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- t! Art of Advocacy ow . .... ·s Of'" fA l' H''1T N ESSES' John E. Dur st, J r. and Fr ed Ou e lle r ..,.." I •• ,,, ) 1;" .. ... U"'" "'

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Part of the Art of Advocacy series, Cross-Examination of Lay Witnesses was published in 1987, written by John E. Durst, Jr. It contains transcripts of cross-examinations by many of the legends of the Trial Lawyers, such as Jacob Fuchsberg, Harry Lipsig, Harry Gair, John Durst, and many others, along with the law of cross-examination, and commentary on the techniques of the attorneys.

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the sl.:md , t1idn't yu u? COMMENT: Judge Fuchsbe,1!. opens his t'O!.S el amination by point' lng t)U1 th~t the wit n ~$s tu tifi eu a fter bei ng p[ep~,e~ to do s~ by the~Pl>QSinl!. auc ,nc ~ .

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4.'1Q,

I b,:& fllU' p:Jrdoll~ ,\ , I r~ad 1 ' (C!' llIe w;tn H~ originally led the jUly 10 belielfe C lie

did not recall l.Ceing the lawyeo' before . A.y~

Q. A.Q.

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'1'011 Illun u..-{n IC Thllnyirl\l he "may h~"c' 'r>OkGn wilh ~~ in"C5tigal ()r. TIIO wjln. , ~ m~y b~ lie"e h C avoW committing Itlm!iClt un(le< IIi1tll. An aUa,ney a n "rOSS".., ,:In act lhat he amlMlion cannot ne rmit ~ witn ess 10 cQ uivl)Ca le . Th e T 1.. ls comjlllllfl:In Itlc law}'Ct "lid ~ "ul he, i n,~t i!l'l'o' ot ),,'r; is lhat ""hal y()U mean?

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Q.A.

No .. I. t'~ Si11inC with ether fe' tlOurs arid nol merlt igrliMg tile case in itself so d~"1,)8C$ ttlC witness' crcdibi lil~ lila! tll ~ e,on G . miner 1~IllJirl1H1SC. YOllr C)"\.'lo, like the ~)es of 11111 peo ple, l'QY can sec '(l nl. di,t anc~ :tcr~" th e ",dth in fro m o f you , rir,II!'!ri~JI1 .

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Q. You wer~ ~urpri! ~d "'l1 en you hC:lrd the tllll ml"! !>IK. S.. x I " 'ill obj~>Cl 10 l ~ . form of Ilk: qu~~ lon. "" T",: COl!kT : Nt n n ~n ~"'er thl l.Q. A. Q.

We re YO II ~urpri! .d when ~ml h~ard the lil "n'l'? No, I d o.. 'bi .. ~ I wa\ " " 1'ri5r...,.. I e~po;''''ro hinr. I expected him t" hit the hu til e "'ay he WJ ! ru,mips. r sec. You d id,,'\ Sl": him di'" you~~I

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4.09 Wilh cl rnl< ;ng Quest;',n 10 A"oi d f;Xplnna1innCOMM EN T: H."e Jutlge Fuchshe,c 1I5ked QU C'l.lion which lnadv(". ICfltll aceo"led Ihe wilneu ~n oPP DrtUn1ty 10 give an e.planaticn . Judge ~LJ c ll .tle,c 5'oPrICd the wilnen. ar>d \'Ih.n lil a ju dea 'uled [hewilnes~

could e'pI;IlfI his

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,\\ lh~ ' ti m~ ~ou d idn' , 'l:C him conw.. r;sJll inlo ,hc f,om o r Ihe hUI: you didn', "'e him come right ill1r emphasi~, as part of Ilis next question, counsel re peats an answer which places the witness in a bad liglt\. He sueeesis

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tllat the witnC$$ hOld$ back tile trutll ulltil forced to admit il. Hc ,haws that the witnC$$ tC$tificd at tllC depositioll incorrcctl~, and lea"e~ it to the jury to dctermine tile moti"cs.

Q.

[sec. Whcn I told you (hc puli,'c onicer had il. you said il. Remember in April, 1956. when you (c~tilied, two year. ago, at tbal lime your memOI)' wa~ b~l1er :l~ to what hap pened al the time or the accident than ;1 i, now, 1'1'0 :Uld a hair years bier.

A. Q. A. Q.

The same Ihing. The ,arne thing? The same thing.Well, do }'OU remem!.>cr being -and gi"ing Ihi, amwe"ask~d Ihi~ qlle~lion-Page

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Wa, Ihe,o a bu< ahead or your bus'!:-''(lU ~sk me if I am folklwill& a bu< Icn o r fifteen [(ct. I a m [ollowing ;1. OUI if ~ bll~ j~ ~bo ll' a hll.lCk :t.....,}" fro m me, J 3111 nOI whal ~'ou would ( all follo....;nl: h im. I a nI nOI Ihal tlrn;c to hin,. I ~m folh;,,,,i ng him: I all' a br"~k Or more aW;lr rrom h im.

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I bw yo u !ini s.!lc-d Ih e sp'--ak ing7

COMMENT: JlJ(lt~ FY~)'~ bCfg does ~o\ p~ n i" ely ~cc epj HI/! .. ilncss e. I!I. Il3\iun. There i~ an apportu",ry 10 "fe"l/! an " i. 01 SU'lf1ic:ioo ])Vel I~e e~p' arJalion. II th o I. WY~f acoepts tI, e e,p~'nal ion. tllo jury wi" 100. n .."er~e. IIII! actvor.al/! wilt conlinue 10 deny the feasonabk!n/!S$ 01 tho "~p!an ~\;on, A.

rr.a,', "". )'t'~, I ~m jU ~1 !livinG you 10 n ndcn.tanll .....)Int .....e

mean by 200 reel. Tllli COt:!n: ,\1) right. yo u have answe red the question.COMM ENT: JIJ(lJ:l! F\Id1'1It1: "'01(13: " I)m t right? JU S\ yc! or no . \ . I h ln: il. )'('\;. a lle r the la....'yer-I ,,"a m', th c lawY"r_ lh cf" you. "W~S th erc a bu. ~ Iw~d of rom bU~'!M Qnd ~our ~n~",er ,..as. - ;-,10-; h c j u;\ d illn'l r"~"e it Ihat wa)'. He ashd ),ou a :!-"ond qu .~lio n:u~kcd lI.~ mcll\bc(

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W !l ore i~ he now?

),IH.. 5\:: will oh~ct to that . T 11~ Cno;M Sll'lt~incd. r: Q.I~

immaterial.

he in Ih" roo m n(),,1 a mo moul. TUI: COUMT~ obj ectio n has b.:enMR. 5 ", '011 ....,ou ld C~PI a 1 of .:Il ndr,," i~ ""~"'-T. Go righl aru,:u!.

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1"11 accept that. ,\. [Iut I did spend a week with them hefmc Ihis had happened, TII[ COIiRT: When before, tlmt's what counsel )l.1R. REICH: He said, }'our Ilonor,,\U&llst and September. How many limes docs he have to sa)' AUF,ust and S~plcmbcr. A. Jml before they llappcned to separate. aka)'. TII[ COl:Rl': All right, the nC.~t quc~lion is, lhe)' gavc up thc ~p~r1mcnt when. counsel? Till: WITN~SS: The}' didn't give up Ihe ap:trtmcnt. They were scpar~ted. The}' werc split. Wlien tllal ~parlmcm was,,'l gi\'cn up, they didn't just walk alit of there. T1II: COURT: Your lie,! recollection. )'OU spent a week sometime in August or Septcmber. T1II: WlT' li me_

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And ~5 I r~call , ~lr , Mart in, ynu unu I had met nn IWO plio. occ3~ io n l. one when ynu, 1~ l timon )' W:' I laken on Malch oj of 19 .. and when )'011 ....ere I\!P'~'CIlI..'d 3t Ihm li lTl.;;;;)

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A.

D~"""'mbe, 2.19 .. , IIr.1d ky W pe,furm;ng wor~ III 911 ).b ~han A\"~nue 011 the Ii fll1 3S nou r Ih e,,"Ofas ~ f,... ult uf ~n n~r"\~nle ll! d illed ~by 6. 19.. OO11.n B"dl(.~ 3ml Ill!!nl jr:ale the dr>ctJmomts . anll iay t"" IC!lJru:lalion 1 th eir 0f ad mi$,iO I' in ~ _id enC ft.

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M M QH ru.c~ : r ..... in ~ Il ror Ih eir produ C . lion . I ju sl w3nt )'o u 1 ~n ow 1I,al I IUhp,, [. o r III ~ J gr ~ . mcm bet ween \h~ DiJ I Telephone Com p~oy :t no! Ja mes II r~dle)' & S"" Pl: n3 inin& ! .... hio ""IIf k 3\ . his loc~tioll . MM. R' "'[Mn : Yom li onllr. cuut\wl rl ~' been Tl"" 'idod .. i lh ;J. COpy :llld r h.we no IIbjcc!ioo I.... ro(lnwl u, ing .h ~ \"Ufl)'. Ctlun-

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What

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li U lhe C1>ntain.rs,Q. An d how o!'ten/- -., .

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contai ners,

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1 bel; your JlJ,don'!

Ilo w onen was the debri s c1~l\noo w lhe p13ce WO\Ild be nlud'l id duri ng :..J,,'embcr or 1'1,. , J a m If}'; n~ I" I)in il UoW" wilh a liltle nJ Oi'C ' Decificily, TH E C"':KI , lie 111" )' :!n""er. M~, Qc[uu: I d O"" h~" e 1h. a n,,,'.'. C""III " '" ha~e illlf Hmit' 1:1I~1.' 1II11/11I/",i/'lfiO'T Remark.!

conce rns n colli sion b~twccn n c;lr ~lId it bus at a major Tite ~lI1omobile in quellion hatl o"cnnkcll a t:I~i prior 10 Cn!~rinllthe inlcrscClion, ... here it co llided wilh the bll S, Thi.intcrs~c l ion,

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Mr, Mill e. ,cpr~!j

Ihm Ihe bU IIrke' I

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fasi. h ... :lflet' ~pc;tk; n& .... ith lh,

:lllorOltj-S. cMnged hi. I ~Mimonf at tr 10 C" a~c coun JCr~ cru "-""mioatiOn , Mr. ~lillCT dem on "' ~ R'l. . .." .

em! lethn iqu cs for kccI,ing a wil neu "'ith;n Ihe narTC'" bo unds of the crCIS c~omin3!ion. J Ie Jiso rC"c nls the u~ of em" cnmil\~llon [0 co ml1nm icatt i ndirccII~' lC th e jury Ih~t a W;IOO%;S ",'a5i>'. :l nd di.honest. In fact. it ultimatel)' il[l!lCarcd n~ if Ihe witn ess W(t~ U}'ing In SCI n job wilh l),e bus tomIl-1")' by assi~tins their mIOrn~)'.

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,"-,,\ , Oh. I'd say I fa!.! . Q.Di1 mO'le!. f'o m )'Ou vlIl/en' [ JyIl>Ir 10 "you e'llm ~led ''cI,t, whiell nrc tw~ en [i,ely di ffolent 'lUe$lioltS. One I n..... er !.houk! natll/~ lly follow the ath. IN, 101 the ""11tC'S 10 bf P"-lI'Cr. do...s tbat refresh ~'oUl remlketion now 1 h~1 you 10101 Io(llTW"body :I t !.oITW" ti lll': in your li f~ tlml Ihe Muslang ""~ ~ going ~be O~nffil 'S J\teln")' on d;'~1 e~am;. Mlion of the wit ness.

Q. Ohy. No\\". just lis"m 10you ar,rce wilhm~

m~ qUu. "a. j,'Oi'l~ wr)' l\1.: fl~\."~

.... ,,

16 -~

HiJI5

.t.

No.

thal'~

not tmc,

Q. h w;uII'lllo;ng thro ughA. {Continui ng) No, it is not true,COMMENT: In \ni ~ sQrt of ' yes it l~" "00 it i!rl 't" type QI debale , Ihe r>resu mpl lGn of hon",. ty " I 1M 6islll'l!te~lcd willie" will usua!/), ouy the d~y. Ttu,l'i, it i$ necc>S.lty to dc~tfQY tha t I',esuml'tl~n immedi~t c , Iy, a. toun'l"l did, Once coun $cl has accGmpli,lIed Ihvt ,... k ,he jury may yery .-reI1 ,"Ink, " PI~; nlil l's counsel Wa'i righ t in till! lim two pOinls, h,,', I"ob:lbly t;ghl now ,'

Q. h 'nal from yourthinldn aA.yc~.

n:~OllcCli o n

of your IC~linHInY , }'onr

~bo ut

\,,"0 yea,s?I~a\

Q, Did you c\'~r tdl arlyhody ,\. No, r ne,cr did.Q,

the 1m, ,,-:IS

goi n~

'c'y raM?

You n.:vcr di d'l~o, SM"~I~nl

... .

A.

16,115 1',lor Incon,li len! Wrlmn~Ia tc m .n\ ,

COMMENT: The s tage is ~el fo' Ihe im ptlbth m...,t try " 1"'1 w,illon 01" Nelle tim dMmatl.3minalKln,

obo/,,,,,,

..' ...

By repeaHnj! his ~ u~IiDnS, touII!>el ls intem"!: thaI he is gnoing the a n $(!1 U~ th~ wilnes.s 10 es.1~blish Ih~ I ~cls. In SO doin!: he also IC'SIS the wit ll e~s ' ~nQwled gc . ob:.c.-ation skills anelmen1Qf'P .

.. ,

'

Q. WillA.

)'011 " ttclll Ihe fat l lhal Ihe poli ecl1l~1'I has "ircad)' I\I:cn ben: and S1Iiuur wril' ''!;? "I Yes.

Tead Ihis , Iale melll"'!

'\.Q.

And. is Ihat )o\lr "U.I' ."? YC'i. it it.And Ihc~ i nit (~11 Illl I h~ r;ide here. Ih"..., nrc "II )-,"IN,~rcn't

tlic),'/

A.Q,

Yc~.

As you loo~ al tlli , [)Icc~ "I' ~apcr. Ihi~ is tile ~tatemcn l that ! was ,e(errin g tD- "'n~ it the n ne that you were ro(crrirr~ to'!"~"""

,\. YC'i.

16_1;

1I0.Il7

Q.

,\.

O ka)'. :-10..... over your sign atUfe o. wC wi ll (':111 !'OU f in ;.i~ b. -a"cr )'Our in il l ~ I' . :t nd Ihat', - U.P.", Ullyses Poo\~, d o )ou :Igrcc tll:l.1 !'ou ,In\OO_ 1'\0. I did nol stJw an)'thiul;.

.

Q. A. Q.

Did M>tll~bOOy c\~ ~t alc it? So mcbo dy "'rot~ thJI ,md ",mil l'" lIIe In rcfllsn\ IO ");11 it bct~u~c it w:t.nt t rJ~ .

~i~n

il. ond I

,\"d. wh en ~'ou .. ru scd t(l . ign it b~causc it wn~ n't true. thaI'. why !'OU 'H Olt - I 113''': re:ad Il1i, ~Iatenh:nl" a nd pul yC'u' initial> on il? ,\ . lIeJ\I~I

Q. \. Q.

I'm

t ~'; ng

liSlen 1 me . 0 to an iW", what

) ' 0 11

,,,ked me.

1 d )' 0 11. when ) 'OU .~fll~cd w ~il\n il . ,ign il in Ihe "'ay I ), ha,o j ut. lold the ju ry: "I ha,c Icad Ihi. 5lll CnlCnl. U.I' .Did YOI1 do that o r did you not'/ ,\ . Yeo.. I did l lu l. I ~i&fll.'" il . yeo.

Q,,\.

You d id tha i'!I . igned il. yes.

COMMENT: Nelice how. in Ih.. conlusion, Ihe wilnes.s. el\.(lIItc )'ou, lIpp.'bc S[) \0 607 A. We '.,cre ()j scu5sil1l,1lhc cast.Q. Who i ~ ~ ""'-1 A. )o.1) !~l r ;lnd lo rll"')"~"

ror Ihe

dcf~ n d an u .

Q.A.

f orYc:>.

Ih ~

bus co mp;l. O y1~'u ~ In :l~' bc

Q. n. ;I.fs ... h ~",\.

:>IMlcd \f) I binl.: 11m I 101d Illem 60 mile.1 ~II bour.

i l ",~,"'I 801

Q.

A.Q, ,\.

Yoo laId them 601 Yes.U",... did yo'u gel 1 SO IlIto'! 0 I"m "rpro.~inl ;l.l ins . T!Ial"s "'halThCf~'~ ;IW~l],

1"", d ui nU_

Q.A. Q,

biS di flc",oC1: b\:"....c n 50 10 60 " nd O,'cr SO. lell ,h e M lu,,1 lpo:cd. I didn ', , c..., , he SpccdOlnc'C"T",

r

~~n ' ,

When

you Mc

'~)' ing

SO 1 0

60.

d,,"',

~l i ll

)',l" r

;lppf(l~i ma, ion?

A.

'Thal'S my ;I.P I,roxim :nion.,~",,,,,

Q.,\.Q.

You r nppro~l M1al io n wh ich w~s m~d e !11I wi!h i!1 th e 1:\1;1 1"0 weci."S. c h~nced rrom 0 '..... 80: i~n1 th3\ Inle? >00.I~n't

to ld thi ~ jury your approxi ma ti on or il_l know )\)11 cOUldn', "l"C lhe s~ You m;ty 3nS Wtr it far :l fin nl time. TIl~ Wlt~'J'.5S0 WIl:l t i~ th e qucslio n apin? T ilt: CO\!M~ W~ ~ it yo ur app ro~i mati on up un liliwo weeks n~o 111 31 it w;u; SO and o vd? 'rU E W lm [s~, Yes , Wh en I "'Us ~lIea king 10 the 1 1()Iicc officer, he :\;lid he looked Ii"" he w;I. b'Oi nC. ItO mil.." ~n IIour, I ,.. i ~ 3~ rar 3$ I can recall , Ih,u ', wlm 1 $aid to th~ pol ice offi cer, itI'J'Y-,[c~ 1

tnl~ ) 'OU

16. 11

FI.:1s In eonsiSlcnl It'ilh l'~stlM1o,,)'

COMMENT: Counw l knows the area; where the wilr>ess' tes ti mony is Imf)fob. bl e, The witnes~ ' credibil ity is ~I' e" dy oxlrcmely lIIin.1 ~h is

point. bUI tho rll)'

;I

.,'ock ;and a h"lf

in fronl " f you? ,\1 Ih e lilli e "f in'II:lC!?Sl"p~d

Q. AI ih( liflle yo u A. R i~bl . yes..

:11 H Ili S" "'''I:I.

Q.A.

/>"0"', when )'011 ~I""prd ~ l 34lh Str....,1 and II ...~ ronlinu,n, up. ;1 IIc,'cr 1J""...'t! d,,-..n. dicc.lu_,~ he h ~ d 110 Ir.>.mc ill front orllim. l ie paSSed

Q. lie I"d no tra me? A. (Co'" inu illf1.) iii:" p;I\~ :Ill the trame.

Q.

WlI.:n)"OII $:I.!, who!n ~ Oll Wff\: SlOP"'"'!! ' he wal .@ goi ng~O.

60. or owr SO?

caMMENT: N010. ii', 3 l"C&ular block.shoI\~

~hor1

hloc l?ar~

Q.,\.

A .cul;lr cit )" btocl from lhc nUI111,.,n_thcy Yes.ir.~

n.cll >

1120t h or II mile or .... hmc'cr.

....... "..,

t lUIQ.A.

Prcu)" sbOl"l~ Pretty i ho rt. 11'. 1120th of caU "shorl .-

~

mile . ! don' l kn ow

wh~1

you

Q.A.

When >'011 SI;lrltd ... p 10 &0 fr om l~l h Sme\ \0 35111 Str~~I. arc y0 11 \dHng tb l~ jUl)' you "'nil ... p to ) 0 milc"i an llou1'.' t l"o ,,,,botl rc~I"'IIsc.) Il)' Ih ~ way. ,lid ~'IJ ha,'" allY trouble ~cci ns Ihe li&ltl al

Q.A.

351h Sued! 1'\.y~.

Q. Wa, il red when you Id't 34th Si reel?

,\.Q.A.

Wa &il m l wh en )'0 11 lefl 341h Sircet. dill il '(3)' rcd ~011 .ndtd up SlOPped 31 35th SI ..... 1? Ye l1ed afte r )'OU ,lopped~I

A.

Q.A.

)61 Sirefi? hI{ig.hl . No.COMMENT: This witr>cn c~ llnot lJct mc whether 10 ""1 hI! wao; st, 1Jy ~ .

or !\owc" down .

A,Q.

WeU did yo u ~!O P o r slow down? . J sJow~d 11 hDflC "11I~ttinil ~ job dr..ina a bus in~lcad of a la~ ;. Thi~ fxplain 5 the "..rt ila1>S ITip demon$Ifilled by IIII' Wllnc .. 110.00811001 the e~amin"t;en.

NetCe .. \lr al a ~ ttle attorney mO'O$ dO$er to Il, .. m()\ive !~ bl,l'. the ,';IM bomM mOfI! CVilrJ_C. l his , ,,acticn 1 bound \0 impren \II. $ jury witt, tll a wi\n e55 ' ta5 .

Q.

Now. )'0 11 told us Ihal you wcr~ :I bus d,i.c' fu r o nlr I""")oUlh~?

,\. Ye .Q. A.YOII s:lilli llal Mr. HIMba nd kne\,'~'Oll

.. crc a blls .:Iri-cr?

Yes.

16.1:\

Q. Al,~ .

th~

ti me Ihe

~C'CidC,'m

hap]>CJlcd. rOil "-.:rc a ,':11. d tiwr?~'ou

\'~ 'S.

Q. Do you know h ow hc found mil

werc

~ b\1~

drivc.?

,\.Q,A,

rc~,

110'" "':i!. Ih~t ? II), my phone nu mber,

Q,,~.

fly )' oury~ s,

pho n~

!lumher?

Q.,~.

Wit;':!! pllnc nil"'''''' i~ th~t'! ~1)' home ]!hon ~ nunlbcr.Your home ph'lIIe n u",hl'(t ,,~ . nl~'Y "we HyinS 1 rc,~dl "," to $.eC ir I ,'o ulJ hcc()ll\c 0 1\ witne",

Q.

A.

Q. Okay, In Ihis p'mitlll~ r C 3St'. you ~ n()w Ili31 1I""re's a hu~ COlll pan)'- )'OIl ~now the t>,,~ co mp" "), is rCI" c! ~llIcd by Mr, U!~s""nd, You knew lhm? A. \~'1 1erc~ When 1 met hi n' at the o m c~?Q,A."O il haw :t IW"I' ~ kn ow n th at Mr, 1l\~~ha"" TI:c~11.Q. Woul d )'OU nCC"I'l (h:tt f.t>!I\ m~, I,e r~l'rl"SCn" the OWllC ' (llc M ~'l ang'! A. No, I "un', ~lS ~x3min,, lio n: (I ) 10 13}O"""",,.,,1l Co"""",t:,j~'n"

t;" of '. " .. ~ II",", ",id.Y~~

~ QuJ

Q. A.

:\lr. lI1 [lck WM there wi lh )Oll?

Yes.I lli~

Q. All right. And . or C'lUfW. ""\:. 1,11k~d "b(lul howh:tppell ~(! .

3idenl

,lid ,,!

w~'!

-,.Q.A.

17.0~

11-1

h~ l cr,

We 131kcd "bou\ )'our diun', we? Anli d idn't

el~denccs

with a big round 1m)'

"C.I ,

Q.

"'0an

~'''u rsdf to be

lsre.:- ~I Ih.:l l lim~ lllll\ c~p.:ricnd ofll.'r.Ilur "illl

)"('IU

mn~id~rrd

a his .ound hOI)'

,\ .Q.

b,.,lc r:\I Ihe lime of your 3C tl ~ye no info rmatiGn abGul a d['j)Osilicn , TI,ey mu~t be IGld Ina! Ih a dCpIllil iGn w", taken will1ll~ deponent's attOfncy present. to ken uooer O ~U,. tf1.t Q uo.tio". were

put b1 the Jt!o....cy. "" ,wen; gillen by !I~ deponent. and taken do ... n l'i:l ,'\:' In the IWIm' Luhe. >'ou knew 11m! l11\)s" bch~ ..... e'e mO" ing?

.....h~n ~01I

y"t t~d )'011 d iscng:l;,"([ Ihe jlllWU lakeoff and turned off th e Lracl or. \hi~ ~ccidcnl would nol h~"e happened . " 'oul.! it?

COMMENT: Hero. tile tt:l there allyOnC cl ~~ oul Ihere lhat do,,, mechanical "."IUUIt I\! ~,JOI~"'l;Xl OSI" 11100 SI4 UC!I.pl.lnoj 'II ',(,n!9h~1

" ....""M! ' ''1

IICW

i

11.111

-Q. !low r~r ",,,,r~A.Q. A

f'(lm ,,",, ",h al poinl. Ihe froni the baler? I'd say m~y1n fou r 10 ~i\ inches.)"0 1,1

or

\\~ wi1ll":lU.

a1 th is

Your body " '3$1Yl'S.

Q. When )'01,1 rCJ,l\cd down to grub u hold of the twin ewith Ih~ lube down, Jppro.immcl y. three inches. I th in\; )'011 l aid?

'I>.'i ",-

A.

y~ 'S.

Q. !-In... ra,bel..r

w~i

you r

h a,,~ ~W~ )'

from :my of the

nlo"i n ~

Q. What ...a~ )'.Iurgil-e n?

an~"'r

ill th" lime you r dt-position ...~~

-A.,\ . Q.

A (lI)ro\i mal~ly s;~

;n( h,'5.how you werc dre ssed?

\ 'C'S, !.ir.

I went ony ~ ..

~nd

asked

)'OU

A.Q.

,\m! you s~id. - I lwd o n ~ pa ir of bib overall. '''Itl a T,hin.- I " j\:.cd you: - Wu. Ihis a short 'lccved T~hi rl'l YOli said. "Yc,.- Is \ h ~ ! riShl? A. Yes.So you dill !;'Cl )'ou r 1111(1)" "'ithi n , i~ incllWinC that the b~si s for lhol! opiniOI1!; were II ~ wed by

1110Q.

wrtne$~'

Inp ut.

A.. d )OU ba" ~ . alk~d 10 :l"tI been ~round se" cr;1I pear' . "'here )'ou ha" c d~m otlslratcd \\"h ~t has happened or what happened 1 you out tllcr~ Ihal d~r! 0

A. To m)' la",.yCTS.Q. You h3 '-" talked 10 Mr. Reich?

,'.A.

'\ l1d Sle'c.h.w~

Q. Ami yo uyc~

l:llked IU Mr. llIa, k?

Q. And . in

)"00 ~lIo""d

,\ . Q.

Mr. B1~K:k 10ll ~ ye u oot 10 Ihe machine ~nd Mr. Black ~"d an e~r'" ~nt1 f shO\\-ed I h~ m . 0 You Showed .hem?

f~cl.

17.12

,\.

Ye' 1I()r:''''''~1111''):l ~,J:! 1>" ni" , .. , .'merk," u." .U-t..io .... tho I '< M, ! I .~. ;. 1M...... 1.,Litu,c. and .... 11''''II,d.

II _ I

, "",

...

IH ,U

1 ~_1

~ued u!\(k, Ilr!)d url' liafor nn acci denl ~ 11cedly .Juscd by I h~ Ira,tor'~ sle~ fi nJ', wlk:d l'o ming efT, D don: I~~t i (yinl: 31 IriJI. the ",ilnl~ "'Ilo~ l"lt:lmin3 lion follO\0 11 tIle tractor OUI. I ~ 1il:J1 ccrrccI7

,\,Q.A.

Yes.,\nd )'011 recall as )'011 si t here looay IlInt l!le ~Iccring wh;:d "'J~ loc:lIed al)ou\ 1':0 reel ~"'''' Y frUin the tr~ct()r?,\~

J 1'CID(:l11hcr.

Q. ,\,

You remembe r tlml sir, Is lhal corl'l:cl? Yc~h. It W~ SIl '! on the tfactor.

Q. ,\ nd )'00 I'Cmember rcallndling the Sleering ",'hed'!A. One or IIi Jaw. Mr. Frdd, 0;;111( AU","c),

COMMENT: Tile fallowing subtle imptioation 01 inlllJC'I\J

rCld

thi~

lwforc you sigl\cd il1~ou rc~u

Q. ' Diu you m:ll.:,.. a n) c()rr,,,,t l() ns aftcr ,\. Y.5. I did. f in i.. kd (henl.Q.

it'!

You inililktl lhe

(OT~lion~?

A. Yes,Q. Would )'OU tell uS what ro!rcclin!!!, if 'In), Y()II m:llk \).:ltin& )'ou! initials? YOt! m'l)' look II I h.~. I() ,d"r.:sh )'I) "rr~colkt1io n.

,\ ,

II I'I)'S " .3'" lite Oldsmobile lef. {WIll hit the "an right (fonl." I PU I in the "urd "Ieft. h h~\l ill front rcar. it "'''' "Idl fmn.:

Q.

,\.Q, A. Q.A.

Wh en the statcmcm was fi l'5( ""iucl!. IllI~lcmcnt Ihal ~~'s he J,:n~''''' lh~ 1 R~f'l O';\'eill W3S Ih~ dr;\" .T In, OX;Kr: OI'CHIIlcd ,

Q.

Diu

~ou

Ch ~I'Y

PUI in lite M3Icm~nl . ~rltc tlri...:r of Ihe 19.. \'an was Roberl O'>Jeill: Did )'OU p,,1 tll~t in your

st~ 'emcol?

,\ . r did not PUI Ihis io. T>!" C'-'\!n: You did nOL pUl it in'! Tur WIl .. c.-J: No.

Q. ,\ .

Di d the in "cS Lil",lo r PU\ il in for YOll? \ 'rs.

COMMENT: Tile wilness has rlOW acknow ledged that the in"~stig"lc' put f~ cts in the slatemenl. Thus. nll~.st P-lft of til(! ->I~tcn\('n t wJS me result 01 Lho! i~flUI! nce and wggC';;tion of thoe .nl't';tiI:"Ior .

Q.

,\ .A. Q.A.

UC nut in .o rne other W olher Ih;" I>'? Iul!

Ih; "~

in there. no\ rcplcwnt )'Ollr ,ccollL"CIion o r ~'. f}1hi n~ COn1 ~i nl'" l hef~-i ". il f('fln.~111S ,,1I:u IhI; in"nl it:>lo r pU l in III, r". ;lnd )'0" am rnu:d il. is \hal a r~if $la\ O mcII1? '\. Wd l. 11't1 ly PI~~ Ea't of ,\Ikn Sl re"t, o n Wa ~crly I'b< lool;ing WI, ..,.

Q. Allen Str~ct II....'S north a nd "",to:h1 ,\ . No. it rUI15 from " 'Cst 10 e wilrress

10 u plain ho"N h", COuld hJ~ S' in II,il C;I S ~. hy ~lr. O'N~'I\I Illis nmrni~g, "" d ~n ;lI1ntll~r o~~~,;o " . under "alh. >1'(\5 lhJ t he :lew"lI)' .,,'" l h~ IJri.w of th e Old~!nohik ,'"m e 16 a full MOP >I'hen it ~nin"d at ,\lI~ n S" ~CI, ;IIId if )"" a~'''''pl that u hci n~ true. "'ould Iha l (h:mce ~'OU I """i,m~ MR R r.I.'~: Objcctinn. '1'11\: C'Wlil : On what 11.111" 11d. YOII ll:l " ~ )'our cx~c)!lio n. Do )'ou 1 :1 "~ 1 th c qu esli on in ~'ou r mind? Til li WIT ~'I,"'-;'; No. I wouL li k i t ' Cp-...aIW. d IIh, RI:(~' : J uo.lgc, r Ll\i n ~ tbis i. u p 10 Ille j",, ' 10 dC\';II ~ , lob. ject 10 Your Honor', rulin&Tm: COURT: You d on't J;k~ my I'\)J in&, rou Ila "c:m ...ttp\ion, M~, RHioc: __ , {v.:I ~J",.1t ;011:

38-21

38,1~

Q. A.

Now you ga,c your husiness card to the police ollieer, eorree!'!Yc~.

Q..\.

Did you nOlice if there were any passengers in the car'! Yes. Do you know what hcr condition :-.lo.WlIS?

Shllll~

Q. ,\.Q.A.

Did you gi,'c your card to Ms. Shull!.. or in that car'! :-.lo.L>l)"in~

l>h.

Byrd who

WaS

38.14s~ving

Jioulld>lti,)K ror

Si~llcd

SlalclllCnt

COMMENT: Counsel did not usc this signed statemcnt ulltil now. it Jor the be.t effect. Q. A. You 'isncd didn't you'! Ye,. sir.~

'latcment for all ill\'e'ligatar trom my oflicc.

Q. I shOll' yon this yellow sheel of paper. Till: COll~l: Plaintirrs' 14 for idcmilieation. (Paper marked Plaintirrs' E~hibit 14 ror idcmificatioll)

Q. A.Q.

1 will ask you if that i, your signature at thc hOllom. Yes, it i,;. Did you rcad Yes. I did.th~t

before )'ou

~igned

it?

.\.

Q. A.Q. A.

Thank }'ou. May I have it'! Yes. Do you know when this statement was t:lkcn? No,w~s it t~kcn before the investigator look fmm you? I dOIl'1 rcc~ll, ,mtem~nt

Q, Wel1.A,

th'l! the other

Q.

WllS

Ir I tell you thai it was t~kcn an January 18th. 19 ... which wilhin a few weeks after Ihe accident happened. would thm refresh your recolkction'!

''''''''''

,\.

I dQn'\ bIovo' whic:b in"cSlicator "lIS ~'OIl' in\"cSlig;o.lur. or Mr . RNSc'S in,C\tig..1Ior. I just '!ili~l/l'

l"koil

1)C~.d;tQ I

[ "rt'fl/e-d

COMMNf: In ,mpeadunl; ;I .. It,ICS\ .... illl D sigrlCd siMe'lW11\ tho 1;:\1;' >< is III co~en" Jle l1li tile ~t d~ng latlgUage in ! !\c! ' liIleTl!ent ~nt:I ask the witness if hI!" molde the SllIiemetlt. II ..., agree I~t lie did, prior il'lCoosistenl slalC1\lCII!.

Q,

Do )"011 remember IcUiu!: Mr. lI~kcr in Jnnu~ry, 1a'" Olds.mobilc ~nltr !hc inlcr5~C!i !ln into W~wrly Place?

Ihi~

A. Yes.Q.

Du you n:rnl1 tc ll ing lite in "csli",lOr Ihm you '"1'" a " ~ n &Dins ~",,~I on W:...." . I), P I:IC'in& Ihm 10 Ihe invc! lii.'otQr?

limit ja m on lIis

brah~. ~Ild

,\ . Yes. 1 do. 38. 16 c""rRsloo or Tern,sCOMM ENT: It is re lative ly rare ~ \"ljt oo.~ us~s ~ term i~D~'~' 'a(e ly. but here tllis w~ness U\.C$ thO words ", ide" ~ nd ' j,glll" inlorehan~,l bty.

tI,,.

Tht witness' copl.na tion b~t:Gme-5 $(I jumbl~d tlUlI the onl, way his

would ma~e sense is il II.! CM wa. lrDveli rlS the tima 01 \I]e co ll iSion.

tes~nlQ"Y

SiduWJ~5

at

Q.

So it " 'as 0.01 tbe kft fron l re nder o f Ih~ h it I~ .i&iot f.ont ren dcr o f Ihe '":In~ ,\ . t'o. ju.l a minu le. 1113\ i. "'h~ l I ,""Y>.

Old,nool,j]~

thai

,"'..1" 1'"

)&1(,

Q. Is 'h~.~ ~ d iOi;:lIte iu yOU( mind rc .. d~( and the lerl side'l ,\. No. Q. The}' OIn. ,'Orrc:cl ~

OlthnlQbil~ th~t

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No.

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If)' tlte ,." n thm hi. th" Old~nlObilc'l I'd >.1)' itlup~ned .i 01uhun ~o u~\)'. YI'" ju., ~,;k~d me tlio t ulxlut \I h~lr hour ugo. 1 coul,l nut dctcI01i n~_You ...

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Th ere Who.'fI APlbuitlJo;11 Ih\'re wh en Che arnbul:um: r.rmc? 11'5 dthe. ~Clo Of no? I do,,'t r.'f~11. !ndd~ nl~lI)', ~ rc

yay her. bl' vi rtue " f

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Yes.Do )"U hl"C it willi you'!' '''SoI\\a~' s.~

A.Q. A.Q. A.Q. A.

it. 1'1"" 5~'? When was thi ~ ~cn'cd'!

Y~~lc rd:>r?

time? 11'1 Ihe ar,nnno n.Whc.~?

Wh~ t

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COMMENT: Eac h ooject PO licc whellier Ihe." w~r~ "Illy ( a.s OIl Allen SUcel? Nil. 1 did mI!. You 'eIJ oo,,")I'1 . "-,,

(:,.,am~

plllCt' wh.,1C

) '01,1

live no,,'/

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\1/)1:1\', th~

1\l1l11bc. th c1thcr~'!

S l b ild A w nue.

the nu mher 8 T hird Avenue.

Wh~t 's

Q. II, .... he'" is 1h.:J1 ? A. Th~ !'1 ncar Cb re mon!Q. ,\ . Ncar Clarcmem? a~rern onl I'arl \\",,!.

Ih ~ re.

,~

... "'..

Q.

So )'OU tive near Cbrcl\lOn\ PlIrJ."-~y, right1y~.

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And th~ !upefmar~t1 is ",..,ar,h I nnd SU t'C\?~ir, it'~ ju ~t

li nk funber 110"'1\ u ,'OU

h .~ct

,\. Yes,Q.Q.

one door.

Ju u One nl

Par\;wa~'.

risht?

A. Yes, sir.Q. Q. ,\,

ri&hl? A. Yes, sir.YOII had go ne shopp inS Yel.FromY:~.

! ~ 'h~1

in the supermukel?

Q. ,\ .Q. A.

~'l>IIr lIou~?

You had YC\lr bund k s7 I hadn't went in lo the 5Lor~ at lllat lim e.~.c . BUI YO Ii Ih il!~ ha~n1

Q.A.

I

wcrc goins into l1\e Slore wilen you Slw Ihis

I ... as sains illla Ihe sture, but 1 didn'!g.ct inlo the 510'''.

Q.

And I h".;l a pictuN h.,( of Thi rd ,"'CIIUC. Is Ihi~ n picture of 'nlinl A"enue Il)Ilking northerly, ~5 ;. a p!X;>,ed .11 the lime "r Ihe occident ? Mil. S..:o.>.: I objecl lO her looking at ~o1ll e thing IIDt In evident . T'IL COURT, Nothing is in evidence. lk i, going tl> ::ISk her wh.th~, or not thlt ;~ :I fai , rcpr.:~nl:lI;on o f !I IX:l1ai n :I. ~3. Wh~t is the :lr~ .... Mr. rt.lcl1~l"? MR. f'ucUsa [~(>: I did s:l)" in m)' question-may I have the que~lion rc~aled? ! thin\.: r ~id that. I s;Jid. wis tloi~:I pkt"" e o f Thi,d A,-enue lookin, northerly IOwlrds 172nd Sm-ct ~ ; il le admitted, i[ tllCy arc not in e.i

denee. Here. tt'e witnes. is used to idenlify lile pilotOllrapils as l>eing ac representations o[ tile scene at tile time of tile acc;iden\. Thougll sile is reluclon! to even "dlllit IIlis SlIIilll point. persistcnc:c by eoonsel re~ults in ultim"tely obtaining the necessalY foundation lor U5e of the pholograplls.curat~

Q.

A.Q.

Is Ihat Ihe way Third ,\venue lookcJ as it wa, cOII,tnlcted and built at th~t time as you lookc:d townrds 1i2nd StrCe!. including thc placc where thc bu~ cnJeJ up? Now [ can'! su)" whetller that i~ g(ling toward~ l72ml Strect or not. You can't "')'.

M~. Fl:clI>""~G:

M"y we havo it marked for iJontili"atioll'!

Tllr COlJRT: All righl. (Photograph marked I'lnintiffs' Exhihit 11 for idcntificatioll.)

Q.

Look at il again. Do you r~cognilc the street therc? Look al thc stor"s. Look at the buildings. Just tell uS whelher you recognilC the 'trcet.

MR. S,o.lt!Rl' The objlioo j , o~er",h:d. /'.-1 ..... Ry;m, jOlt look ~ I Ih~ picture nnd. if yuu C~ 11 tcll U~. jf }'OU .nn! toll ~5. yu u ca nnOi. C:tn }'OU, bl' c~3 ,nlni nllthc phOl o, t r.tph. tcll UI ",hetocI tbat il ~ f3;, ' ,"present3tion o r lite ap_ penntnlX of Iht ~In:el in 195M, the S lr~ct bci~S Third,' 'nu ~ belwee n ClaNn'oni ~ncJ l72n d Stn:,,! looking non lo ? TII~ WI "'~~ Yel. Ihis is Ihe way il appc.:If~-d, Thin! A~et\uc. r ilE C()t: Rr, Th~t"' tll~ way il ;oP P03 n.:cJ in 19S8.MR. F1)Orilk: 0" the lWO end5: i~ thai

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.,jd' h:wc hcen PJtkcd Iltere, il didn't l,,~"cn \ you Irom $o:ci n~ him t lm s;"s. did il?

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J 9_ 11

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No.Now Ihc pbn whe rem ~n n b~

d id

crQ'~. yo~ ~~(

laid i\ ..... ~j

~

tOUIIlc

of c:lt )cnglh . Do you mean two

\cnl:lhs o( oJo )'0 11 one car lengt h or 110 )"ou menn Ih fe~ en, IcIlJ;lhl o r Uo

rou mnll a roupl: . ...him 1lIC::1n. t ..."O, "SOlan). A. Aftcr he \\"a' I.:nochll, Mler the Ilo~' kn oc~ .d him _COMMENT : ThO wilne.' 51~l t~ \n an~w er ~omo diffe rent qOO:;licn . and i~ Immediat&ly CUI off. Oll~ing counsel t.1CS 10 makt: tile jury fce1tilat tile CrO~i e.:> of the Iiou. or th e" 3~ \,';Iu~~d

falJ,. h,lW " m(Ch r~~.lj """~'? _ _. __ If \ ' ''' IIIl'Q;" "'(: ,1 :1Y """I::/,,,IO C wb li e a l "IlL I,. wh O 1\< )-"" 1l,,,',, ,,,:1y ';I ~'" \II' ~ul~;,.'1 '" I 1

w,"

~'" ~~~.r ;"".'l'll ~.0)' had ra" i'lt o lhe bu " Now, IIIaf5 when I nOli""d ThI: bus..

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I 39.11

Q.

So you ne,'" r notittd the bu~ unti l the lim e or the

~o nt~ c t :

;&Ihnt 3'1.12~ idc

right?

,\ . Tlml', com:cl.O~lrlMllions

10

VI~ ..

COMMENT: Th~ .,ilrlC" now admllS In~1 U'~'e wore CM~ ole ng Ihe "ll tle ' Heel; 111M is. pclletrli\irucliCM 10 lhe ..... ilne viow .

Q.

A.~

/\ nd. in ci dcntoli). you Iell th, ju ry. there W~~ n sol id row or p~ r1'ed c~ " ulol1g yo ur lidc o( Th ird A,omuc 11.31 :t(tcmoon: i. thl oo,r;:ct? Yes. Ih ~.e was cnrl 111er~.

39. 13 Su.Jd.'f1 O cru ..... cc COMMENT: Vi. lually e . .... r .:>ttitlenl ace u. s . apidly. withOlot mIKh trpporlunity 10 ob:;Cl" tll~ detail's . This is esrteCi ally I'll'(! of ~ulomo bile :.ce idcnIS. wir e ~ wiln e~$ ju.1 IidPpI.'M 10 hi:' Il)Oiu .IIrati: lIl t bo}'?

N,,,,,, Ihi .Yes.

or roO",C i(

"'~s.

yes,

Q.

A nd yuu ,",,"cr hcard :till' br~kc. applyin~. d id you7 YOIl I;now Ihe M11lnd orb.akn ~uddcnly appl,od and lhc rubhi" , or lubl..:r On the srQund'l Yo u "e" Cr h"~ro anylhing Ii~u

Ihal. d id yoo ?COMMENT: TIl(! f.ilum to IlCa. th e $QuUI Or screec h 01 bra ~~~ is $ignifiu nt ; a PQ ISQ n's eal~ Me ~ Iw", . r>'c~u mabJ1 'ope n" 10 ",and so IlIat failwe 10 hear the sOllnd inler$ 11",\ Ihl.' ' OUlld w~s!lOt th..... iI (0 h~a ' ,

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When lhe bus ~Irut" Ihe boy I "'3sn'l listenin!; fOl :tny hra ~c, o r anyl ]L ing."~" "'"

39,16"ht, l'UCmIlfJlC I mo "C the i:~!'O n ~\V c,

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be stricke n OUI

a~

nOI

r~

T!t ~ C{)IJ ~T:

I~ ~ ~""~'d

Strike II (lUt. you ..'l1cthcr )'OU ht'~ rd it. Did you hea r il or dido't

you?

TIH: WtT);f.S-" No , I didn'j hear II,Q,

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Befe re Ihe hll~ m u cic lite bor, r ou did o', hc'ar a roun~ of a car Of a hea.')' bu ~ being braked bcfor~ th e 00)' C hit; Ol you d id o't hear any ~uch IhiRE' did )'Ou? No, I didn't.'\II nes.~

39,15 UJlft:tsOlllbrt M.S('rlion. 8 )' 1M>Q, .\ ,

Th is view )'011 .,ad h~1 you say }'OII had, Ihal WlIS of a m o.-in!: ,chick:. rig.hl'! r don't unde rstand (he quc'\tio n.

CmJu: Will yOIl .~fr.lmc .10" qU" ~IIon. Th is "iew you had of Ihe bur.. wa. Ihot of ~ bu. IhQI was mo,,ins? "h31 is lh ~ qu~~tioll . ,\. A~ roon ~$ Ille bu.\ Slfud.: the bol. he Slopped.Q.

Tll~

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Stoppny """jell ;': Cl)ntwy 1 0 common son~. EVillYOII ~""IlSe 'illill . The Iogj. c:.ll mOi Ne 101 Ihe ~lioll is IIolttiJijl r IC)I' tile clc fe nd~n t. Tl l U~ , wh en counsel can ~ll0W the JII'" I~~t !lIe witnu~ Iii eJOlcge+'i linE, the wjt~ will low he+' :.ppea' lI>Ct a/being -dl$;n tetestea:

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then , ri & m Ihat ,'cry slKl t? ht

011 a

d\m~.

, igh t.

ri~ht!

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3'.16

Q. T ell me. m~dall1 , ;~ il :t f~u, ~nd I 11'1e o;>ppO n~1.Coo~

.... ill

~It'm.tely

in j,O(jr 1\ .t.:. P pl ace amI },o u w.nl ~)lOppi ns, ri~hl? ,\ . Y ~ :. fl~'T. TIl al wn~ bdorc a n)' Ilo liccn1:lo c~m~. ri~ht? TIl~ Ct)\;~ I , On~ Ilu e,li on ~t ~I lin le.

Q.

Q . Did )VII J:O in shopping beru.~ i1n~' pe :In,w~r Th~y

""'3. t:,II~d .

lold

111 ~

Ihe q,,~sti(lli . I" go il' thcre. They 'chi

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Q . Who laid IOU? .\ . J 1:0 into a rooln Jnd Ih c.~. ~u.e crrough "'JI the .~ptc~ental;~C of Ihe I.IIIS rompany. ;&1111 I WJ5 told 10 ~o in th~1 roo "" Th l !'. ~ II I c:ln S:I~'.U~

Q. YOLl101d

)'001 weI< 1!>ld by

su m ~ bod)'

wilen you rot

b~,~.

Itis name is on Ihe ! uhpocna the '~.~ubt>OCnJ

Q. 'f he Il JnlC was 011 the5uh~ClCIlJ ,

when yu go, ' h"

wasn', il1

A.

y~.

,ir.

Q, 1\11 righl. I want 10 know how

~OIl gol 10 \h" ~"cnl h floo r?' Till: \\'If:chl ~r. I' m a lill ie bi, CQ ufuscd. 1 bdiC.n 51rate lI..,t lime elOl,m.n;Qfl' ~"! c,iliU I in dctelmini"ll liil ililily, Ai>' ~o''''13lion~ must be ta~ell ve