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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
Work in collaboration with:
Alejandro Corichi
Enrique Fernandez-Borja
Black hole
radiation spectrum
in
Loop Quantum Gravity
Jacobo Díaz-PoloDept. Astronomía y Astrofísica
Universidad de Valencia
Jacobo Díaz-PoloDept. Astronomía y Astrofísica
Universidad de Valencia
Loops ’07Morelia, June 2007
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CONTENTS
Introduction
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CONTENTS
Introduction
Black holes in Loop Quantum Gravity
Black hole entropy
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CONTENTS
Introduction
Black holes in Loop Quantum Gravity
Black hole entropy
Computational counting
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CONTENTS
Introduction
Black holes in Loop Quantum Gravity
Black hole entropy
Computational counting
Discretization
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CONTENTS
Introduction
Black holes in Loop Quantum Gravity
Black hole entropy
Computational counting
Discretization
Spectroscopy
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CONTENTS
Introduction
Black holes in Loop Quantum Gravity
Black hole entropy
Computational counting
Discretization
Spectroscopy
Conclusions
Future lines
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INTRODUCTION
Bekenstein-Mukhanov ’95 ⇒ Discrete equidistant spectrum on the basis of heuristical arguments
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INTRODUCTION
Bekenstein-Mukhanov ’95 ⇒ Discrete equidistant spectrum on the basis of heuristical arguments
Barreira, Carfora, Rovelli ’96 ⇒ Continuous spectrum within LQG
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INTRODUCTION
Bekenstein-Mukhanov ’95 ⇒ Discrete equidistant spectrum on the basis of heuristical arguments
Barreira, Carfora, Rovelli ’96 ⇒ Continuous spectrum within LQG
Krasnov ’99 ⇒ Discrete spectrum within LQG
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
INTRODUCTION
Bekenstein-Mukhanov ’95 ⇒ Discrete equidistant spectrum on the basis of heuristical arguments
Barreira, Carfora, Rovelli ’96 ⇒ Continuous spectrum within LQG
Krasnov ’99 ⇒ Discrete spectrum within LQG
Ansari ’06 ⇒ Continuous spectrum but with some discrete “brighter” lines
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
INTRODUCTION
Bekenstein-Mukhanov ’95 ⇒ Discrete equidistant spectrum on the basis of heuristical arguments
Barreira, Carfora, Rovelli ’96 ⇒ Continuous spectrum within LQG
Krasnov ’99 ⇒ Discrete spectrum within LQG
Ansari ’06 ⇒ Continuous spectrum but with some discrete “brighter” lines
Black hole radiation is still an open problem in LoopQuantum Gravity
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
INTRODUCTION
Bekenstein-Mukhanov ’95 ⇒ Discrete equidistant spectrum on the basis of heuristical arguments
Barreira, Carfora, Rovelli ’96 ⇒ Continuous spectrum within LQG
Krasnov ’99 ⇒ Discrete spectrum within LQG
Ansari ’06 ⇒ Continuous spectrum but with some discrete “brighter” lines
Black hole radiation is still an open problem in LoopQuantum Gravity
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BLACK HOLES IN LQG
Inner boundary introduced in the spacetime manifoldbefore quantization procedure (effective treatment)
Isolated horizon boundary conditions
Hilbert space splitting: Hv ⊗ Hs
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, A.Corichi, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLES IN LQG
Inner boundary introduced in the spacetime manifoldbefore quantization procedure (effective treatment)
Isolated horizon boundary conditions
Hilbert space splitting: Hv ⊗ Hs
Surface states: U(1) Chern-Simons theory over a punctured sphere
Spin network pierces the horizon at punctures
Punctures carry some quantum labels satisfying
(projection constraint)0=∑i
im
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, A.Corichi, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLES IN LQG
Inner boundary introduced before quantizationprocedure (effective treatment)
Isolated horizon boundary conditions
Hilbert space splitting: Hv ⊗ Hs
Surface states: U(1) Chern-Simons theory over a punctured sphere
Spin network pierces the horizon at punctures
Punctures carry some quantum labels satisfying
(projection0=∑i
im
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, A.Corichi, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLE ENTROPY
Entropy arises from the surface degrees of freedom
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLE ENTROPY
Entropy arises from the surface degrees of freedom
Question: How many different horizon states compatible with the horizon area and the boundary conditions are there?
Count all possible combinations of labels
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLE ENTROPY
Entropy arises from the surface degrees of freedom
Question: How many different horizon states compatible with the horizon area and the boundary conditions are there?
Count all possible combinations of labels
Pay attention to: -Distinguishability of punctures
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLE ENTROPY
Entropy arises from the surface degrees of freedom
Question: How many different horizon states compatible with the horizon area and the boundary conditions are there?
Count all possible combinations of labels
Pay attention to: -Distinguishability of punctures
-Quantum labels: two models ([Domagala, Lewandowski] and [Ghosh, Mitra])
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, K.Krasnov]
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BLACK HOLE ENTROPY
Entropy arises from the surface degrees of freedom
Question: How many different horizon states compatible with the horizon area and the boundary conditions are there?
Count all possible combinations of labels
Pay attention to: -Distinguishability of punctures
-Quantum labels: two models ([Domagala, Lewandowski] and [Ghosh, Mitra])
Result: up to γ.AAS ln21
41
−=
[A.Ashtekar, J.Baez, K.Krasnov]
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COMPUTATIONAL COUNTING
In order to make an exact counting we use an explicitenumeration algorithm
Computer generates all possible combinations of labelsand counts only those satisfying the requiredconditions
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Class. Quantum Grav. 24, 243 (2007)]
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COMPUTATIONAL COUNTING
In order to make an exact counting we use an explicitenumeration algorithm
Computer generates all possible combinations of labelsand counts only those satisfying the requiredconditions
Problem: Running time only allows a low area regime(few hundreds of Planck areas)
ABCK framework formulated for large area limit
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Class. Quantum Grav. 24, 243 (2007)]
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COMPUTATIONAL COUNTING
In order to make an exact counting we use an explicitenumeration algorithm
Computer generates all possible combinations of labelsand counts only those satisfying the requiredconditions
Problem: Running time only allows a low area regime(few hundreds of Planck areas)
ABCK framework formulated for large area limit
But linear dependence and logarithmic correction are obtained ⇒ some confidence
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Class. Quantum Grav. 24, 243 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
Surprising new behaviour of entropy as an areafunction: stair-like structure
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 181301 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
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A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 181301 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
Surprising new behaviour of entropy as an areafunction: stair-like structure
The width of the steps (∆A) is constant
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 181301 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
Surprising new behaviour of entropy as an areafunction: stair-like structure
The width of the steps (∆A) is constant
This behaviour is reproduced with both counting models
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 181301 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
Surprising new behaviour of entropy as an areafunction: stair-like structure
The width of the steps (∆A) is constant
This behaviour is reproduced with both counting models
Step width proportional to γ in each model
2PA lχγ=∆
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 181301 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
Surprising new behaviour of entropy as an areafunction: stair-like structure
The width of the steps (∆A) is constant
This behaviour is reproduced with both counting models
Step width proportional to γ in each model
Where this behaviour comes from?
2PA lχγ=∆
A.Corichi, E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 181301 (2007)]
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DISCRETIZATION
Structure of the horizon area eigenstate degeneracywhen introducing the “projection constraint”
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DISCRETIZATION
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DISCRETIZATION
Structure of the horizon area eigenstate degeneracywhen introducing the “projection constraint”
Structure with “bands” or peaks of degeneracy
Degeneracy at the peaks several orders of magnitudehigher than the rest of the spectrum
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DISCRETIZATION
Structure of the horizon area eigenstate degeneracywhen introducing the “projection constraint”
Structure with “bands” or peaks of degeneracy
Degeneracy at the peaks several orders of magnitudehigher than the rest of the spectrum
With this: - Explanation for the staircase
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DISCRETIZATION
Structure of the horizon area eigenstate degeneracywhen introducing the “projection constraint”
Structure with “bands” or peaks of degeneracy
Degeneracy at the peaks several orders of magnitudehigher than the rest of the spectrum
With this: - Explanation for the staircase
- Implications in spectroscopy
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DISCRETIZATION
Structure of the horizon area eigenstate degeneracywhen introducing the “projection constraint”
Structure with “bands” or peaks of degeneracy
Degeneracy at the peaks several orders of magnitudehigher than the rest of the spectrum
With this: - Explanation for the staircase
- Implications in spectroscopy
Consider all possible transitions regardless of theconcrete quantum configuration (unknown dynamics)
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DISCRETIZATION
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SPECTROSCOPY (“toy model”)
First approximation: consider only states at the peaks
Equidistant area spectrum with a gap 2PA lχγ=∆
E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [arXiv: 0706.1979 [gr-qc]]
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SPECTROSCOPY (“toy model”)
First approximation: consider only states at the peaks
Equidistant area spectrum with a gap
Fundamental frequency
2PA lχγ=∆
Mπγχω
320 =
E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [arXiv: 0706.1979 [gr-qc]]
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SPECTROSCOPY (“toy model”)
First approximation: consider only states at the peaks
Equidistant area spectrum with a gap
Fundamental frequency
Discrete spectrum: integer multiples of
2PA lχγ=∆
Mπγχω
320 =
0ω
E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [arXiv: 0706.1979 [gr-qc]]
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SPECTROSCOPY (“toy model”)
First approximation: consider only states at the peaks
Equidistant area spectrum with a gap
Fundamental frequency
Discrete spectrum: integer multiples of
Analogous to Bekenstein-Mukhanov picture
2PA lχγ=∆
Mπγχω
320 =
0ω
E.Fernandez-Borja, J.D. [arXiv: 0706.1979 [gr-qc]]
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SPECTROSCOPY
But some important qualitative differences if we takeinto account the structure of the bands:
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
SPECTROSCOPY
But some important qualitative differences if we takeinto account the structure of the bands:
- The spectrum is not discrete
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
SPECTROSCOPY
But some important qualitative differences if we takeinto account the structure of the bands:
- The spectrum is not discrete
- Statistically preferred frequencies
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
SPECTROSCOPY
But some important qualitative differences if we takeinto account the structure of the bands:
- The spectrum is not discrete
- Statistically preferred frequencies
- Equidistant “brighter” lines sticking out from a continuous background spectrum
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
SPECTROSCOPY
But some important qualitative differences if we takeinto account the structure of the bands:
- The spectrum is not discrete
- Statistically preferred frequencies
- Equidistant “brighter” lines sticking out from a continuous background spectrum
- The bands are not narrow ⇒ Broadening of the lines
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
CONCLUSIONS
We make an spectroscopical analysis at the kinematicallevel (we don’t know dynamics)
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
CONCLUSIONS
We make an spectroscopical analysis at the kinematicallevel (we don’t know dynamics)
Considering all possible transitions, IH introduce a quantum gravity imprint in the black hole radiationspectrum
Observable qualitative effects in the spectrum
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
CONCLUSIONS
We make an spectroscopical analysis at the kinematicallevel (we don’t know dynamics)
Considering all possible transitions, IH introduce a quantum gravity imprint in the black hole radiationspectrum
Observable qualitative effects in the spectrum
ω0 proportional to γ ⇒ hypothetical observational determination (GRB’s ???)
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
FUTURE LINES
Optimization of the algorithm in order to reach largerarea values
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
FUTURE LINES
Optimization of the algorithm in order to reach largerarea values
Analytical study of the degeneracy structure ⇒ Find the analytical value of χ ( 8 ln3 ??? )
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
FUTURE LINES
Optimization of the algorithm in order to reach largerarea values
Analytical study of the degeneracy structure ⇒ Find the analytical value of χ ( 8 ln3 ??? )
Complete detailed spectroscopical analysis ⇒ Thermal behaviour ???
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
FUTURE LINES
Optimization of the algorithm in order to reach largerarea values
Analytical study of the degeneracy structure ⇒ Find the analytical value of χ ( 8 ln3 ??? )
Complete detailed spectroscopical analysis ⇒ Thermal behaviour ???
Search for possible primordial black holes in GRB’s to test the model (In collaboration with the GACE (INTEGRAL) at the Universidad de Valencia)
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Black hole radiation spectrum in LQG Jacobo Díaz-Polo
FUTURE LINES
Optimization of the algorithm in order to reach largerarea values
Analytical study of the degeneracy structure ⇒ Find the analytical value of χ ( 8 ln3 ??? )
Complete detailed spectroscopical analysis ⇒ Thermal behaviour ???
Search for possible primordial black holes in GRB’s to test the model (In collaboration with the GACE (INTEGRAL) at the Universidad de Valencia)
THE END
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