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8/7/2019 Attention Bill O'Reilly - About Those Birth Announcements - The Rest of the Story - by Butterdezillion

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About Those Birth AnnouncementsIn a recent on-air debate with Donald Trump, Bill OReilly claimed that Barack Obamas Hawaii birth wasproven by birth announcements for Obama in the 1961 Hawaii newspapers. But new evidence shows that theoriginal stories about how the online announcement images surfaced were not true. Where they really camefrom and who lied about where they came from and why are questions that OReilly might want to researchhimself, because if the announcements that are on the microfilms now had been in the microfilms at the timethe online images surfaced there would have been no need to lie about where they had come from.

The Advertiser Images Are All Identical*In July of 2008 some online images surfaced claiming to be birth announcements for Barack Obama, from theAug 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser. Lori Starfelt (at Texas Darlin Blog) and Whatreallyhappened.com (WRH)both published images that they claim were acquired independently from different locations. (Claims can beseenhere) However, the following comparison of those images shows that is highly unlikely, if not impossible(you be the judge).

Lori Starfeltsimage. Linkedto on July 23, 2008 WRHimage,postedon Oct 29, 2008.

Claimed to be from Hawaii State Library microfilm Claimed to be from someone at the Advertiser office

Compare (zoom in as necessary by increasing the % on the PDF taskbar):1. The right and bottom borders
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2. The dotted line directly above Obamas announcement (blue arrow added for emphasis).3. The scratch directly below the Asing announcement (blue arrow added for emphasis).

* (Note that the part that extended into the left-hand margin is missing from the WRH image. That is theonly difference between the 2 images besides the red arrow that was added)

Starfelt Image (enlarged) WhatReallyHappened image (enlarged)

(Red arrow was added by WRH)

4. The scratch in the left margin extending into the lower Luau ad.(blue arrows for emphasis) (Notethat the line is longer on the WRH image. Thats because the Starfelt image was cropped when itwas posted online. Look at the full image and see that the line under Sunday Advertiser is alsocropped.)

Starfelt Image (enlarged) WRH Image (enlarged)

5. The blurring of lowest line of print in second-left column (blue circles for emphasis).

Starfelt image (enlarged) WRH image (enlarged)

Each microfilm roll would have unique scratches from usage, and different copies from that microfilm will haveunique placement within the viewing frame and blurriness/focus. These appear to be the same image, eventhough one was claimed to be from the Advertiser office and the other claimed to be from the microfilmof the Hawaii State Library.


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The Star-Bulletin Images Are All IdenticalSometime after the Advertiser images appeared, two anonymous posters each claimed they had gone into theHawaii State Library and made copies from the microfilm of the Aug 14, 1961 Star-Bulletin Koa at TexasDarlin Blog, and a poster at Prius Chat Forum. In addition, Whatreallyhappened.com posted an imagereceived from somebody at the Advertiser office.

Koasimage, linked at post 5066here: Prius Chat postersimage, postedhere:Claimedto be from the Hawaii State Library microfilm Claimed to be from the Hawaii State Library microfilm

Below: WRHimage, claimed to be from someone at Advertiser office

Again, you can enlarge these by increasing the % view onthe PDF file, to see the entire context. Circles added foremphasis.

(All images are taken from their original place of posting orwhere they are specifically referenced, as documentedhere. For clarity the images have been saved in a higher-resolution PNG format. The same comparisons can be

made from full-page images on a PDF documenting thesource of the imageshere.)

Notice on these full-page images:

1. The exact same edges on all sides, even though thisis an enlargement and thus harder to make identical.

2. The exact same scratches.
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Also compare the circled areas:

3. The exact same hair in the viewer in dead center

Koas image Prius Chat image WRH image

4.

5. The exact same arrow drawn on the image.

Koas image Prius Chat image WRH image

6. The exact same waviness of the scan edge on left and right edges:

Again, these appear to be the same image, even though the top 2 claimed to be 2 people makingindependent copies at the Hawaii State Library, and the bottom was from somebody at the Advertiseroffice.


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Where did these images come from?

We seem to have just one image of the Star-Bulletin and one image of the Honolulu Advertiser. Did theseimages come from the Hawaii State Library as the bloggers claimed, the Advertiser office as WRH claimed, orsomeplace else?

In March of 2010 bloggerLadysforestsent a friend to Hawaii and had him make copies from the microfilms atthe Hawaii State Library. (Disclaimer: What Ive posted here are genuine scans of genuine 2nd-generationcopies made from the HSL microfilm. Scratches that dont act like scratches when magnified are anotherstory altogether, and one that will hopefully be told eventually.)

First lets compare the Advertiser images :

Online Advertiser images (StarfeltandWRH) Genuine Hawaii State Library microfilm copy

The genuine copy on the right is not just a darker copy. Magnify the image to see the number of scratches andhow the scratches extend all the way into the left margin rather than neatly starting exactly at the left-mostcolumn of print.
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Below are enlargements of the blue areas. Notice that even though the genuine copy has many morescratches, the scratch all the way through Beat the Heat the major scratch from the earlier Starfelt copy is missing in the genuine copy made in March of 2010.

WRH/Starfelt Image:

Genuine Image:

The Starfelt image could not have come from the same Hawaii State Library microfilm as was in the HSL inMarch of 2010 because a prominent scratch disappeared from the microfilm.

In addition, when one researcher asked the Hawaii State Librarian for a copy in late April, 2010 she received

this response (emphasis mine):

"As for your request for the Aug. 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser birth announcement page, I looked it up,but unfortunately, the microfilm is so worn downon top of being poorly microfilmed, that it is hardlylegible. You might be better off asking another library that has a better, less used copy than ours. Ordoes it have to be the Advertiser? I checked the Star-Bulletin and that date and that film is fine. Let meknow."

If the Aug 13 page was old and poorly microfilmed in April of 2010 then it had been poorly microfilmed all along if it was the same microfilm. But the online images show no signs of poor microfilming (streaks, blotches,blurriness, etc) Starfelts image did not come from the poorly-filmed microfilms the librarian described.

It seems impossible, then, that the online Advertiser images came from the Hawaii State Library. Where, then,did Lori Starfelt get her pristine image from, and why was it claimed to be from the Hawaii State Library? Thatis an important question.


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What about the Star-Bulletin image? Here is the online image, followed by the genuine copy made 20months later:

Online image (Koa, Prius Chat poster, WRH): Full-page copy from the Hawaii State Library

The red-circled area is the part that was included in the online images.

Notice that this copy also lost its prominent scratches over 20 months time, if the 2 anonymous postersactually made their copies from the Hawaii State Librarys microfilm as they claimed.

The blue-circled area shows some of the 26 extra announcements the Star-Bulletin had, that the Advertiser

didnt. (See enlargement below). We were told the lists for the 2 papers were identical and that this proved thatthe lists had to be from the Vital Records Office. In reality, the lists were only identical in the images becausethe Star-Bulletin list was cropped to make it appear that way. If identical lists proved the announcements werefrom the Vital Records Office, would non-identical lists prove they were NOT from the Vital Records Office?)


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So then, it also seems impossible that the online Star-Bulletin image came from the Hawaii State Librarymicrofilm.

This brings up a multitude of questions the most important of which are these: Where DID those imagescome from, and why were they falsely claimed to be from the Hawaii State Library?

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