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www.cnettleman.net [email protected] WHAT MUST BE CONSIDERED IN STATE BOUNDARIES How the original boundaries were created When or how many times the boundaries were changed or defined What words were used in creating them Were they surveyed and described What authorities created them How are they defined today

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Since the major percentage of a surveyor’s work is the location, identification and retracing of boundaries described in deeds and other legal documents, this seminar is designed to provide the boundary surveyor with an understanding of the technical and legal responsibilities of locating land boundaries. The course will cover boundary creation, identification, and retracement of land boundaries.

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WHAT MUST BE CONSIDERED IN STATE BOUNDARIES

• How the original boundaries were created

• When or how many times the boundaries were changed or defined

• What words were used in creating them

• Were they surveyed and described

• What authorities created them

• How are they defined today

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MICRO BOUNDARIES

• Boundaries between individuals

• Boundaries between parcels

• Boundaries between lots

• Boundaries between estates of land

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THESE BOUNDARIES ARE FOUGHT

• In the air

• Under the sea, or…………..

• Wherever they are located

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JOHN LOVEGeodesia by John Love, 1658

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BOUNDARY PROBLEMSBETWEEN COUNTRIES

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NICARAGUA v. COSTA RICA

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CHINA AND JAPAN BATTLE IT OUT USING WATER HOSES

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WHAT TWO STATES HADTHE FIRST PROBLEM?

• New York

• South Carolina

• New Jersey

• North Carolina

• Connecticut

• Rhode Island

• Maryland

• Massachusetts

• Virginia and Delaware

• Pennsylvania

• Georgia

• New Hampshire

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THE REHOBOTH AGREEMENT

• Both states appointed boundary commissioners and gave them unlimited power to “run the boundary line” and AGREED ON A BOUNDARY

• But the Massachusetts legislature refused to ratify the agreement in 1848

• Then Massachusetts sued Rhode Island in the Supreme Court

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NEW JERSEY v. NEW YORK 523 U.S. 767 (1998)

LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHY NEW JERSEY WON

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THE SYMBOL OF AMERICA

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MICROFILM COPY OF ACCOMPANYING 1835 PLAT

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MISSOURI v. KENTUCKY78 U.S. 395 (1870)

“It seems that the old maps (those ex. Gr. Prior to A.D. 1800), indicative of the physics

and hydraulics of the Mississippi, are not greatly to be relied upon”

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MOVEMENTS OF THE RIVER

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BOUNDARY PROBLEMS

BETWEEN COUNTIES

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TARRANT COUNTY V. DENTON COUNTY139 S.W. 3D 22 (Texas 2004)