camra’s tasting panels
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Tasting Panels
Agenda
• Background
• How they work
• Their responsibilities
• Getting involved
• What stops people getting involved
• What next
Background• CAMRA has operated tasting panels since 1989.
• There are 78 Panels across the country (not all are active).
• Taste-trained CAMRA members taste real ales and record their
characteristics on tasting cards.
• Panels are responsible for defining the style of any beer. This is
based on a beer’s characteristics as they fit in with CAMRA’s beer
styles
– NB This may not fit in with what the
brewer thinks. They may be using
different definitions!
Background• The data collected is used for:
– Tasting notes for CAMRA’s Brewery Information System
– Publications particularly the Good Beer Guide but also beer
festival programmes
– Nominations for area competitions for Champion Beer of Britain
(CBoB) and Champion Winter Beer of Britain awards (CWBoB)
• The information also allows a style
of a beer to be determined.
• Investigations of changes in beer
character can be passed to the BLO.
How they work
National Tasting Co-ordinator
Paul Moorhouse
Regional Tasting Co-ordinators Regions
London/ South East
England
Kevin Travers
Panels
Wales
Neil Goodman
Panels
Scotland/N Ireland
Eric Mills
Panels
North West
England
Chris Sandison/
Lynda Johnson
Panels
North East England/ Yorkshire
David Dixon
Panels
East Midlands
Norman Hall
Panels
West Midlands
Geoff Cross
Panels
South West England
Steve Barber Andy
Coston
Panels
East Anglia
Paul Moorhouse
Panels
Members of the
Tasting Panels
Advisory Group
How they work
National Champion Beer of Britain
(CBOB) DirectorGary Timmins
CBOB Area Coordinators
9 Regions
London/ South East
England
Kevin Travers
Panels
Wales
John Lamb
Panels
Scotland/N Ireland
Lindsay Grant
Panels
North West England
Chris DeCordova
Panels
North East England/ Yorkshire
Stewart
Campbell
Panels
East Midlands
Gill Hough
Panels
West Midlands
Jim Witt
Panels
South West
England
Rod Davis
Panels
East Anglia
Paul and Kathy
Moorhouse
Panels
Members of the CBOB
Working Group
How they work• Each Panel has a Chair
• The Panel Chairs are responsible for recruiting tasters and
co-ordinate local activities of panel
• Panel members taste beers and complete the tasting
cards. They can do any beer but tend to concentrate on
beers brewed in their area
• Panel members will then
recommend a beer’s style
based on CAMRA’s style
guidelines
How they workThe Panel Chair will then:• Collate and summarise completed tasting cards.
• Based on the feedback, decide on what style the beer should be
listed as.
• Use summaries to write tasting notes
• Enter tasting notes onto the Brewery Information System.
o Longer version gives more
details on a beer
o 20 word description for the
GBG
• Submit panel nominations for
CBoB/CWBoB area competitions
Winners of the area competitions
go forward to the Winter or Summer finals
Tasting Panel’s
responsibilities
• The first stage is to get trained. Panel Chair will arrange local
training.
• Any CAMRA member with adequate tasting abilities is eligible.
Everyone’s palate is different and therefore each Panel needs a
wide range of participants.
• Training helps identify flavours
and aromas present in beer
Tasting cardCAMRA BEER TASTING CARD Surveyor Venue
Date Brewer BeerABV
%OG
Type of Real AleCask Keg
Bottle Can Quality Check
Tick Boxes:Temperature OK Carbonation OK
Absence of UnwantedOff-flavours
ClarityBri Clr
Haz CldColour
Bl RB DB LBAm Go Ye St
Other Colour
MouthfeelSm Cr
Gr Wa OtBody
ThickAverage Thin
Taste Profile (Scores out of 10) M
alt
Ro
ast
Car
ame
l
Ho
ps
Cit
rus
Fru
it
Sulp
hu
r
Yeas
t
Swee
tnes
s
Bit
tern
ess
Ast
rin
gen
cy Other FlavoursName Citrus, Fruit &
Other Flavours
1 2 3CF
Aroma 1
Taste 2
Aftertaste 3
Notes
Style
Bitter: Session / Premium Pale, Blond & Golden Ale : Session/ PremiumIPA Mild Brown Ale & Strong Mild Stout & Porter: Session / StrongBarley Wine & Strong Ale Speciality: Differently-produced / Flavoured
For ABV ranges, see note 15 in Tasting Procedure.
Overall Score for
CBoB
Tasting Panel’s
responsibilities
• Panels may visit breweries in order to get tasting cards done.
Out of politeness, try and inform the BLO of the visit.
• It’s also a good way to get the Panel members
together to help to
standardise scoring.
Tasting Panel’s
responsibilities • Pubs are the best place to taste the beer - useful if you are a
regular pub goer.
• But beer festivals and breweries can be used to top up.
• Different Panels will
expect different numbers
of cards but 2 a month
per taster averaged across
the year would be great.
What puts people off
1. Don’t have a good enough palate
– Everyone’s palate is different
– Very few people can’t taste
2. Getting it wrong!
– So does everyone at first
– Standardisation with other
Panel members
3. Don’t know the words to use
– When drinking a beer,
look it up in the Good Beer
Guide and see if you agree
What Next?
• Contact your local Tasting Panel Chair or, if there isn’t one, the
Regional Coordinator (or leave your name with us)
• Get yourself trained
• Practice and practice
⁻ Your palate will become
more sophisticated and you’ll
be able to pick out more
flavours and identify them.
So get involved. It’s fun and
who doesn’t like drinking beer!
Cheers!