bs25999 certification apr 2008
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A 2008 presentation about the BS25999:2 certification process. Equally applicable to ISO22301.TRANSCRIPT
BS25999Certification and Value
Chris Green
Chairman, BCM/1
What is Certification All About?
• CONFIDENCE– Demonstrating that the organization has a
BCMS conforming to 25999:2– Providing CONFIDENCE to the organization’s
customers and other stakeholders that the BCMS is effective in achieving the desired outputs
Accreditation Body(Accredited 3rd party)
Confidence
BCM/1
Confidence
Confidence
ConfidenceConfidence
“Ladder” of confidence-promoting activities
(ISO/CASCO)ISO 17011ISO 17021-1ISO 17021-2ISO 17024
Confidence
Organization(Self-declaration)
Customers(2nd party)
Certification Body(3rd party)
IAF Recognition
Interpretations
How to Provide Confidence?
Focus on results– Did the organisation improve its resilience
and recoverability? (Customers can’t see the BCMS)• If YES, Confidence in certification
INCREASES• If NO, customers lose confidence in
certification, and BS25999 credibility suffers
Ongoing Confidence
Good Guys and Bad Guys
• “Quality” organizations– Use BS25999:2 as part of an overall
philosophy. 25999 is a management tool – Driven by top management leadership– Results focused
• “Minimalist” organizations– “What’s the minimum we have to do to get the
certificate??”– Driven by fear, and customer pressure– May try to “cut corners”
Stratification of Organisations
• “Quality” Consultants– Knowledgeable– Business focused– Offer several solutions– Value-adding
• “Minimalist consultants”– Superficial knowledge– Sell documentation packages– “This is how it has to be done”– Not value
Stratification of Consultants
• Intelligent– Purchase based on overall life cycle cost
– Give credit for good quality / performance
• Ignorant– Purchase only based on cheapest price
Stratification of Purchasers
“GOOD GUYS”
CERT BODY
“MINIMALIST”“BAD GUYS”
“QUALITY”
ORGANIZATION CUSTOMER
Permutations
• Certification of management systems is not like other forms of conformity assessment (calibration, laboratory measurements, inspection etc)
• “Black or white” versus “Shades of grey”
We Know It’s Not Simple
Better81%
Worse0%
About the same19%
Better68%
Worse2%
About the same30%
Better86%
Worse1%
About the same13%
Better94%
Worse0%
About the same6%
ISO 9001-certified suppliers compared to non-certified suppliers in terms of:
Intrinsic product quality Associated service level
Complaints handling Overall perception
Brazil’s Experience
To Summarise:
• CONFIDENCE– Good certification builds stakeholder
confidence– Poor certification will damage the integrity of:
• YouYou• The standardThe standard• BCM as a disciplineBCM as a discipline
Thanks for Your Interest