st peter's meeting 6th dec 2011
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An open evening for the
Edinburgh Residents for Statutory Notice Reform
Facebook group
7th December 2011
Alistair Drummond
Gordon Murdie
Kate Farrell
Philip Knight
Introductions
Peter Long
1. The meeting with Peter Long, interim manager of “Property and Conservation”
2. Management of projects – a reminder
3. Where is it still going wrong – case history
4. The legal perspective
5. Question Time - Kate Farrell in the chair
Gordon MurdieMD, Quantus QS
BBC Scotland Investigates“Scotland’s Property Scandal”
Expert QS
Peter Long
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Meeting with Peter Long; interim manager Property and Conservation
“A Checkpoint Group of external stakeholders specifically tasked with advising the Council on the development of the service model”
Building bridges or a bridge too far?
And now a swift reminder of the management services
--------- 1. Foreword
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
“MANAGEMENT AND PROCEDURES”
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
“MANAGEMENT AND PROCEDURES”
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
“MANAGEMENT AND PROCEDURES”
Fundamental services include
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
“MANAGEMENT AND PROCEDURES”
Also
The initial site survey should therefore define the extent of the work
Of course undermeasurement of required works is “problematic” – it is also wrong
Another spelling error apart, of course this is a requirement
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
“MANAGEMENT AND PROCEDURES”
And there’s more .....
“The only works legally allowed to be carried out are those noted on the statutory notice”
If more work is “necessary” then it is to be included in the TENDER – not months or years later
The highest of standards are clearly set down – this is what you are entitled to for 15% of the project cost
“MANAGEMENT AND PROCEDURES”
And then there is the all important issue of costs.
Is it that owners are to be NOTIFIED AND INFORMED ABOUT COST INCREASES?
Or kept in the dark until it is too late?
What happened to proper professional cost control and cost reporting – homeowners are paying a 15% fee for this service.
MAY 2008Contractor appointedProject Cost£59,077.37
AUGUST 2008In process of confirming a likely cost for the completed works
OCTOBER 2008Cost projection of final cost is completed. Now “In the region of £60,000”
NOVEMBER 2008
“ No further cost updates since our October 2008 newsletter”
NOVEMBER 2011
Final Invoice – at worst £66,000
NOVEMBER 2011
The total bill hits £107,000
DECEMBER 2008
The works are completed.
Case Study
MAY 2009Oh dear – Seems the plan is to put a scaffold up after the works are completed to render a chimney???. This is to cost (including more scaffolding) £6,000
Quotation
Projected Fi
nal Cost
FINAL A
CCOUNT0
20000400006000080000
100000120000
This case study is the subject of a formal complaint
CEC have inspected the fridge and larder.
Apparently I need £200 worth of
groceries and they’ll get them for me.
CEC phone from the shops and reassure me that the grocery bill is indeed as close
to £200 as doesn’t matter. All is well.
CEC get back from the shop and they have spent £350 of my money. They
want paid but won’t let me see the till
receipt
Case StudyMy Clients have good reason to query why their bill escalated . Obviously the construction industry is a bit more complex than a supermarket but simple sums apply to both. How easy is it to produce a till receipt for the
project (or Final Account as we call it) for comparison with the original costed shopping
list (or accepted tender) as we call it.CEC have invoiced my clients. They believe their invoice to be correct. CEC, send to me or let me see your substantiation & soon. My clients are rightly concerned about the escalated bill so let’s see how much they are being charged for a quoin, rybat, bit of lead or tin of beans.
And that’s not all. Whilst CEC are digging out their copies of the tender and Final Account, they should also think about:-
Was the selected tenderer on
the framework agreement at
the time of tender
Did the appointed contractor meet CEC’s selection criteria
Why did scaffolding have to go up
again when the project was finished
Are there any guarantees for the flat roofingWhy have the owners had to pay for
damage consequent on works
through an “ emergency notice”
And, how appalling is this? ..............
Why have the owners suffered consequential damage due to builders rubble blocking downpipes with subsequent freezing, cracking and (long reported) water ingress to two properties with resultant timber damage and ceilings coming down
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