bus and truck charging interface
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Bus and Truck
Charging Interface
Presenter: Mark Kosowski, EPRI
Meeting
March 29, 2016
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Bus and Truck Charging Interface Group
There is a need to standardize bus charging prior to building an infrastructure including depot, wireless, and overhead charging
Discussion points are standardizing and understanding the utility and bus interfaces
Meetings occur about 3 times per year adjacent to the IWC meetings
Lots of Interest from – Utilities,
– Bus Manufacturers,
– Transit Authorities,
– Charger Manufacturers, and
– Laboratories
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Current Participants
Currently, there more than 105 participants on the roster
This meeting has 40 registrants
OEMs (11) Utilities (12) Transit Authorities (6) Charger Manufacturers (7) Organizations (10)
BYD Alabama Power APTA ABB CalStart
BAE Systems APS Foothill Transit Clipper Creek CARB
Complete Coach Centerpoint Chicago Eaton CEC
Ebus Exelon Metro Transit- Minn EVO Charge CTE
Gillig Hydro-Quebec New York City Siemens EEI
New Flyer NYPA LA County Toshiba EPRI
OLEV PG&E Wave REMA
Opbrid SCE SAE
Proterra SDG&E Sierra Club
Transpower SMUD UL
Volvo- Nova Bus SRP
TVA
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Bus and Truck Charging Interface Group
At least four charging interfacing standards have emerged–Manual DC connection at high power- SAE J-1772
An existing document that will make provisions for the higher power needs of the busses
–Wireless connection at high power- SAE J-2954
A developing document that will make provisions for the higher power needs of the busses
–Overhead connection at high power- SAE J-3105
New document which started late last year
–Manual 3 phase AC at high power- SAE J-3068
New document that is getting good acceptance
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IWC Meeting Notice
The Infrastructure Working Council (IWC)
meets tomorrow at this same place.
The IWC has been meeting 3 to 4 times a year
since the mid 1990s
The IWC brings the electric industry together-
utilities, light duty OEMs, SAE, and other
bodies, to discuss the issues and bring
understanding
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CARB Workgroup Meeting Notice
Subject: bus-act -- Electric Utility and Transit Fleet Electrification Workgroup Meeting on April 8, 2016
ARB is holding a public meeting to discuss heavy duty fleet transportation electrification opportunities with transit fleets on Friday, April 8, 2016. Featured speakers include representatives from California Public Utility Commission, Los Angeles Department of Water & Power, Sacramento Municipal Utility District, Pacific Gas & Electricity, San Diego Gas & Electric, Southern California Edison, and energy storage technology providers. Topics include background on SB350 and transportation electrification, transit agency needs and concerns, electricity costs and demand charges, long-term price signal, infrastructure, and user side management. All interested parties are welcome to participate. The meeting agenda is posted at http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/bus/utwg160408agenda.pdf.
The time and location for the meeting are as follows:
10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Friday, April 8, 2016
Sierra Hearing Room
Cal/EPA Headquarters Building
1001 I Street, Sacramento, California 95814
This workshop will be webcast and can be watched at http://www.calepa.ca.gov/broadcast/?BDO=1. Stakeholders viewing by webcast can submit comments and questions to staff during the workshop through email at [email protected]. All workshop materials, including agenda, presentations, etc. will be posted on the Advanced Clean Transit website at:
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/bus/actmeetings.htm.
If you have any questions regarding this workshop, please contact Yachun Chow, Manager, Zero Emission Truck and Bus Section, at [email protected] or at (916) 322-7450.
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Bus Charging Interface Group
Next Meeting
Please let me know if you are interested and a
registration form will go out later
When
Tuesday, June 7, 2016
Where
Seattle, Washington
Hosted by
Seattle City Light
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SAE J-3105 Status
Overhead Charging
Presenter: Mark Kosowski, EPRI
March 29, 2016
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Meeting Schedule and Membership
A link to the SAE membership form is shown below. If desired,
please fill in form and send back to Mark Kosowski for
membership. It is not required to be an SAE member to be on
committee. Also there are different levels of participation.
http://www.sae.org/standardsdev/participationReq/
Also the meeting minutes, documents and meetings will be at
the link below, but you need to be a member of the committee.
http://www.sae.org/servlets/works/committeeHome.do?comtID=
TEVHYB13
Meeting Schedule
2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 11 am ET (late in Europe and early
for California)
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Overhead Charging Document
Overhead connection at high power- SAE J-3105
–Document wants to standardize the interface between the
Overhead infrastructure and the bus
–Committee meets twice a month
Power Levels
Power Configurations
Connection Points
Communications
Safety
Alignment Protocol
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Requirements of Existing Overhead Systems
Overhead Charging systems and their existing design elements are being identified
Item Item Category Proterra Siemens ABB New Flyer F+F Opbrid Opbrid #2 Schunk SLS101 Schunk SLS201In Use Today Design Experience yes yes Yes yes yes Yes Yes
Number of Revenue Locations Active Design Experience 13 1 3
Approximate Number of Charges Design Experience >2500 Since 1Q 2015
Compatibility Physical Connection New Flyer
Proprietary
Volvo/Siemens/A
BB OR "Trukbaar"
In-Line Contacts
Compatibility Communication New Flyer
Proprietary
Volvo/Siemens/A
BB WiFi 15118
Volvo interface and
others
OEMs VDL, Solaris Hybricon VDL, Solaris
Power Configuration Charge Rate DC DC DC DC DC DC DC
Max Current In Use (A) with duration Charge Rate 1200 450 1000A over 30s
500A over 15min
900A 5 minutes 1000A over 30s
500A over 15min
1000A over 30s
500A over 15min
Max Current (A) Continuous 500
Max Voltage In Use (V) Charge Rate 550 750 750 750 750 750 750
Max Current Design Limit (A) with duration Charge Rate 2000 adaptable
- higher diamter
of cable
- other contact
material
1500 10 minutes adaptable
- higher diamter of
cable
- other contact
material
adaptable
- higher diamter of
cable
- other contact material
Max Current Design Limit (A) Continuous 515
Max Voltage Design Limit (V) Charge Rate 1000 750 800 1000 750 750
Mating Apparatus Mounting Location Physical overhead overhead Counterpart on infrastructure sideoverhead Overhead Counterpart on
infrastructure side
counterpart on the bus
roof
Loss Of Power Self Return Physical yes yes emergency handcrank yes Yes (electrical) emergency handcrank yes
As Designed Mount Height Limitations Physical yes yes ? yes yes ? ?
Design Mount Height Absolute Limitations Physical no no ? no no ? ?
Contact Surface Physical copper E-copper copper copper
Number of Contacts Physical Earth, Plus, Neg, Pilot 3, 4 and 5 Earth (PE), Plus,
Neg
Earth (PE), Plus,
Neg, Pilot
3, 4 and 5 4
Pantograph Type Physical bottom-up Schunk SLS 101 Inverted bottom-up top-down
Pantograph mounting Physical Infrastructure side bus side Bus Side Infrastructure bus side infrastructure
Buy America Reasonably Expected Procurement yes yes? yes yes yes yes yes
Total Longitudinal Accuracy Required (in) Customer Experience 1000 +/- 1000mm +/- 36 Inches
(Default, can be
increased)
Inline-40" (100cm)
Parallel-23"(60cm)
+/- 1000mm +/- 250mm for the
VOLVO interface
other interfaces higher!
Total Lateral Accuracy Required (in) Customer Experience 18 +/- 350mm
- depends on
the position on
the bus roof
+/- 8 Inches Inline-14" (36cm)
Parallel 23"(60cm)
+/- 350mm
- depends on the
position on the bus
roof
+/- 250mm for the
VOLVO interface
other interfaces higher!
Time To Connect (sec) Customer Experience 30 30 4-5s Physical - 1 to 5 Sec Physical - 5 Sec 4-5s 15s - depends on distance
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Requirements of Existing Overhead Systems (2)
Item Item Category Proterra Siemens ABB New Flyer F+F Opbrid Opbrid #2 Schunk SLS101 Schunk SLS201Snow Handling Physical systems prevents
accumulation
systems
prevents
accumulation
No problem systems prevents
accumulation
systems prevents
accumulation
No problem No problem
Cost Procurement - - -
HV Touch Safe While Not Charging Electrical yes yes n.a. yes Yes n.a. n.a.
HV Touch Safe While Charging Electrical yes no n.a. no No n.a. n.a.
Assisted Approach Customer Experience yes no ? no No ? ?
Number of Contacts Electrical 4 4 3,4 or 5 3 4 3,4 or 5 4
Communication Medium Electrical Industrial WiFi depends on
project
Powerline WiFi depends on project depends on project
Communication Protocol Electrical Unique Chademo
Variant
Unique
J1772CCS
Variant
n.a. Unique Chademo
Variant
Unique J1772CCS
Variant
n.a. n.a.
Bus Detector Sensor on Ground Electrical No yes n.a. yes On Bus (Laser) n.a. n.a.
International Standards active n.a. N/A Active n.a. n.a.
Height Clearance to ground when retracted counterpart
mounted on
4.5m
152" 4.7m = 15.4' counterpart mounted
on 4.5m
depends on mounting
height
- total working range
2.5m
Articulation Span (vertical) (in) 1.5m Variable
depending on site
Variable
depending on site
1.5m 2.5m
Design Clearance ? Variable
depending on site
3.1m to 4.4m (10.2'-
14.4')
? ?
Double Decker Compatible No N/A Yes No Yes
Over the Road Coach Compatible ? N/A Yes ? ?
Maximum Contact Pressure 100N +/- 10% 600N per Contact
Compensation for Kneeling Yes Yes
Number of connection cycles >10,000
Operational Temperature -40C to +50C -40C to +55C (-40F
to 131F)
Wind tolerance High
Connection Noise Negligable (spring-
raised)
Connection Sequence Simultaneous PE then +- then
Pilot (mechanical)
Operator Control Sequence
Charge Initiation
Charging Indicator Signal for Operator None None
Manual Operation for Pantograph None None
Preventative Maintenance Intervals
Charging Feedback to Operator yes
Charging Feedback to Passenger no
Charge Termination
Fault Control ie fire, collision
E-stop on bus
E-stop off bus
System feedback Service
System feedback Customer
System feedback Operator
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High Level Decisions and Existing Standards
J3105 J3068 J2954 J1772 J2931 J2836-2/J2847-2 J2953
Overhead Hi Power
Manual
Wireless Level 2 Commun
Protocol
Protocol Interoperability
Communication Mechanism CP, Wifi and PLC Baseband
Digital
Inductive PLC/ Wifi/pilot Yes Yes Yes
Interoperability Yes NA NA NA NA Yes Yes
Power Configuration DC only 3 Phase AC High Freq- AC AC and DC NA NA NA
Power Level- Max 150 kW ??? 150 kW ?? 100 kW DC
(350 kW DC ?)
NA NA NA
Voltage at Interface- Max 300V to 750V
?????
NA NA 500 VDC
(800 -100 VDC ?)
NA NA NA
Current at Interface- Max ???? NA NA 200 A
(350 A ?)
NA NA NA
Connection Type Articulation on
Infrastructure
Manual Air Gap Manual NA NA NA
Location of Contact Interface Reference to
Front of Bus,
Front Axle, or
passenger
door??
NA NA NA NA NA NA
Height Clearance to ground
when articulation is retracted
Local Codes NA NA NA NA NA NA
Articulation Span As low as 9 feet
from the ground
???
NA NA NA NA NA NA
Charge Dwell Time- Max 24 hours ????? NA NA NA NA NA NA
Driver Interface Automatic, or
Semi Control ??
NA NA NA NA NA NA
Alignment Major plus
Minor ???
NA Yes Magnetic
Vector
NA NA NA NA
Existing Standards for Reference
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CHARGER
BATTERY PACK
DC
Plus
Neg
Ground
Pilot
Standard Interface
J3105 Interface Definition
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Schunk Overhead System
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Schunk Overhead System
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Opbrid Overhead System
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Opbrid Overhead System
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Opbrid Overhead System
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Opbrid Overhead System
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Nova Bus Overhead System (Siemens and ABB)
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New Flyer Overhead System
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Proterra Overhead System
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Proterra Overhead System
General docking:https://www.youtube.com/embed/zKM8v0Vdasc?start=38&end=100&showsearch=0&autoplay=1&rel=0&version=3
Actual head land:https://www.youtube.com/embed/zKM8v0Vdasc?start=101&end=130&showsearch=0&autoplay=1&rel=0&version=3
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Proterra Overhead System
Overhead Charge Standards Survey Development
Jason Hanlin CTE
PURPOSE
• Establish a subgroup to help organize and define customer-driven requirements for the overhead charge standards (SAE J-3105) development that is currently in work through the development and administration of a survey.
• Could also help inform wireless charge standard (J-2954) development
BACKGROUND/PROCESS
• The overall process will be to
1) convene bus OEM subgroup to define what questions should be asked of customers (transit agencies, etc) to gather
the system needs, parameters, constraints; 2) survey the
customers; 3) utilize responses to shape the requirements
necessary to establish standards associated with overhead
charging.
• The requirements are expected to primarily address
parameters associated with physical interfaces, electrical
interfaces, and control interfaces.
• The questions/survey are generic and focus on required operational needs (not design details or system functionality).
• Expect to have a documented source for the standards that
ultimately get developed.
• Focus is on transit agencies as customers.
SUBGROUP INVOLVEMENT
• Bus OEMS – Proterra, New Flyer, Nova
Bus, Gillig
• Infrastructure – Siemens, ABB, Opbrid
• Transit – NYCT
• Consortium – CTE, CALSTART
EXAMPLE QUESTIONS
OPERATIONS SECTION
9 Urban Route characteristics
a Route length- Average? Minimum? Maximum?
b Daily range - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
c Layover duration - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
d Stop duration - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
e Route speeds - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
f Headway distance - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
g Headway speeds - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
h Do headways change during the day for a given service route (for instance during rush hour)?
10 Rural Route characteristics
a Route length - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
b Daily range - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
c Layover duration - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
d Stop duration - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
e Route speeds - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
f Headway distance - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
g Headway speeds - Average? Minimum? Maximum?
11 Operations characteristics
a Do buses depart from transit center on a pulse schedule or continuously?
STATUS
Survey questions completed over 3 sessions
Clean up questions and finalize survey
Distribute to group and hold one more session to refine overall survey
Test Survey
Introduce survey to stakeholders at APTA Bus and Paratransit meeting May 15-18 Charlotte and encourage completion
Distribute survey to transit industry
Organize responses for review by J-3105 committee (and others, as desired)
QUESTIONS/COMMENTS?
• Process?
• Survey Questions?
• Involvement?
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Summary
Requirements are being identified from
1) The existing systems
2) New survey
3) Certain document sections will be shared from other
documents
The plan would be to compare the existing to the new
requirements and determine the new standard for overhead
charging.
The plan is to complete the document by the end of this year.
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Contact Information
Mark Kosowski
EPRI
248-421-7124
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CHARGER
BATTERY PACK
Depot Charging- DC Charging (J-1772 or equiv)
Future SAE J-1772
DC
Charger
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CHARGER
BATTERY PACK
Depot Charging- 3 Phase AC (J-3068)
Inverter/
Charger
SAE J-3068 3 phase AC
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SAE J-2954 Status
High Power Wireless
Charging
Presenter: Mark Kosowski, EPRI
March 29, 2016
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Wireless Charging-high power- SAE J-2954
Unfortunately, Jesse Schneider, task force chair, will not be able to attend
the meeting today.
The SAE TIR J2954 light duty document is about to start balloting for
publication soon. Currently, the maximum power is 22 kW.
The Heavy Duty Document has not been started.
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Wireless Charging-high power- SAE J-2954
Unfortunately, Jesse Schneider, task force chair, will not be able to attend
the meeting today.
The SAE TIR J2954 light duty document is about to start balloting for
publication soon. Currently, the maximum power is 22 kW.
The Heavy Duty Document has not been started.
However, where does the bus industry want to go
with Wireless Charging? Max Power?
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Wireless Charging-high power- SAE J-2954
Jesse indicates that the potential lead for the Heavy duty
program has changed companies and is not able to lead.
Is there someone amongst us that could lead the challenge?
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Backup
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High Level Requirements
Physical
Contact TensionGeometry
Height ClearanceLongitudal Distance from Reference
Side to Side Distance from ReferenceContact Spacing and Location
ArticulationGeometryLocation (upper or lower)
ElectricalMaximum Power
Voltage CurrentCharge Dwell Time MaxBi-Directional PowerEMI/EMC
Communications/ControlSmart Grid Capability
Approach Control Safety
Safety Certification, UL, TUV, etcIsolation
InsulationEmergency StopExposed Contacts or not
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Battery Pack
Charger
Longitudinal Dimension
Generic Bus
Axle
Door
Front
Is there a mechanism that will allow independence to the longitudinal dimension?
i.e. Will lasers work to guide the operator?
What mechanisms do we already have?
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RequirementsJ3105
Overhead New Flyer Opbrid Proterra Complete
Coach
Gillig BYD BAE Ebus Volvo
Communication Mechanism CP, Wifi and PLC Secure Wifi DSRC, V2V, V2G
Interoperability Yes
Power Configuration DC only DC DC DC 3 ph AC
Power Level- Max 150 kW ??? Multiples of
150 kW
Up to 1 MW 1 MW
typical 500 kW
Voltage at Interface- Max 300V to 750V
?????
750 V or
higher
750 V or
higher
300V – 750V
Current at Interface- Max ???? 1500 A
Connection Type Articulation on
Infrastructure
Articulation
on
Infrastructure
Articulation
on
Infrastructur
e or bus
Articulation on
Infrastructure
Location of Contact Interface Reference to
Front of Bus,
Front Axle, or
passenger
door??
Reference to
Front Axle
Referenced
to Front Door
Referenced to
Front Door
Height Clearance to ground
when articulation is retracted
Local Codes May need a
survey 14 feet
Articulation Span As low as 9 feet
from the ground
???
Charge Dwell Time- Max 24 hours ????? NA ??? 30 min
(>90% duty cycle
of infrastructure
use)
Driver Interface Automatic, or
Semi Control ??
Automatic, or
Semi Control
Alignment Major plus
Minor ???
Initial Requirements
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