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What can a startup do in Asia? How are the big Internet guys faring? And what is Asia anyway? Presentation given at Geeknrolla in London on March 2011.

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@benjaminjoffe  |  Geeknrolla  |  London,  March  2011  

Startup  Guy  

Asian  Eye  

for  

the  

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1984  

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2010  1984  

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Karate  Kid!  

1984  

•  Los  Angeles  

•  Japanese  master  

•  Mysterious  

2010  

•  Beijing  (jobless  in  Detroit)  

•  Chinese  master  (karate?)  

•  Bilingual  talented  (Chinese)  kids  

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HELLO! MY NAME IS

@benjaminjoffe

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“Mister  Asia”                  –  Mike    Butcher  

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CEO,  Plus  Eight  Star  www.plus8star.com  

Best  pracQces  from  Asia’s  digital  space  

Research,  Strategy  &  “InnovaQon  Arbitrage”  

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Co-­‐Founder,  Mobile  Monday  Beijing  (38  events,  130  speakers,  3,000  parQcipants)  

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•  Speaker    100+  talks  in  17  countries  

•  Advisor  

•  Investor  in  Asia-­‐based  global  companies  

Angel  Investor,  Advisor,  Keynote  Speaker  

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4  years   1  year   5  years  

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#HowAsianAreYou?  

42%  

33%  

8%  

8%  

4%  2%   2%  

Chinese  

Japanese  

Korean  

French  

American  

German  

Singaporean  

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Bacon  

1.   Our  #1  Problem  

2.   What  is  Asia  

3.   Local  Leaders  

4.   Foreign  Players  

5.   Local  InnovaMon  

6.   Where  is  the  bacon  for  my  startup?  

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Our  #1  Problem?  

PreconcepMons  

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The World According to the West!

Asia  The West  Orkut?  

Revolutions  Offline  

West (sort of)  

The Russians  

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Common  AssumpQon  #1  

Everything  from  USA  is  great

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Common  AssumpQon  #2  

Everything  from  Asia  is  weird

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Common  AssumpQon  #2  

Everything  from  Asia  is  weird (and  someQmes  funny)

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Biggest  Issue  with  Asia:  

Illiteracy  

Foreigners  can’t  read  a  word!  

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Western  Framing  

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Which  Movie  is  This?  

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Kimba  the  White  Lion  (Japan,  1965)  

The  Lion  King  (USA,  1994)  

“Even  our  lawyers  are  not  that  good”  –  a  Disney  animator  (rumor)  

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Where  is  it  from?  

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Origins  

KraMng  Daeng  (“Red  Water  Buffalo”)  

Thailand,  ~1970  

Lipovitan  Japan,  1962  

Red  Bull  Austria,  1987  

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Which  Game  is  This?  

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FarmVille  Copied  from  China  

1.  Five  Minutes  (China)  

2.  Slashkey  (US)  

3.  Zynga  (US)  

4.  Playfish  (UK),  etc.  

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Who  Came  First  

•  Harvest  Moon  (1996)  – Super  NES,  by  Victor  InteracQve  –  Inspired  Happy  Farm  

•  Where  is  the  innovaMon?  – Not  in  the  game  concept,  but  in  viral  &  social  mechanics  

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2.  What  is  Asia?  

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“Pick  up  your  jacket!”  

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What  is  Asia?  

•  Obvious:      Cultures  &  Languages  

•  Less  obvious:    Separate  Ecosystems  – Size,  GDP/capita,  infra,  capital  access,  etc.  

•  Beyond:        Parallel  Universes  – Past,  present,  future,  different  

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Users  

0  

500  

1,000  

1,500  

2,000  

PopulaQon   Internet  Users   Mobile  Users   3G  Users  

USA   Japan   South  Korea   China  

Sources:  CIA  World  Fact  Book,  MIIT,  Japan  TCA,  SKT,  March  2011  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  Unit:  million  

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Users  

Country  USA   China   Japan   South  Korea  

PopulaMon   310  mln   1,330  mln   130  mln   50  mln  

Internet  Users   245  mln   460  mln   100  mln   40  mln  

Mobile  Users   295  mln   860  mln   120  mln   50  mln  

3G  Users   120  mln   50  mln   115  mln   30  mln  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

Sources:  CIA  World  Fact  Book,  MIIT,  Japan  TCA,  SKT,  March  2011.  Numbers  Rounded  for  easier  comparisons  

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Networks  3G

 Users  (%

)  

China  

0%

20%

40%

60%

80%

100%

0% 20% 40% 60% 80%

3G:  60%  (W-­‐CDMA  only)  Web:  72%  Avg.  14  Mbps  

3G:  98%  Web:  60%  Avg.  8.5  Mbps  

3G:  40%  Web:  34%  Avg.  5.0  Mbps  

3G:  5%  Web:  0.5%  Avg.  1.0  Mbps  

Sources:  Akamai  4Q10,  Japan  TCA,  SKT,  ITU,  IDA,  Internet  World  Stats,  March  2011  

Internet  ConnecMons  Measured  >5  Mbps  (%)  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

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Japan  &  Korea  have  the  Fastest  Internet  in  the  World  

15  

10  

61  

13  

1  

North  America  

Europe  

Japan  

South  Korea  

Hong  Kong  

16  

13   Japan  

South  Korea  

Top  100  Fastest  Internet  CiQes   CiQes  Measured  >10  Mbps  

Source:  Akamai  4Q10  

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3.  Local  Leaders  

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Sites  Ranking  

Rank   USA   China   Japan   Korea   UK  

1   Google   Baidu   Yahoo  JP   Naver   Google  UK  

2   Facebook   QQ   Google  JP   Daum   Google  

3   Yahoo   Sina   FC2   Nate   Facebook  

4   YouTube   Taobao   YouTube   Cyworld   YouTube  

5   Amazon   Google  HK   Google   G  Market*   BBC  

6   Wikipedia   Netease   Ameblo   AucMon*   Yahoo  

7   Twiver   Google   Livedoor   Chosun   eBay  UK  

8   Blogger   Sohu   Rakuten   11th  Street   Windows  Live  

9   eBay   SoSo   Wikipedia   Yahoo  KR   Wikipedia  

10   Craigslist   Youku   Goo   Joins  MSN   Twiver  

Sources:  Alexa.com,  March  2011,  Rankey.com  (Korea)  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

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Social  Networks  

•  China  –  QQ          650M  –  Q  Zone        490M  –  QQ  Microblog    110M  –  RenRen        95M  –  Sina  Microblog    70M  –  Kaixin001      40M  –  51.com        40M  

•  Japan  –  Mobage  (mobile)    25M  –  GREE  (mobile)    25M  –  Mixi  (web+mobile)  25M  

       

•  Korea  –  Cyworld      20M  

•  SE  Asia  –  Mig33  (mobile)  40M  

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Local  Leaders  

•  China  •  Taobao  (#1  E-­‐commerce)  •  Tencent  (#1  IM,  Games,  $3B  sales)  •  11  game  companies  market-­‐listed  •  Sohu  (#2  portal),  Sina  (#1  +“Twiver”)  •  Baidu  (#1  search)  •  DangDang  (“Amazon”),  listed  •  Youku  (listed),  Tudou  (“YouTubes”)  •  RenRen,  Kaixin001  (“Facebooks”)  

•  Korea  •  Naver  (#1  search  +  portal  +  Q&A)  •  Daum  (#2  portal)  •  Nexon    (Online  games,  $1B  sales)  •  Hangame  (Online  games)  •  NC  Sox  (Online  games)  •  Cyworld  (#1  SNS)  •  Nate  (#1  IM)  

•  Japan  –  Web  guys  

•  Sojbank  (Yahoo,  Apple,  Broadband)  •  Rakuten  (#1  e-­‐commerce)  •  Mixi  (SNS)  •  CyberAgent  (ad  net,  games,  blogs..)  •  Nico-­‐Nico  Video  (“YouTube”)  •  M3  (doctor  SNS,  $100M)  •  Cookpad  (recipe  portal)  

–  Mobile  guys  •  DeNA  (mobile  SNS,  $1.3B  sales)  •  Gree  (mobile  SNS,  $600M  sales)  •  CA  Mobile  (mobile  ads)  •  Zappallas  (mobile  zodiac,  $100M)  •  Xavel  (mobile  shopping+fashion)  

Free-­‐to-­‐Play  Games  

Free-­‐to-­‐Play  Games  

Mobile  SNS  &  Commerce  

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Beware!  

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Global  Shopping  

– DeNA  (Japan)  buys  ngmoco:)          $400M  

– Tencent  (China)  buys  Riot  Games      $400M  

– Rakuten  buys  PriceMinister  &  Buy.com    $250M  each  

– Gree  (Japan)  has  $250M  in  the  bank  

This  is  just  the  beginning!  

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4.  Foreign  Players  

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Foreign  Companies  in  Asia  Who  got  Tiger  Blood?  

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Group  A:  The  Valley  Darlings  

China   Japan   Korea  

Google   FAIL   BI-­‐WIN   FAIL  

Facebook   FAIL   (fail)   (win)  

Twiler   FAIL   BI-­‐WIN  (JV  with  Digital  Garage)  

WIN  

Zynga   (win)  (M&A  for  dev.)  

(win)  (M&A)  

-­‐  

Groupon   (fail)  (but  hiring  150  staff)  

(win)   (fail)  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

Grades:  BI-­‐FAIL  |  FAIL  |  (fail)  |  (win)  |  WIN  |  BI-­‐WIN  

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Group  B:  The  Old  Guard  

China   Japan   Korea  

eBay   BI-­‐FAIL  (buy  leader  then  fail)  

FAIL   WIN  (M&As)  

Amazon   FAIL   WIN   FAIL  

YouTube     FAIL   (win)   (win)  

Yahoo!   BI-­‐WIN  (Alibaba  investment)  

BI-­‐WIN  (JV  with  Soxbank)  

FAIL  

Blizzard   (win)  (license)  

-­‐   BI-­‐WIN  (cult)  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

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Group  C:  The  Dark  Horses  

China   Japan   Korea  

Skype   FAIL   FAIL   FAIL  

LinkedIn   (fail)   (fail)   (fail)  

Evernote   -­‐   BI-­‐WIN  (deals  with  PCs,  Telcos)  

-­‐  

Tumblr   -­‐   (win)   -­‐  

MIH  (Naspers)   BI-­‐WIN  (Tencent  investment)  

-­‐   -­‐  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

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Group  D:  The  Mobile  Guys  

China   Japan   Korea  

Apple   (win)   (win)   (win)  

Android   BI-­‐WIN  (supported  by  telco)  

BI-­‐WIN  (supported  by  telco)  

BI-­‐WIN  (supported  by  telco)  

Nokia   BI-­‐FAIL  (lead  then  dropped)  

FAIL  (never  grew)  

FAIL  (never  grew)  

App  Developers   Not  many  foreign   Varied   Varied  

+8*  |  www.plus8star.com  

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Signs  of  True  GlobalizaQon  

•  NOT  Charlie  Sheen  

•  Tom  Cruise  on  Sina  Weibo  (local  Twiver)  

•  Rakuten’s  CEO  (Japan)  tweets  in  English  •  Company  official  language  in  transiQon  to  English  

•  Who  tweets  in  Chinese  or  Japanese  in  the  West?  •  First  step:  MyGengo  :-­‐)  ?  

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Summary  

•  China:  No  company  won  a  direct  confrontaQon  

•  Japan:  More  open,  quality  &  persistence  pay  off  

•  Korea:  Advanced  models…  acquisiQons?  

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5.  Local  InnovaMons  

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Mobile  Social  Gaming  

Self-­‐published  +  Open  pla~orms  

           Some  ads  

SNS  +  

Free  games  +  

Virtual  goods  Homepage  

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The  QuesQon  is…  

NOT  “who  will  be  the  Facebook  of  XXX”  

But  rather  

“Who  will  be  the  Tencent  of…”  

Indonesia  (#2  FB  populaQon),  India,  Vietnam,  

Philippines,  Thailand,  Russia,  Brazil,…  

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Korea  surfing  Apple’s  Success  

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Shanzhai  InnovaQon:  Mass  customizaQon  

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InnovaQon  Awareness  Test  

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PHOTO:  MOBILE  PHONE,  BEIJING,  APRIL  2010  ©  Benjamin  Joffe  /  Plus  Eight  Star  Ltd.  

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PHOTO:  MOBILE  PHONE,  BEIJING,  APRIL  2010  ©  Benjamin  Joffe  /  Plus  Eight  Star  Ltd.  

Hardware  InnovaMon:  “Shanzhai”  (山寨)  

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PHOTO:  MOBILE  PHONE,  BEIJING,  APRIL  2010  ©  Benjamin  Joffe  /  Plus  Eight  Star  Ltd.  

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QQ  Farm  

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Design  Your  Own  Mobile!  

•  Design  teams  <  10  people  

•  Factories  take  orders  from  5,000  units  

•  Cost  <  50  EUR  

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“Shanzhai”  Spirit?  

•  Cheap  •  Fun  •  Flashy  •  Fast  

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5.  Where  is  the  bacon?  

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Three  Main  Paths  

Learn   Build   Compete  

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Learn  

•  China:  Entertainment,  post-­‐piracy  models  

•  Korea:  New  service  concepts  

•  Japan:  Mobile  +  alternaQve  models  

Digital  goods:  $14B  in  Asia  already!  (USA=$2B?)  

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Build  

•  China:  Compare,  leverage  (app  bouQques…)  

•  Korea:  Case-­‐specific  

•  Japan:  For  local  market  

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Compete  

•  China:  Ultra-­‐compeQQve  

•  Korea:  Size  limited  

•  Japan:  Yeah!  

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•  Great  infra  •  Everyone  has  a  smartphone  •  Broadband  +  NaQonwide  free  WiFi  •  MulQ-­‐cultural,  access  to  SE  Asia,  India,  Middle-­‐East,  etc.  

•  Ecosystem  growing  fast  •  Barcamp,  Founder  InsQtute,  Startup  Weekend,  etc.  •  Early  stage  funds,  Angels,  …  

•  Some  cool  companies  •  Mig33    Mobile  SNS,  40M+  users  in  emerging  markets  •  Viki    Crowdsourced  video  subQtling  community  •  Foound  Group  communicaQon  service  •  Eduardo  Co-­‐Founder  of  FB  (worth  $3B+)  lives  there  

Special  Case:  Singapore  (“the  red  dot”)  

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Conclusion  

1.  “There  is  no  Asia”  

2.  Learn  from  proven  successes  

3.  Enter  markets  cauMously  

4.   InnovaMon  is  everywhere!  

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Made  from  China  the  Cmune  Case  

•  Snapshot:    –  www.facebook.com/uberstrike    –  First  FPS  on  Facebook  –  Made  in  Beijing  

•  Leverage  –  Best  pracQces  of  Asia’s  free-­‐to-­‐play  –  Best  distribuQon  (Facebook,  App  Stores,  Web)  

•  Result  –  Organic  growth  –  High  spending  /  user  –  Largest  3D  social  game  (>500,000  MAU)  

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The  Sky  is  the  Limit!  

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