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What is it like to be a bat?What is it like to be a bat?

Arthur Franz

Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies

http://fias.uni-frankfurt.de

FIAS, 2008-4-4

Thomas Nagel (1974)Thomas Nagel (1974)

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Main topic: the mind-body problem

Can be hope that reductionism can ever be successful in this case?

Terminology, Synonyms:

• reductionism / physicalism / materialism

• Consciousness / subjective experience / phenomenological features

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Examples:

• Sound is a wave

• Heat is the motion of particles

• Mental states are states of the body? (physicalism)

• Mental events are physical events? (physicalism)

Nagel: the problem of consciousness is unique.

Why?

Reductionism and its Reductionism and its analogiesanalogies

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What does it mean that an organism has conscious experience?

Nagel: there is something it is like to be that organism.

An organism has conscious mental states if and only if there is something like to be that organism for that orgasm.

= subjective character of experience

„„something it is like to be“something it is like to be“

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All previous attempts of reduction do not capture subjective experience for they are all logically compatible with its absence.

If physicalism wants to survive it has to capture subjective experience.

Implication for a reductionImplication for a reduction

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Assumption: we all believe that bats have experience.

There is something it is like to be a bat.

But can we know what it is like to be a bat for a bat?

We could imagine what it would be like for us to be a bat. But for a bat?

Imagination fails. Gradual transformation fails.

Any extrapolation from our own case must fail.

The subjective experience of a bat is inaccessible to us!

What is it like to be a bat?What is it like to be a bat?

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No.

If true, a Martian would also be led to the conclusion that our subjective experience doesn't exist.

Which is obviously false.

We are able to recognize the existence of facts that are inaccessible to humans.

What have we gained?

Inaccessible => non-Inaccessible => non-existent?existent?

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Facts about subjective experience embody a particular point of view.

Point of view not only accessible to a single individual.

One can adopt a point of view from someone sufficiently similar to oneself.

Points of viewPoints of view

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Nagel‘s argument:

If the facts of experience are accessible only from the point of view of an organism then they can not be explained by the physical operation of that organism.

Because physics is a domain of objective facts par excellence.

Where reduction fails (1)Where reduction fails (1)

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The objective nature of things is observable from a specific point of view but external to it.

Examples: understanding lightning, sound, rainbow,...

Objectivity: a direction in which understanding can travel. A travel away from a individual/species-specific point of view.

About objectivityAbout objectivity

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Reduction is characterized by reducing our dependance on our species-specific point of view.

The less dependent we are on our point of view, the more objective is our description.

During reduction we leave our species-specific point of view.

Examples: sound, heat

Reduction and objectivityReduction and objectivity

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The point of view is the essence of subjective experience.

And not only a point of view on it.

Any reduction would force us to abandon the point of view towards greater objectivity and therefore also the essence of the phenomenon.

subjective experience   -------------------> objectivity

point of view  ------------------->

                                             reduction

Where reduction fails (2)Where reduction fails (2)

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Mistake to conclude that physicalism is false.

Rather: physicalism is a position we cannot understand.

Nagel's speculative proposal: building an objective phenomenology?

ConclusionsConclusions

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Thank you!Thank you!