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Building alliance to address mental health in primary care
Larry Wissow, MD MPHJohns Hopkins School of Public
Health, Baltimore, MD
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Goals
• Learn about the importance of alliance (patient-doctor; patient-staff; patient-office) in promoting the care of mental health problems
• Learn some techniques for fostering patient-doctor alliance
• Using the alliance to ask about things that patients/parents might not expect you to ask about
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Disclosure
• No conflicts to report
• Grateful to funders and collaborators– Duke Endowment– National Institute of Mental Health– Dr. Anne Gadomski (Bassett Healthcare)
• Oregon Pediatric Society
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Cases to think about
• Foster parent brings in the bag of pills and says they aren’t working
• Parent seems depressed or has revealed problems on a screening form
• In the middle of a short medical visit the family raises a mental health issue
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Background/philosophy
• Pediatric practices see same range of severity as child psychiatrists– But distribution varies
• Many different ways to cope– Good triage– Develop your own skills– Co-locate with mental health
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Core needs
• Efficiently rule out emergencies
• Provide immediate relief and advice
• Develop a mutually agreeable plan for next steps
• Stay in control of the visit and balance the needs of this patient with the needs of others
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To meet core needs
• Core capability for any solution might be called “alliance” with family– Partnership, engagement…
• Data from adult primary care studies of depression treatment– Relationship with provider predicted
engagement and outcome
Van Os TW. J Affect Disord 2005;84:43-51. Frémongt P. Encephale 2008;34:205-10.
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Why start with a focus on alliance?
• Advice alone isn’t enough– < 50% of psychosocial concerns disclosed– < 50% of mental health referrals kept– < 50% of children who start mental health
treatment finish
• Evidence from psychotherapy– Predicts outcome over and above any
specific treatment (including medications)
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Elements of alliance in psychotherapy
• Agreement on nature of problem
• Agreement on what to do (and when to do it)
• “Affective bond” with provider– Trust– Optimism– Relief
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Why alliance especially with mental health issues?
• Particularly stigmatizing
• Doubt and equivocation part of the “illness”
• Not sure that you’re the one to tell
• Afraid to hear the answer
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What builds alliance?
• Evidence that process starts with initial interaction with office– Image of relationship built from staff as a whole,
not just the pediatrician– Patients value flexible, open staff who can
• pinch hit for each other• help trouble shoot problems• speed things up when needed• realize when the patient’s context has changed
Ware NC. Psychiatr Serv. 1999;50:395-400. Pulido R. Arch Psych Nursing 2008;22:277-87.
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Patient trust and practice climate
• Adult primary care patients’ trust in provider related to:– Physicians and staff reporting better collaboration
with each other, more autonomy, ability to delegate to each other
• Trust then relates to:– Attribution of influence over healthy behaviors to
provider recommendations
Becker ER, Medical Care 2008;46:795-805
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Alliance building 1:1
1. Feeling heard and understood (the bond)2. Seeking agreement on a working formulation
of the problem3. Seeking permission to offer advice
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1. Feeling heard and understood
• Heard: active listening– Creating the illusion of taking time– Verbal and non-verbal indicators of paying
attention– Actions that “co-construct” the story
• Understood: agreement on the nature of the concerns and the highest priorities
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2. Seeking agreement on a working formulation of the problem
• Asking for permission to gather more information– Opportunity to open up more sensitive areas,
rule outs, emergencies
• Asking for permission to offer a preliminary idea of the problem– Asking if you’ve got it– Cycling back to more questions
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3. Seeking permission to offer advice
• Ready to act?– If not, what would it take?
• What can we do now?
• What might we need to do next?
• Responding to “no”
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1. Feeling heard and understood
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Shaping concerns and managing time
• Open-ended questions
• Anything else?
• Breaking into the story
• Managing the two-patient visit
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Skills for rambling (co-construction)
1. “I want to make sure we don’t run out of time…”
2. Summarize your understanding and ask for additional concerns
3. Specifically ask for focus • “Which one of those is hardest?”• “Pick one of those to start with.”• Ask for a specific example
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“Pick one”
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Two in the visit: skills when turn-taking interrupted
• Possible tactics• Shift in body language• Acknowledge and re-direct• Reminder of “rules”
• Considerations• Timing• Status of person interrupting or interrupted
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“Enforcing” taking turns - child
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Skills when participants are angry at each other
• Rationale– Want to manage negative affect in the visit (and help
people move on to problem solving)– Want to demonstrate that dialog is possible
• Several “flavors” of extreme statements– “Black or white” statements leave no room for
discussion– Critical comments about family members– Set-ups involving vague, value-laden goals
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Responding to “black or white”
• Characterized by “always,” “never,” or similar words
• Point out and ask for restatement– Be prepared if you choose to challenge the
generalization– Alternative: ask for “something easier to hear”
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Responding to “black or white” with “say something easier”
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Common issues in agenda setting
• Parent and child/youth have different priorities
• Family priorities not same as yours’• Opportunities for additional visits are
limited• You really do want to accomplish more than
you have time for!
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Skills for agenda setting
• Making sure this process is clear to patient/parent
• Playing back the list of concerns• Asking for priorities• Getting agreement from all parties• Openly and collaboratively problem solve
about limitations on follow-up visits
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2. Getting to agreement on a working formulation
• Why ask for permission to get more information?
• What is it that you want to know?– Sensitive but important details– Data related to possibly urgent treatment
needs (including overall level of function)– What they think might be the underlying
cause
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Small group task
• Pick a common condition (ie, depression)
• Brainstorm most efficient ways to ask about:– Overall function and possible indicators of need
for urgent care
– Sensitive but possibly important information related to the child or family
– Initial somatic causes/rule outs
– What child/family has already thought about as cause/underlying issue
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Reports from groups
• Focus on the first 2-3 minutes worth of questions that will help you decide where you are going with this problem
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Hint about severity/function
• Questions from “SDQ”– Do the difficulties you mentioned distress you
(teen) or your child (younger child)?• How much?
– How much do they interfere with life?• At home• With friends• In school• In other activities
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3. Asking for permission to offer advice
• Summing up your thinking and checking for agreement– May need to cycle back to get more
information
• Do they still agree that this is something they want to do something about?– If no, what should be monitored, what would it
take?
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Giving advice
• Rationale– Being directive can fail even when people want help
• Anxiety, ambivalence, shame, loss of control
– Medical provider is usually not the first person in the chain of consultation
• People come with prior ideas and opinions (about cause, condition, treatment) that need to be incorporated
– People will accept advice they can’t follow• Need to actively identify barriers
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Asking about readiness to act
• People may be aware of a problem but not yet ready to act on it– The kind of advice needed depends on this
“stage of change”– Mis-matched advice likely to be rejected
• If ready: get permission to give advice
• If not ready: what would motivate action?
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What would be grounds to act?
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When you get to give advice
• Ask for permission– Helps patients maintain sense of control
• Ask for their ideas• Offer advice as set of choices
– Preferably include their ideas among choices
• Frame as short and long term plans– What might help now– What diagnostic steps to take
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Asking about barriers
• Easy to skip this step in a quick visit
• Evidence suggests even motivated patients appreciate help with logistics
• Asking allows people to think through and get more committed to plan
• Opportunity to build alliance and anticipate “resistance”
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Responding to “resistance”
• Overall, emphasize choice and time to discuss
• Apologize for getting ahead
• Agreeing with a twist
• What would it take?
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Getting information: apologize for “getting ahead”
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Getting information: what would be grounds to act?
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Agree “with a twist” and inform
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Summing up
• Evidence suggests these skills are worth the time it takes to use them– Also suggests they don’t take that much time
• It’s a team effort – worth thinking about who on the team does what part best
• Only a part of building a larger system of care– But may be an essential part
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Much thanks