audi a3 8p rns -e retrofit guide -...

Copyright Bryan Holmes ([email protected])

Audi A3 8p RNS-E Retrofit Guide

Detailed on this page are the parts required to fit the RNS-E to Audi A3 8P

The assumption is made that the current system is a single din system

EBay is the best and cheapest source for these units, Dealer price is £2,000+

Needs to have the rounded corners to fit the dash

Part Number:8P0 035 192

Audi Navigation DVD


Kufatec Parts Required to fit RNS-E

Cost of Parts € 150.00 Including Delivery

GPS Antenna

There a two options internal and external

I opted for a roof mount to give the factory look

GPS Antenna Fakra Cable

Extends the Roof Mount Antenna wires to the front of the car (Optional)


RNS-E Radio Adaptor

Adapter to convert the factory head unit to the RNS-E

RNS-E Antenna Adapter

Adapter to convert the factory head unit antenna to the RNS-E

Also enables you to fit the diversity Antenna


Audi Dealer Parts Required to fit RNS-E

Cost of Parts £150.00 Always ask for discount

Blanking Switch 8P0 941 515 C 5PR

Airbag deactivation lamp 8P0 919 234 A 5PR

ESP Switch 8P0 927 134 C 5PR


Hazard button 8P0 941 509 A

Centre Trim Panel 8P0 863 321 C 6PS

Storage Tray 8P0 941 561 E 5PR


Double Din Enclosure 8P0 858 005 A

Bracket front console Bezel 8P0 864 348 (Not Required if replacing ashtray with storage tray)


Front console Bezel 8P0 864 147 A (Not Required if replacing ashtray with storage tray)

Lower Climate Control Trim 8P0 864 138 A

(If you don't have the interior light pack, You can add lighting if you wish)

Ash Tray removal Storage tray 8P0 863 301 (Optional)


4 Radio Extraction Keys 4D0 051 530


RNS-E Installation Instructions and Photo's

A couple words of warning to begin with, if you are paranoid on minor scratches on your interior, please don't do this. Most likely you will end up with one or a few if you’re not careful Likewise, if you are afraid of applying force when pulling parts

out, please don't do this. Some of the parts are fitted quite tightly, and need a certain amount of force to unplug

Do this and follow my instructions at your own risk

I attached protective covering to everything around the install to stop any damage

First thing to do is remove the standard head unit, insert the keys and pull out, disconnect all cables.


Once removed the trim round the buttons pulls off easily

Next remove all the buttons and cup holder, unclip and unplug cables

The holder for the switches is used in the new din cage


Next step is to remove the Climate control unit, give it a tug at both sides and it will release you are then left with the empty cage

Lift up the gear stick surround, Remove the grab handles from both sides, 3 bolts each side, One Allen and 2 8mm bolts


Pull out the storage area trim from behind ashtray, you can replace the ashtray with a shelf for added space if required. This also allows the use of the ashtray

illumination wire to be used in the upper storage tray

Remove glove box & side panel to gain access to left Din cage bolts, 7x 8mm bolts to remove glove box, Deactivate passenger airbag before removal.


Remove trim under steering column to gain access to right din cage bolts, 3x 8mm Bolts to remove trim, unclip at the top

You are now ready to remove the single din cage from the dash, 6 T25 screws and 2x 8mm bolts to remove


I found removing the bracket below on the passenger side helped when removing the din cage 2x 8mm bolts

Now this bit is not easy as the din cage was never meant to come out this way. I found twisting it too the right then down helped. It’s very tight and needs a fair

amount of force. Take a bit of time at it and it will come out eventually, you will be left with an empty hole


Installing the double din cage is just as difficult, but with some patients it will go in, once in put all the screws and bolts back in but don't tighten just yet

Next I put all the new switches and storage tray in then put the trim panel on. Connect illumination cable to storage tray if ashtray is being removed (Optional)


Don't connect the cables to the RNS-E just yet, carefully slide the unit in till it locks into place

Check the gaps around the trim and RNS-E are equal and tighten all the visible screw's, Remove the RNS-E and tighten the two screws behind it then connect

cables and refit, If you have a diversity antenna it needs connecting to the antenna adapter in the spare hole.


If you choose to fit the storage tray in place of the ashtray you need to fit it now before the grab handles are refitted, It will look like this

At this point refit the grab handles but don't tighten the screw's up, you will need some movement in the handles to refit the Climate Control unit


The next stage depends on weather you have purchased a double din climate control unit or modified your existing one. I modified mine as I didn't like the

£450.00 price tag for a double din version

First I made a template of the existing unit then cut it down to fit the gap

I then marked out the size on the unit over the protective masking tape using the template , so it was ready to cut


I used a dermal with the flexible shaft to cut the majority of the plastic away. Cutting tool, sanding tool then some fine sandpaper and block to smooth off

Using the masking tape stops and scratches on the front of the unit.


You need to take some time doing this, and keep trying it in the car until it fits properly


After a final fitment check, connect the cables and refit the climate control. Tighten the grab handles up and refit the glove box and steering column trims


External Shark Fin GPS/GSM Antenna

You will need to run an extension cable from the RNS-E to the rear of the car

Drill a hole in the roof ! Do this at your own risk

Fakra Extension Cable

GPS/GSM/Diversity Antenna 8P0 035 503 L


Start By Marking the location of the hole on the roof, from the rear to center hole I drilled was 5 inches and left gutter to center was 20 inches (Approx)

I protected the roof to stop it getting scratched by bits of metal

Remove the interior trim which gives you enough room to get at the location


Feed the fakra extension cable through ready to plug in

Again I used flexible plastic to get the cable through the headlining

After a final measure and alignment check drill the hole to the correct size.

I painted the bare metal with rust guard and touchup paint


Check antenna fits correctly and bolt into place

Once secured connect the cable and refit the trim.

If you just want to fit the standard GPS antenna, plug into RNS-E and site on top of dash board.


It should now look something like this, hopefully with no damage and everything working as normal.

It took me 6 hours from start to finish,

Some coding may need to be done to the unit to get it to function correctly in the car, by setting up the unit and the CAN BUS.


Retrofit of Bluetooth Kit to RNS-E

Detailed on this page are the parts required to fit the Bluetooth Phone support to RNS-E to Audi A3 8P

Bluetooth Module: 8P0 862 335 C or 8P0 862 335 D

MIC: 8Z0 862 373


Antenna: 8P0 035 503 E

Cable:


Firstly remove the trim to place the microphone

Remove the door seal to give access to headlining to run microphone cable


I used some flexible plastic to push the wire through the headlining


Next fit the microphone to the headlining trim and refit

Remove the glove box to run the cables to the Bluetooth module and RNS-E

Deactivate passenger airbag before removal otherwise you will end up with an Airbag fault light on the dash


Remove the kick panel trim and sill trim to run the cable to Bluetooth Module


Run the cable under the carpet and up through the access panel under the seat

Again I used the flexible plastic to feed the cable through


Clamp the cable down in the existing cable clamp and replace the cover

Fit the module to the carpet with Velcro or original mounting kit


Cable tie the new cable in ready to connect to RNS-E

Again cover up the trim to protect against scratches and remove the RNS-E


Connect the 7 wires as follows to the RNS-E Quadlock Connector

Connector C

Pin 6 Tel NF in -

Pin 12 Tel NF in +

Connector D

Pin 9 Can High

Pin 10 Can Low

Pin 11 Tel Mute

Pin 12 KI 31 GND

Pin 15 KI 30 +12v

Some coding may need to be done to the unit to get it to function correctly in the car

Total fitting time two hours


Navigation Coding

STG 17 (Instrument cluster) -> Adaptation -> Function 10 -> Channel 62 +01 - Radio +02 - Telefon +04 - Navigation or 5 +08 - Telematics STG 56 (Navigation System) -> Coding -> Function 07 My Coding 0207111 0?xxxxx: Model 1 - Audi A2 2 - Audi A3 (8P) 3 - Audi A4 (> 2004) 4 - Audi A4 Cabriolet (> 2004) 5 - Audi A6 (< 2004) 6 - Audi TT (> 2004) 0x?xxxx: Diagnostics 0 - activ 1 - inactiv 0xx?xxx: Sound characteristics 0 - linear 1 - Audi A4 (> 2004) 2 - Audi A6 (< 2004) 3 - Audi A4 Cabriolet (> 2004) 4 - Audi TT (> 2004) 5 - Audi A3 (8P) 9 - Bose Soundsystem 0xxx?xx: Telephone/telematics 1 - no telephone (supply voltage for microphone actively) 2 - Mobile phone preparation (Temic - Speisesp. Microphone inactively) 3 - Mobile phone preparation (Cullmann - Speisesp. Microphone inactively) 4 - Mobile phone preparation (Nokia - Speisesp. Microphone inactively) 5 - Telematics Europe (supply voltage microphone inactively) 6 - Telematics US (supply voltage microphone inactively) 7 - Base plate diagnostic capable with comfort control 0xxxx?x: Options I 1 - default 2 - Digital-Radio 3 - Satelite -Radio 4 - Satelite - and Digital-Radio 0xxxxx?: Options II 1 - default 2 - TV-Tuner 3 - CD-Changer 4 - TV-Tuner and CD-Changer 5 - Multifunction Steering Wheel 6 - TV-Tuner and Multifunction Steering Wheel 7 - CD-Changer and Multifunction Steering Wheel 8 - TV-Tuner, CD-Changer und Multifunction Steering Wheel


STG 56 -> Adaptation -> Function 10 -> Channel 001 (Tires) 1930 for 255/45/R17 See http://de.openobd.org/audi/rns.htm#reifen -> Channel 002 (GALA) 0 - Self calibration 43 - Audi A3 (8P) 45 - Audi A4 (> 2004) -> Channel 002 (TV in motion) 0 - off 1 - up to 5 km/h -> Channel 003 (Language) 0 - German 1 - English (UK only) 2 - French 3 - Italian 5 - Spanish 7 - English (USA only) -> Channel 007 (Settings) 15 +01 - Distance in miles +02 - Speed in mph +04 - time in am/pm +08 - Date in MM:TT:JJJJ +16 - Repeat voice commands -> Channel 008 (GALA) 000 - GALA off 001 - Charakteristics 1 002 - Charakteristics 2 003 - Charakteristics 3 004 - Charakteristics 4 005 - Charakteristics 5 255 - GALA via microphone (Bose AudioPilot ?) -> Channel 010 (Region) 0 - Northern hemisphere 1 - Southern hemisphere -> Channel 136 (Voice commands) 00005 - LHD (USA) 00013 - RHD (USA) 02632 - RHD (Europe) 03226 - LHD (Europe)


BlueTooth Codeing

My Coding 10322 # 77 (Phone) Coding - Function 07 HU = Head Unit (i.e. RNS-D/E) MFL = Multifunction Steeringwheel ?xxxx: type (car) 0 - with CAN-bus (A2, A3, TT) 1 - D3/C6 High-System 2 - C6 Standard-System x?xxx: type (Steeringwheel) 0 - non multifunction steering wheel 1 - standard steering wheel 2 - modular steering wheel xx?xx: installed components 1 - none 2 - MFL 3 - HU 4 - MFL and HU 5 - K-line 6 - MFK and K-line 7 - HU and K-line 8 - MFL, HU and K-line xxx?x: language for voice control 0 - voice control off 1 - German 2 - English (UK) 3 - French 4 - Italian 5 - Spanish 7 - English (US) 8 - Voice control from external device (i.e. RNS-E) xxxx?: Language for DIS 0 - no DIS display 1 - German 2 - English (UK) 3 - French 4 - Italian 5 - Spanish 7 - English (US)


#77 Adaptation 10 -> Channel 128 (Base Volume) 000 - 0dB (no increase/decrease) 001 - +1dB increase 003 - +3dB increase 006 - +6dB increase 128 - -1dB decrease 130 - -3dB decrease 133 - -6dB decrease -> Channel 129 time after ignition off 000 - 30 Sekunden 001 - 5 Minuten 002 - 10 Minuten 240 - 20 Stunden -> Channel 131 (Microphone Sensitivity) 000 - 0dB (no increase/decrease) 001 - +1dB increase 002 - +2dB increase 003 - +3dB increase 004 - +4dB increase 005 - +5dB increase 006 - +6dB increase 128 - -1dB decrease 129 - -2dB decrease 130 - -3dB decrease 131 - -4dB decrease 132 - -5dB decrease 133 - -6dB decrease

-> Channel 133 ( )

activate/deactivate. -> Channel 134 (handsfree)

0 - handsfree over 1 - handsfree only with mobile in cradle

-> Channel 135 ( -PassKey) default: 1234

These codes are based on Fitting RNS-E to a UK spec A3 Sportback 2.0 TDI Sport with retrofit Bluetooth, Maybe different depending on what option fitted to your car.

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