath, “no” she is not in painAsks you to please call her daughter to let her
know that her SNF transferred her hereKeeps trying to take BiPAP off,
Chest. 2011 April; 139(4): 802–809. Published online 2011 February 3. doi: 10.1378/chest.10-1798
Family Meeting: Goals of Care Introductions Define the purpose What do the patient and family
understand about the current condition? Review current condition Review treatment
What has been doneWhat is on the plan for the future
Family Meeting: Goals of Care Find out who the patient is:
Values and goalsLiving Will can come in handyPreserve Autonomy, promote beneficence, advise
against potential harm
Ritual: Strives to ensure dignity
"a way of acting that is designed and orchestrated to distinguish and privilege what is being done in comparison to other”
-Catherine Bell
http://www.parkridgecenter.org/Page125.html
What life events have given you most joy and fond memories?What life events have saddened you the most or caused you regret?
What to you most value about your physical or mental well-being?
Prognosis Physicians tend to feel very uncomfortable
with this Hours-Days/Days-Weeks/Weeks-Months, etc. ePrognosis as a tool Probability estimates of effectiveness of
procedures/interventions that are being offered, if any- use your specialist
Introduce Palliative Services or Hospice if appropriateDNR does not mean “do not treat”
Phrases to Avoid Do you want us to do everything? It doesn’t look very good. What should we do if your (or your
mother’s) heart stops? If we do CPR and break your ribs and
you need to be on a breathing machine, do you want us to do that?
I think it is time to withdrawal care Avoid the term, “futility”
Suggested Approach to Communication Acknowledge up front that this is often a
difficult subject Emphasize the desire to know the
patient’s values Inquire about the patient and family’s
perception of their current illness trajectory
Documentation of Family Meeting Who was there? Who was making decisions?
Patient? Document capacityIf not, who
What did you recommend? What was decided and why
The Case of Mrs. R
Family Meeting goes swimmingly Decision made to discontinue BiPAP,
change to NC if indicated You treat her dyspnea with iv/sc
morphine and a fan in the room, ativan for disconnecting the brain-lung connection
She goes home to live with her daughter on home hospice