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ASME Al 7. 3INTERPRETATIONS NO. 6January 2003 through Ja nuary 2005

INTRODUCTIONAs a service to persons who use the A17.3 Code for

enforcement or as a guide, the A17 Committee rendersinterpretations of the requirements upon request. ThePreface to the Code explains the procedure forrequesting interpretations.

This booklet includes the interpretations that wereissued by the A17 Committee from January 2003 throughJanuary 2005. Subsequent interp retations will beincluded with each addenda and new edition of theCode.

APPLICABILITY OF INTERPRETATIONSEach interpretation applies to the edition and supple-ments listed for that inquiry. Many of the Rules on whichthe interpretations have been made have been revisedin later editions or supplements. Where such revisionshave been made, the inte rpretations may no longer beapplicable to the revised requirement.

ASME procedures provide for reconsideration of theseinterpretations when or if a dditional information isavailable which might affect any interpretat ion. Further,persons aggrieved by any interpretation may appeal tothe cognizant ASME committee or subcommittee. ASME

does not "approve," "certify," "rate," or "endorse" anyitem, construction, proprietary device, or activity.

FORM AND ARRANGEMENTInquiry Number. The interpretations are listed in the

order of the ass igned serial numbers. The first two digitsrepresent the year in which the interpretations werereceived.Subject. The primary Rule and subject of the interpre -tation is listed for each inquiry.Edition. For each interpretation, the edi tion andaddenda, if any, on which the interpretation was ren-dered are listed.

Question. The questions are taken verbatim from theoriginal inquiries except for editorial corrections neces-sary to improve clarity.Answer. The answers are those approved by the A17Committee, except for editorial corrections necessary toimprove clarity.Figures. Where the original inquiry included a planor drawing that was essential for the understanding ofthe interpretation, a figure has been included.Approval Dates. The date of approval by the A17 Com-mittee is listed for each interpretation.

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02-38, 04-14 A17 .3 INTERPRETATIONS NO. 6

Inquiry: 02-38Subject: Restricted Opening of Hoistway Doors and/ or Car Doors on Passenger ElevatorsEdit ion: Paragraph 2.7.4 of A17.3-1996

Question: Would door restrictors be required on an existing two-stop hydraulic passengerelevator equipped with front and rear, manually operated, horizontal sliding scissor gates, bothof which can be opened at any point in the hoistway?

Answer: Yes.A17 Committee Approval: January 8,2003

Inquiry: 04-14Subject: Part 8 General Requirements, ScopeEdit ion: ASME A17.1-2000 including A17.la-2002

Question (1): Does this part require retroactive system upgrades for elevators installed ormodernized before the date of the standard publication if no work other than regular maintenanceprocedures are performed? Example: 8.6.5.8 safety bulkhead requirements for below-groundcylinders with no evidence of unexplained oil loss or other voluntary upgrading instal led priorto 1971 would require unjustified renewal of cylinders or system alterations using a car safetydevice.

Answer (1): Yes. See requirement 8.6.1.1.3.Question (2): If the response is "yes," what is the purpose of A17.3-2002 para. 4.3.3(a)?Answer (2): A17.3 is a stand-alone code. See General in the Preface of A17.3.A17 Standards Committee Approval: January 27,2005

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No. 5June 1996 through December 2001

INTRODUCTIONAs a service to persons who use the A17.3 Code for

enforcement or as a guide, the A17 Committee rendersinterpretations of the requirements upon request. ThePreface to the Code explains the procedure forrequesting interpretations.

This booklet includes the interpretations that wereissued by the A17 Committee from June 1996 throughDecember 2001. Subsequent interpretations will beincluded with each addenda and new edition of theCode.

APPLICABILITY OF INTERPRETATIONSEach interpretation applies to the edition and supple-

ments listed for that inquiry. Many of the Rules on whichthe interpretations have been made have been revisedin later editions or supplements. Where such revisionshave been made, the interpretations may no longer beapplicable to the revised requirement.

ASME procedures provide for reconsideration of theseinterpretations when or if additional information isavailable which might affect any interpretation. Further,persons aggrieved by any interpretation may appeal tothe cognizant ASME committee or subcommittee. ASME

does not "approve," "certify," "rate," or "endorse" anyitem, construction, proprietary device, or activity.

FORM AND ARRANGEMENTInquiry Number. The interpretations are listed in the

order of the assigned serial numbers. The first two digitsrepresent the year in which the interpretations werereceived.Subject. The primary Rule and subject of the interpre-tation is listed for each inquiry.Edition. For each interpretation, the edition andaddenda, if any, on which the interpretation was ren-dered are listed.Question. The questions are taken verbatim from theoriginal inquiries except for editorial corrections neces-sary to improve clarity.Answer. The answers are those approved by the A17Committee, except for editorial corrections necessary toimprove clarity.Figures. Where the original inquiry included a planor drawing that was essential for the understanding ofthe interpretation, a figure has been included.ApprovaI Dates. The date of approval by the A17 Com-mittee is listed for each interpretation.

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9&25,99-lla ACME A17.3 Interpretations No. 5

Inquiry: 98-25Subject: Paragraph 3.7.5

Signs on Freight ElevatorsEdition: A17.3-1993Question: (1) In ACME A17.3-1993, para. 3.7.5 does the definition of the words the operator refer

to a venue designated employee (an experienced professional elevator operator), or justanyone that they (the management or their staff) permit to use the elevator, regardlessof that persons experience or qualifications to run he elevator, even if it was the firsttime that person tried to operate the manual elevator and without any assistance orfamiliarity of how to operate it?

Note: I know how to operate a telephone, but I may need to call the operator atthe telephone company to be connected to another party.

Just as the telephone operator can connect one person to another, would it not alsofollow that the operator of a manual elevator should be someone hired by the owner ormanagement of the venue to get persons connected up and down the different floors ina building safely?

(2) In the same rule, do the words freight handlers refer to experienced freighthandlers who routinely load and unload freight for a living, or does it refer to anyone,even inexperienced, to say, roll an empty service cart into the elevator in order to use itto facilitate getting their equipment loaded into the elevator for a one-time only job?

Answer: The terms operator andfreight handler are not defined in A17.3. See also Inquiry 84-94.A17 Committee Approval June 23, 1999

Inquiry: 99-llaSubject: Section 1.5

Alterations, Maintenance, Inspections, and TestsEdition: ACME A17.3-1996Question: If an existing elevator, in an existing Group C1 (Business) multistory building, where

the primary occupancy or use is the transaction of administrative and civic service, whichis currently not equipped with ADA compliant features, is upgraded as follows:

(a) New hall-mounted illuminated call buttons.(b) New hall or car-mounted illuminated car directional arrows with audible signals.(c) New raised and Braille floor designation signage at hall elevator door openings(d) New infrared door protection and reopening device.(e) New car-mounted operating panel with illuminated call buttons, raised Braille( f ) New hands-free emergency phone with voice communication and illuminated(g) New battery powered emergency car lighting and alarm bell.Is this upgraded elevator now required to comply with ACME A17.1, Safety Code for

at each floor.

floor designations, and audible signals.signaling.

Elevators and Escalators?Answer: Any alterations to the equipment must comply with the applicable requirements of A17.1,

Part XII.A17 Committee Approval June 23,1999

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ASME A17.3 Interpretations No. 5 99-35, 99-37, 00-03

Inquiry: 99-35Subject: Paragraph 3.11.3, Firefighters ServiceEdition: ASME A17.3-1996Question: There are many double-button low rise, low speed elevators currently in service. Double-button operations appear to be described under control, operation subparagraph oper-

ation, continuous-pressure in A17.3-1996, Section 1.4. The majority of these elevatorsare equipped with hoistway gates or manual freight doors.

How is this type of elevator to be treated when Firefighters Service is installed? Theexisting control system would not permit the car to be returned automatically to eitherthe designated or alternate landings.

Answer: It shall meet the requirements in A17.3-1996, Appendix C, Rule 211.4.A17 Committee Approval: January 12,2000

Inquiry: 99-37Subject: Rule 1200.1

AlterationsEdition: ASME A17.1-1996Question: Does Rule 1200.1 require the elevator or escalator when altered to meet A17.3 or just

the equipment that is altered?Answer: When an alteration s made, the elevator or escalator must conform to A17.3 in its entirety.A17 Committee Approval: September 15,1999

Inquiry: 00-03Subject: Section 2.2.4

VentilationEdition: A17.3-1993 including A17.3a-1994Questions: Does the use of exhaust air from the toilet and janitor closets of a building being vented

through the elevator room to temper that space meet the intent of this rule on existingelevator machine rooms?

Answer: This is outside the Scope of the A17.3 Code.A17 Committee Approval: April 5,2000



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00-27, 01-11 ASME A17.3 interpretations No. 5

Inquiry: 00-27Subject: Paragraph 5.3.9

Reversal Stop DeviceEdition: ASME A17.3-1993Question: Does an escalator have to be equipped with a specific reversal stop device if it has amissing step device, handrail motion device and safety brake detector device?Answer: Paragraph 5.3.9 is a performance requirement for sensing the reversal of escalator steps.The paragraph does not specify how this performance requirement should be met. If

the performance requirement in para. 5.3.9 is fulfilled by other devices installed on theescalator, a separate reversal stop device is not required to be installed.

A17 Committee Approval: June 27,2001

Inquiry: 01-11Subject: Rule 102.2(c) (A17.1), Sprinkler Piping and Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistway

Paragraph 2.1.4 (A17.3), Pipes Containing Gases, Vapors, or LiquidsEdition: A17.1-1996 including A17.ld-2000

A17.3-1996 including A17.3a-2000Question: Rule 102.2(c) of A17.1, provides the specific requirements for sprinkler protection being

installed in hoistways and machine rooms associated with the elevator. Five stipulationsare underneath this section, none of which require an isolation valve on the sprinklersystem for the specific sprinklers located in the hoistway or machine room.

Paragraph 2.1.4(c) of A17.3, lists three stipulations associated with sprinklers in thehoistways, one of the three stipulations is an isolation valve provided in an accessiblelocation outside of hoistway.It appears that an isolation valve will not be required on a new installation; however,upon the first inspection would be required to have one. Was the isolation valve require-ment removed from A17.1 in error or was it failed to be removed from A17.3?

Answer: The isolation valve requirement was intentionally removed from A17.1, but inadvertentlywas not removed from A17.3, para. 2.1.4(~)(3).

A17 Committee Approval: June 27,2001



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ACME A17.3 InterpretationsNo. 5

Inquiry: 01-15Subject: Restricted Opening of Hoistway Doors and/or Car Doors on Passenger ElevatorsEdition: Rule 111.5 of A17.1-1996 including A17.ld-2000

Requirement 2.12.5 of A17.1-2000Paragraph 2.7.4 of A17.3-1996 including A17.3a-2000

Question: Above rule, requirement, and paragraph require door restrictions on passenger elevators.Are restrictors required on all passenger elevators regardless of the type of operation oronly on automatic operation elevators?

Answer: The requirement applies to all passenger elevators.A17 Committee Approval: June 27,2001

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INTERPRETATIONSNo. 4

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INTERPRETATIONSN o. 4

June 1995 through May 1996

INTRODUCTIONAs a service to persons who use the A17.3 Codefor enforcement or as a guide, the A17 Committeerenders interpretations of the requirements upon re-quest. The Preface to the Code explains the procedure

for requesting interpretations.This booklet includes the interpretations whichwere issued by the A17 Committee from June 1995through May 1996. Subsequent interpretations willbe included with each addenda and new edition ofthe Code.

APPLICABILITY OF INTERPRETATIONSEach interpretation applies to the edition and sup-plements listed for that inquiry. Many of the Ruleson which the interpretations have been made havebeen revised i n later editions or supplements. Wheresuch revisions have been made, the interpretationsmay no longer be appl icable to the revised re-quirement.ASME procedures provide for reconsideration ofthese interpretations when or if additional informa-tion is available which m igh t affect any interpretation.Further, persons aggrieved by any interpretation ma y

appeal to the cognizant ASME committee or subcom-mittee. ACME does not "approve," "certify," "rate,"or "endorse" any item, construction, proprietary de-vice, or activity.

FORM AND ARRANGEMENTInquiry Number. The interpretations are listed inthe order of the assigned serial numbers. The firsttwo digits represent the year in which the interpreta-tions were received.Subject. The prima ry Rule and subject o f the inter-pretation is listed for each inquiry.Edition. For each interpretation, the edition andaddenda, if any, on which the interpretation wasrendered are listed.Question. The questions are taken verbatim fromthe original inquiries except for editorial correctionsnecessary to improve clarity.Answer. The answers are those approved by theA17 Committee, except for editorial corrections nec-essary to improve clarity.Figures. Where the original inquiry included a planor drawing which was essential for the unders tandingof the interpretation, a figure has been included.Approval Dates. The date of approval by the A17Committee is listed for each interpretation.

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S T D - A S M E AL7.3 I N T NO Y-ENGL L 9 9 b m 0 7 5 9 b 7 0 0 5 7 8 4 4 2 2 2 T mInterpretations No. 4 96-07

Inquiry: 96-07Subject: Section 3.1

Buffers and BumpersEdition: A 17.3- 1986Question: A17.3-1996, Section 3.1, Buffers and Bumpers reads as fol lows:

Car and counterweight buffers or bumpers shall be provided. Solid bumpers may beused in lieu of buffers:(a) Where the rated speed is 50 Wmin or less; or(b) Where type C safeties are used.

(1 ) Are bumpers allowed to be used with cable elevators with any type of safety(2)Are bumpers only allowed to be used with type C safeties for roped elevators(3) Are solid bumpers only allowed on hydraulic elevators? Please clarify.

as long as the speed of the elevator is 50 ft/min or less?as stated in ASME A17.la-1988, Rule Z O I ?

Answer: (1) Yes.(2)No.(3) Refer to A17.3, Section 4.2 for requirements on hydraulic elevators.

A17 Committee Approval: April I O , 1996




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93-68Paragraph 3.1 1.3Firefighters' ServiceA l7.3-1 990 including A l7.3b-1992

(1) If an alteration does not require compliance with A17.1, Rule 211.3, does theelevator(s1have to be provided with "Firefighters' Service" as per A17.3, para. 3.11.31

(2) If the elevatods) has a travel of less than 25 ft, as listed in Appendix C is"Firefighters' Service" reguired?(3) Does ASME A17.3, para. 3.13.3 require compliance weitti the latest edition ofA17.1, or that listed in Appendix C?

(1) Yes.(2) No.(3) ASME A17.3, para. 3.13.3 requires compliance with Appendix C, unless compli-ance with a later edition of A17.1 was required at the time of installation or alteration.

Committee Approval: December 14, 1994




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91-30A17.1, Rule 110.3; A17.3, Paras. 2.6.1 and 2.6.2Closing of Hoistway Door

n: A17.1-1990 and A17.3-1990(1) Paragraph 2.6.1 (A17.3) prohibits handles or knobs on the hoistway side of the

hoistway doors for automatic elevators. Rule 110.6 allows handles and other devicesfor opening manually operated hoistway doors. Since automatic elevators can havemanually operated hoistway doors, there appears to be a conflict between A17.1 andA17.3. Does the Committee agree? Please explain if not.

(2) Rule 110.3(a) and para. 2.6.2 require that horizontally sliding hoistway doors ofautomatic elevators must be closed automatically if the car leaves the landing f o rany reason. Does this prohibit manually sliding hoistway doors? If not, how can thisrequirement be met?(3) Rule 110.3(b) requires horizontally sliding doors to be closed when a car is ata landing except if three conditions are met. The first condition (operated by adesignated operator in th e car) conflicts with the third condition (actively dispatchedby an automatic system which controls the doors). Should this Rule have an "or"instead of an 'and" between the second and third conditions? Please explain whatis meant by 'actively dispatching" an elevator that is at a landing. This requirementalso conflicts with Rule 211.3a(l).

(4) Paragraph 2.7.3 does not define an access landing. A17.1 only defines an accesslanding in Rule 111.9. Please clarify.: (1) There is no conflict. The requirements in A17.1, Rule 110.13c(3) are identicalto the second paragraph of A17.3, para. 2.6.l(a). The intent of A17.3 is that thisprovision applies to swing doors.(2) Manually sliding hoistway doors are permitted. They must be provided with aclosing device meeting the requirements of A17.1, Rule 110.3a or A17.3, para. 2.6.2.(3) A review of previous publications indicates that this requirement was first

published in A17.ld-1970, with the word 'and" between the second and thirdconditions. The intent is that any one of the conditions triggers conformance withthe requirement.The term "actively dispatched" was clarified in Inquiry 86-22. Rule 211.3a(l) takespreference when firefighters' service is activated.(4) The access landing is the landing one would use for ingress and egress to thehoistway.

: September 22, 1993

93-67ct: Paragraph 1.1.2tw)

Equipment Not Covered by A17.3

Is a powered sidewalk elevator, installed prior to the first edition of ASME A17.1,covered under the scope of this edition of ASME A17.3 considering the number ofimpractical requirements for sidewalk elevators in this edition and th e implementationof a section on powered sidewalk elevators in A17.3-1993.Sidewalk elevators were not covered in A17.3 unti l the 1993 edition.




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Committee Approval: March 16, 1994




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A17.3 Foreword, Preface, and Para. 3.11.3Firefighter's Service

(1) What events or conditions made the need for a 'nationally recognized codefor existing elevators" become evident as stated in the last paragraph of the Foreword?(2) In regard to the Preface "Date of Application" section, was it the intent of theCommittee to have representatives of the listed groups participate with local jurisdic-tional authorities in a pre-adoption review of the Code and come to an agreementas to specifically what sections of the Code are appropriate f o r local inclusion andwhat time frame should be allowed for implementation?

(3) Is it the intent of para. 3.11.3 to require all existing elevators to be retrofittedto comply with the A17.1-1987 Phase I and Phase II Firefighters' Service requirementseven if these elevators currently meet the Firefighters' Service requirements of A17.1-19817

(1) The rationale for this statement reflects the consensus of the individuals in thecategories of interest who approved the wording through ASME committee andsupervisory board actions and by public review.(2 ) That is the recommendation of the Committee.(3) Yes.November 14, 1990

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