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COMMUNITY CONSULTATION REPORT Wastech Services Ltd. and the Village of Cache Creek Amendment to Operations Certificate MR7577 December 7, 2007 APPENDIX G: PUBLIC MEETING PRESENTATION 33

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COMMUNITY CONSULTATION REPORT

Wastech Services Ltd. and the Village of Cache CreekAmendment to Operations Certificate MR7577

December 7, 2007

APPENDIX G:

PUBLIC MEETING PRESENTATION

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Cache Creek Landfill Annex Proposal

Public Information SessionCache Creek Community HallNovember 21,2007

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-.Landfill background

• 47 hectare site in operation since1988

• Engineered landfill built to BCLandfill Guideline Standards

• Employs 70 people directly,another 50 through contractors

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Landfill background

DThompson-NicolaoFraser ValleyoPowell RiveroCowichan ValleyoMetro Vancouver

• 98.5% of refuse from- Metro Vancouver- Fraser Valley Regional District- Powell River Regional District- Cowichan Valley Regional District

• 1.5% of refuse from- Thompson-Nicola Regional

District• Refuse in place as of

December 2007 = 7.1 Mtonnes

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Current operations

• Operates 24/7• About 40 B-Train round trips

per day• 500,000 tonnes of waste per

year• Cover soil available on site• Landfill gas is collected and

flared (utilization plan in place)• Leachate collected/re-circulated

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Landfill monitoring

• Landfill Engineer provides monitoring, review, and annual report• Additional monitoring:

Wastech staff - daily inspectionsLandfill Advisory Committee - weekly inspectionsMinistry of Environment - semi-annual inspectionsIndependent Engineer reviews annual report

• Environmental Performance has been first-rate

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Why is an Annex needed?

• Metro Vancouver Solid Waste System has essentially reached fullcapacity

• Waste volumes continue to grow despite Metro Vancouverachieving recycling goal of 50%

• Other options include shipping waste to the United States oramending the Vancouver Landfill permit

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• 6.7 hectares west of currentlandfill

• Will meet BC Landfill Guidelinecriteria

• Will have a synthetic liner• Present infrastructure to be

utilized

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Amendment Process

• Public consultation required by TNRD Solid Waste ManagementPlan

• TNRD Board approval• Apply to Ministry of Environment• Ministry of Environment approval

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-Transportation

• New engine technology - 90%reduction in particulates

• Today - 40 round trips/day =2.7% of commercial trips

• New Annex - increases roundtrips per day by 15

• At total 55 trips = 3.9% ofcommercial trips in FraserCanyon

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Transportation

• Trucks head for Cache CreekLandfill loaded with refuse

• Same trucks heading for coastcontracted to haul wood chips,sand, and mushroom compost

• No empty trailer trips• Cost effective and

environmentally sound

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Recent Experience

• During Vancouver Landfill closure (July to Oct) the Cache CreekLandfill operated at an equivalent rate of 1,000,000 tonnes per year

• Truck traffic was up to 100 round trips/day• Landfill equipment and staff functioned effectively at this level• No concerns expressed by the public about increased traffic or

activity

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COMMUNITY CONSUlTATION REPORT

Wastech Services Ltd. and the Village of CacheCreekAmendment to Operations Certificate MR7577

December 7, 2007

APPENDIX H:

QUESTIONS & ANSWERSFROM CACHE CREEKMEETING

November 21,2007

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Cache Creek Community Hall- Questions & Answers

Wednesday, November 21, 2007

Q: Why are you putting a synthetic liner on the Annex portion when there's no synthetic liner on themajor portion ofthe landfill?

A (Wastech): Because ofthe steeper gradient of the main landfill, the soil liner is sufficient. But theAnnex portion is on a plateau and the gradient is less. So we decided to put in a synthetic liner as asafeguard.

Q: Metro Vancouver requires room for an additional 200,000 tonnes of extra waste? if it doesn't cometo Cache Creek, it's going somewhere else, right?

A (Metro Vancouver): Yes, that is correct -there is approximately 200,000 tonnes additional waste thatneeds to be disposed of. There are three options: the Annex, export to Washington, or changing theVancouver landfill capacity rates. The Annex is Metro Vancouver's preferred option. We'd like to seethis as opposed to the other two. But one of the three will have to be implemented.

Q: What happens if the government says that Ashcroft Ranch is where the garbage is going to go?

A (Wastech): Even if a decision was made tomorrow, it would still take until 2010 to get it ready. So inthe meantime the GVRDstill has a need for additional disposal.

Q: is this proposal here separate from the replacement of the Cache Creek landfill process?

A (Wastech): Yes, this is just the additional capacity that's needed for the next few years. It's not thelong-term replacement of the Cache Creek landfill. That's separate from this proposal.

Q: With the proposed Annex, will there be more employees hired to handle the extra garbage that'scoming in?

A (Wastech): There would likely be a requirement for a few additional mechanical staff because theincrease from 40 to 55 trailers would definitely increase the amount of maintenance that we'd have todo.

Q: Would the additional staff members be from the Cache Creek/Ashcroft area?

A (Wastech): Yes, if additional staff were required they would be based here because this is where thetrailer repairs would take place.

Q: Who will do the development?

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A (Wastech); We will do the earth moving, but we will contract specialists to do the lining.

Q: When you put the new liner in the new Annex section, does that mean there has to be new sumps?

A (Wastech): The leachate collection system will tie into the existing systems.

Q: Is Wastech guaranteed to be a part of the new landfill?

A (Metro Vancouver); With the WastechfMetro Vancouver agreement, Wastech will be the operator ofthe new landfill.

Q: As for as The Annex is concerned, I'm fully in support of it and I hope that goes ahead. But the onlyconcern that I have is that I've heard that Wastech is considering closing the existing landfill onweekends.

1\ (Wastech): That is incorrect. The public drop-off will be open and manned during posted hours.

Q: This Annex here, is this going to used once the existing landfill is full? Or are you planning onrunning two landfill operations at the same time?

A (Wastech): The way we develop the landfill is baSically in plateaus. And as we get closer to the crest,we will expand the plateau to the west and fill into the Annex area. Then the entire landfill will grow toa peak similar to the current plan.

Q: Since there's been an attendant at the landfill, I've found that the grounds are a lot neater. I make alot of trips up there with my garden refuse and it's really nice that the attendant actually comes overand sometimes helps me unload, but it's really nice to have a clean facility. Thank you.

A (Wastech): Thank you for your comment.

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COMMUNITY CONSULTATION REPORT

Wastech Services Ltd. and the ViliaBe of CacheCreekAmendment to Operations Certificate MR7S77

December 7, 2007

APPENDIX I:

QUESTIONS & ANSWERSFROM LYTTON MEETING

November 221 2007

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Lytton Council Chambers - Questions & Answers

Thursday, November 22, 2007

Q: I don't understand why the waste can't be shipped to the U.S.

A: A waste facility, including the notion of exportation, has to be Identified in the Solid WasteManagement Plan for that particular region in order for waste to be sent there. Currently this isn't inMetro Vancouver's plan and they would have to undergo an amendment process including publicconsultation.

Q: My understanding is that Roosevelt, WA is aggressively soliciting waste to be sent there. So why wouldit be such a big deal to make that amendment to ship stuff there?

A: The challenge is having the Solid Waste Management Plan amended to now accept another facilitythat you could ship to. And many types of consultation need to take place in order to make thathappen.

Q: So that's an impediment that's not readily overcome?

A: Timing is the issue. And probably some very significant political impediments to that as well.

Q: Your slide shows that at 40 round trips per day, that constitutes 2.7% of the commercial traffic in theFraser Canyon? Where did you get those numbers - 2.7%? It should be more like 27%.

A: These numbers are based on 2004 data from the Ministry of Transportation and Highways. It was themost recent data we could get from them.

Q: I have a concern about the whole concept of having a landfill and the proposed Annex to me iscompletely unacceptable and the technology that you're proposing is obsolete. There are otheroptions available. I'm suggesting we divert the solid waste from the landfill before it gets in there andget the energy value out of it and mitigate the carbon emissions and reduce methane and carbondioxide.

A: That is Metro Vancouver's responsibility under their solid waste system.

Q: What. if any, would be the relationship between the Annex and this proposed extension that I'veheard about?

A: At this point there is no link. ThisAnnex is strictly about the connection to our current landfill operation.

Q: There's tremendous confusion about this process.

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A: Yes, you're absolutely right, There's a huge amount of confusian around this, and a lot of it has to dowith the timing, We just went forward at the beginning of October for an amendment to our OperationsCertificate to deal with the resuit of the City of Vancouver labour dispute, Now we're asking for theAnnex, And then you've got these other public consultations going on all that the same time, So it isunderstandably confusing,

Q: This is a hypothetical question, What would the GVRD do if this Annex proposal was turned down?Would they have to go to the drawing board and come up with other options?

A: Yes, I think they would,

Q: Will an environmental assessment have to take place?

A: No, we just found out from the Environmentai Assessment Office that we do not need anenvironmental assessment because this Annex is not extending the life of the landfill. It will still close in2010, Also, taking additional tonnes to the Cache Creek Landfill does not require an amendment to theTNRD's Solid Waste Management Plan,

Q: But there's a public consultation and the Ministry of Environment has to review it?

A: Yes, The Ministry of Environment has a public consultation process attached to their review,

Q: And you need an amendment to your operating certificate at the end of the day, correct?

A: Yes,

Q: How will you deal with the title? The Nklaka'paxum own that Annex land, not the Crown, How will youaddress the title and ownership?

A: We have already had and been in discussions and consuitation with both the Bonaparte Band andthe Nlaka'pamux tribal nation,

[Note: The above response was incorrect, The title and ownership issue is being addressed through aseparate process,]

Q: Who owns that landfill now - Metro Vancouver?

A: The Village of Cache Creek leases it from the Crown, The Annex would just increase the size of theleased orea,

Q: Why isn't Metro Vancouver here making the case for the Annex as opposed to Wastech?

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A: Because we would be the operators of the landfill and because we hold the operating certificate.And we're asking for an amendment to the operating certificate. Metro Vancouver does not own theoperating certificate. We do. jointly with the Village of Cache Creek. It's a service that we provide toMetro Vancouver. but It's our certificate.

Q: It sounds like Wastech has a monopoiy on landfills for the GVRD and Vancouver.

A: We don·t have a monopoly on the system. There are three main disposal systems In the system: theVancouver Landfill in Burns Bog which is owned and operated by the City of Vancouver; the WasteEnergy facility in Burnaby which is owned and operated by Veolia Environmental; and the Cache CreekLandfill.

Q: You are asking for an Increase from 500,000 to 700.000 tonnes, The Burnaby incinerator is physicallyconstrained?

TL:Yes. it is already running at capacity.

Q: And the Vancouver Landfill out at Burns Bog - is that also maxed out at 750.000 tonnes?

A: Yes. But the City of Vancouver is dealing directly with the province on their Operating Certificateconstraints.

Q: Isthis volume increase a permanent one?

A: There's no question that the volume of waste in the Lower Mainland is growing. We're seeing anincrease of approximately 80.000 tonnes per year. We want to develop an Annex that will allow us to goto 700.000 tonnes. but whether or not we need to go to the full 700.000 tonnes next year remains to beseen. But it gives the GVRD the option of sending 700.000 tonnes to Cache Creek.

Q: You're taking waste from Metro Vancouver. but you're also taking ~ from the TNRD and otherregional districts. What communities in the TNRDare you taking waste from?

A: What the Cache Creek Landfill takes from the TNRDcommunities is primarily along the western side.So - Lytton. Spences Bridge. Ashcroft. Cache Creek. Logan Lake. Big Bar. 70 Mile. and Savona - that'sbasically the range of communities that feed the Cache Creek Landfill.

Q: What percentage just comes from Vancouver Island?

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A: I don't have the exact figure, but it's in the four-percent range of the total capacity. And about oneto two percent coming from Powell River.

Q: How will Wastech benefit from the Annex? So, more garbage" ,more money?

A: At the end of the day, our interest is for providing continued employment in the community. We havean obiigation through our contract with the GVRO to be the landfill operator, wherever that landfill maybe, up until the year 2016. So we're looking to continue our business through the life of this iandfill andhopefully into whichever replacement landfill comes about. That's our first and foremost interest.Secondly, as part of our obligation under our contract. we're trying to find a way to assist MetroVancouver in dealing with their disposal capacity for now until the end of our life in 2010 with thisparticular landfill.

Q: it seems to be that Wastech has a financial gain with this Annex and our concerns are falling on deafears, If the GVRO is the decision maker, they should be here as well.

A: The GVRO and the TNROand the Ministry of Environment were all there last night in Cache Creek. Wedid invite them to tonight's meeting as well.

Q: I'm also concerned about the highway situation - that's a lot of traffic. It's 55 loads, but it's more like110 loads because it's 55 loads of garbage coming this way, and 55 loads of chips going that way. It's adangerous stretch of highway and it's only going to get worse. You didn't hear concerns from thepublic over the summer, but we were definitely aware of the increased traffic. From my understandingof an Annex, it's just another grab in that municipality for tax purposes. But we all suffer the impacts ofthat. So that's not fair to the people here, in Spences Bridge or Boston Bar or Spuzzum for that matter.

A: Thank you for your comment.

Q: How much diesel fuel is consumed every year, burned up by those Super Bs?And greenhouseemissions coming from the landfill?

A: I'm sorry, I don't have those figures off the top of my head.

Q: I hear you talking about the trucking concerns, but my concern is about the land. I haven't heardyou speak about the studies that have been done, the findings, the archaeological work.

A: When the current landfill was built in the late '80s, all the appropriate studies done at that point intime. But more recently, i think it was 1995, there was a full archaeological study that encompassed anarea way beyond the landfill. So there were reports that were done by Golder Associates.

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Q; When you say "archaeological work", what does that mean? Was it just an oveNiew or an AlA animpact assessment?

A: I'm not sure if the terms from the mid-90s are exactly the same as they are today, but from the workthat I've seen, It's actually an archaeological impact assessment that was done.

Q; Why would you only use a single liner for the Annex? Why wouldn't you use a triple liner?

A: The new portion of landfill is in design at this point so I don't have the final details.

Q; How long does this public consultation process last for this Annex before It goes to the EnvironmentalAssessment Office?

A; We would like to get this report to the TNRD Board by December 10th In time for their meeting onDecember 2()1h.

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