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Bubbles, Ponzi Schemes, and Investments Dale DeBoer, Ph.D. 2013

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Prepared for CCEE Seminar, October 2013.

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Page 1: Bubbles, Ponzi Schemes, and Investments

Bubbles, Ponzi Schemes, and Investments

Dale DeBoer, Ph.D.2013

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How would you know?

•The (ab)normal market

•There is no such thing

•Historical performance

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S&P 500

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S&P 500

5.7%

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S&P 500

8.7%

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S&P 500, P/E

15.7

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Thinking about P/E ratios

•Suppose P/E = 10

•Price = 10

•Earnings = 1

•Rate of return?

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Thinking about P/E ratios

•P/E = 15.6

•Rate of return?

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Thinking about P/E ratios

•P/E = 15.6

•Rate of return?

•1÷15.6 = 6.4%

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Thinking about P/E ratios

•Issues

•Backward looking

•Dividends

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S&P 500, P/E

18.1

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Importance of P/E ratios

•1 point increase above long run average correlates with 25% reduction in subsequent return

•Statistically significant at 1%

•Only captures 30% of variability

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S&P 500

1.8%

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Wilshire 5000

4.9%

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DOW

2.3%

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Can this be beaten?

•Without fraud!

•Risk-reward tradeoff

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Can this be beaten?

•Without fraud!

•Risk-reward tradeoff

•Leverage

•Hedge funds

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•$100 invested

•10% return

•$10 earned

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•$100 invested

•Same investment, but only 10% down

•Interest rate 5%

•10% return on investment

•$10 earned - $4.50 paid in interest

•Rate of return?

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•$100 invested

•Same investment, but only 10% down

•Interest rate 5%

•10% return on investment

•$10 earned - $4.50 paid in interest

•Rate of return? 55%

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Can this be beaten?

•Without fraud!

•No fraud, but broken fundamentals

•Bubbles and the greatest idiot theory

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Text

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tulip_price_index1.svg

2,400% over 3 months30,417,400% over 1 year

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http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/11/global-house-prices

7.1% per year

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https://www.google.com/finance?cid=13756934

40.6% per year

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Series average: 3.7%“Bubble” average: 12.3%

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Can this be beaten?

•Without fraud!

•No fraud, but broken fundamentals

•Fraud

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Can this be beaten?

•Without fraud!

•No fraud, but broken fundamentals

•Fraud

•Insider information

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Can this be beaten?

•Without fraud!

•No fraud, but broken fundamentals

•Fraud

•Insider information

•Ponzi schemes, pyramids, and Herbalife(?)

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Charles Ponzi

•International exchange coupons and arbitrage

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Charles Ponzi

•International exchange coupons and arbitrage

•Investors needed

•Initial promise: 50% every 90 days

•Subsequent promise: 50% every 45 days

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Charles Ponzi

•International exchange coupons and arbitrage

•Investors needed

•Making the payments

•Withdraw or reinvest?

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Charles Ponzi

•International exchange coupons and arbitrage

•Investors needed

•Making the payments

•The importance of the individual at the center

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A pyramid

•The “Prosperity Club” letter

•Denver, 1935

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A pyramid

•The “Prosperity Club” letter

•The power of exponentiation

•8 rounds: 390,625

•15 rounds: 6,103,515,625

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The Herbalife question

•Bill Ackman

•Pershing Square Capital Management

•“Pyramid schemes like Herbalife [are] particularly vulnerable to product-quality concerns”

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The Herbalife question

•Bill Ackman

•Multi-level marketing

•Is it different from a pyramid?

•The question of product

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An economists simple look at

investing

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Paul Samuelson

•“Investing should be dull. It shouldn’t be exciting. Investing should be more like watching paint dry or grass grow.”

•The parable of 64 monkeys

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The Efficient Market Hypothesis•Markets (and market prices) reflect

all information

•What information is this?

•The question of $20 on the sidewalk

•Evidence?

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Even if not true...

•Can you beat 31,000?

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Even if not true...

•Can you beat 31,000?

•7 milliseconds!

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Even if not true...

•Can you beat 31,000?

•7 milliseconds!

•You are not the bank

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732490630457903716308

0446646.html

•Lust: Chasing Recent Performance

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732490630457903716308

0446646.html

•Lust: Chasing Recent Performance

•Pride: Being Overconfident

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732490630457903716308

0446646.html

•Lust: Chasing Recent Performance

•Pride: Being Overconfident

•Sloth: Overlooking Costs

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732490630457903716308

0446646.html

•Lust: Chasing Recent Performance

•Pride: Being Overconfident

•Sloth: Overlooking Costs

•Envy: Wanting to Join the Club

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732490630457903716308

0446646.html

•Wrath: Failing to Admit Failure

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732490630457903716308

0446646.html

•Wrath: Failing to Admit Failure

•Gluttony: Living for Today

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Avoiding mistakes

•Seven Deadly Sins of Investing• http://online.wsj.com/article/

SB10001424127887324906304579037163080446646.html

•Wrath: Failing to Admit Failure

•Gluttony: Living for Today

•Greed: Following the Herd

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Four “Rules”

•Save enough

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Four “Rules”

•Save enough

•Control expenses

•Management fees

•Trading costs

•Taxes

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Four “Rules”

•Save enough

•Control expenses

•Diversify

•Does this conflict with “control expenses?”

•The virtue of ETFs and Mutual Funds

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Four “Rules”

•Save enough

•Control expenses

•Diversify

•Reallocate