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KERRYCASSIDY(KC):So,certainly,theWhiteHatshavebeenbehindthescenesworkingtomakethisDisclosureevenpossible.Inasense,ourPetePetersonisaWhiteHat.HisbackgroundistenyearsasaMarine.Okay?
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Youwantedtosaysomething,Rob?
ROBERTFLEISCHER(RF):Yes,andthenIwillgiveitovertoDr.OLeary.Ijustwantedtosay...Imean,ImtheonlyGermanguyhere.YouremostlyAmericans.
[comments,crosstalk,responses,laughter]
PAOLAHARRIS(PH):British.
NICKPOPE(NP):British.
RF:Yes,British.ImtheonlyGermanguy.IdidntsayImtheonlynon...andAustralian,ofcourse,andBritishaswell.ButthisisliketheAnglohowdoyousay?theAnglophobicworld.
IthinkthatthereisarealchanceforDisclosurewhentheAnglo-Saxonbankingsystemgoesdown.AndIthinkthatthereisagoodchancethatthiscanhappenquitefast.Imean,allofthesortofdebtoftheUnitedStatesisactuallyinthehandsoftheChinese.Andyouhaveemergingstates,like,especially,theChinese,the...ah...youhaveIndia,youhaveRussiaandyouhaveBrazil.
So,allofthesecountries,theydealwiththeUFOissueinamuchmoreopenwaythantheAmericansdo,forobviousreasons.Imean,like,inBrazil,theyhaveopenUFOfileswithUFOencountersinthejungle,whichisamazing.
InIndia,theyhavetheflyingvimanasanditspartoftheirculture,actually,theflyinggodsthatcamefromheavenandhelpedtocreatehumanculture.So,forthem,itsnotsuchabigissuethattherereextraterrestrials.
And,justrecently,ItalkedtoaChinesemasterofaspiritual...ah...aspiritualthing.Idontknowhowtodescribeitnowin
English.Anyway,shetoldmethatsheknowsthatextraterrestrialcontactisactuallysomethingconsideredofficialinChina,thatthereareuniversityprofessorsopenlydealingwiththecontentofwhatthecontacteesarebeingtoldbythem,andhowitallrelatestoquantumphysicsandstuff.
Ithinkthatthisisactuallyaveryinterestingthing,andthatthismightemergewhenwelivenotinamono-polarworld,butinamulti-polarworld,whichIhopewillhappensoon.
Excusemeforthat.[laughs]IdontwanttooffendyouAmericans,but
KC:Absolutely.
RF:youknow,inmysense,Ithinkthatsthebestthingwecando,tohaveamulti-polarworld.And,then,IthinkDisclosurewillbemuchmorelikelythanwhatwehaverightnow.
[toBrianOLeary]Now,please...
BRIANOLEARY(BOL):Yeah.Iwasjustgoingtoreturntothisissue
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ofanger,becauseIthinkthatsthelargestobstacletoDisclosure,justingeneral,ishowarepeoplereacting,orgoingtoreact,toDisclosure...
BOBDEAN(BD):...havingbeenconnedforsomanyyears...
BOL:havingbeenconnedforsomanyyears.And,tomywayofthinking,thisisthekindof...angermanagementmightbetherightkindofapproachforthis,especiallyinAmerica.
AndIthinkyoureright,themulti-polarworld,Ithink,ifAmericacouldrecognizethatalittlebitmoreandkindofloosenupalittlebit,that,maybe,thereisawayofslippingthroughthisperiod,whichis...
Obviouslyheadsaregoingtoroll.Therearegoingtobealotofvindictivenessandanger;and,somehow,thatneedstobemanagedinawaythatsforeverybodysbenefit.Andthatsthebigissue.
BD:Youliveoutofthecountryatthemoment.
BOL:Yes.
BD:So,youmayhavelosttouchwithafewthings.AndImnotsaying
thisinanegativesense.
IliveinArizona,andthereisarunonammunition.PeoplearebuyinggunsandammunitionintheSouthwesttosuchalevelthatthesportinggoodsstoresandthegunstorescannotkeepastockonhand,becausetheminutetheygetashipment,theshelvesarecleanedout!
Now,thisisthegroupofpeoplethatIhappentoknowprettywell,becauseIcamefromthatgroup.Theyarestockpilingguns;theyrestockpilingammunition;and,whenthewordcomesouthowtheyvebeenconnedandliedtoforsolong,youregoingtohavebloodinthe
streets.
And,Ithink,theObamacrowd,beingsharp,knowthis.IdontbelievethatObamaisgoingtoletthis...hedoesntwantthisonhisplaterightnow,becausehesgotsodamnmanyotherthingstodealwith.
BILLRYAN(BR):Steve,whatdoyouthinkabout?
BD:Whenyoustartthinkingabouthowmanypeopleouttherethroughoutthecountryarebuyinggunsandstockpilingammunition,thatisanindicationthatthereisaleveloffrustrationandangerouttherein
theAmericanmassesthatthepoliticiansinWashingtonmaynotevenbeawareof.
BR:Stephentalkstopoliticiansallthetime--dontyou,Stephen?
STEPHENBASSETT(SB):Notexactly.But,oneofmyconcernshereiswereabouttogoontheradioinacoupleofminutes.
BR:Yep.Welljustcontinueas...
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SB:But,Imean,theres...thataudienceiscomingin
BR:Right.
KC:Thatsright.
SB:...sotheydontknowwhatsgoingon.So,Imgoingtomakeaveryquickcomment,becausethererealotofthingsIdliketocommenton,buttheresnoantecedentfortheaudience.Illhavetokindofre-upit,but,letmejustsaythis.Thisisveryshortandsumsupalotofthings.
IbelievethattheprinciplereasonthatAmericansareexperiencingsomuchangstandfrustration,cynicismandparanoia,theprinciplereasonthattheyarebuyinggunsand/orexpressingthemselvesinwayswhichareconcerning,isnotbecausetheyvebeentoldterribletruths,butbecausetheyvebeenliedtoextensivelyforthelast,well,goingbacktotheVietnamWar,primarily,theGulfofTonkinResolution...
BD:Robbed!Robbed,forGodssake!SB:...andstolenblind.So,Isortofviewittheotherway.Ifyouwantpeopletostopbeing
paranoiacandstopbeingdistrustfulofthegovernmentandstoparmingthemselves,youneedtostarttellingthetruth.Ifyoustarttellingthetruthandthingsllgetbetter.
AcknowledgingtheETpresenceisabig,bigoneandthatllgettheballrolling.Hopefully,itwillleadtoahowwouldyousay?areformistera,wherethetruthbecomesStandardOperatingProcedure.
Holdingback,waiting[and]somehowkeepingthesecretlonger?Idontthinkitsgoingtomakeitanybetter;itsonlygoingtogetworse.
AndthelastthingIllsayisthis:ETsarentjusthereforthe
Americans.TheydidntcomeallthiswaybecauseThisAmericathing,wegottotellthemthetruth.Right?Theyrehereengagingtheentireplanet.We[Americans]representfivepercentoftheworldspopulation.
Itcomesdowntothis:ItdoesntreallymatterwhethertheAmericansarereadyornot,ortheBangladeshis,ortheFrench,ortheRussians.Theyregoingtodealwithit,whethertheylikeitornot,becauseitsgoingtohappen,whethertheylikeitornot.Itsunavoidableandinevitable.
BD:Makeapoint,Stephen,thattheETsarenotvisitors,forGods
sake.
SB:Well,again,Im...
BD:Theyrenotjustvisitinghere.Theyvebeenherefromthebeginningofourhistory.
SB:Butthatdistinctiondoesntaffectmypoliticalpoint.
BD:Well,itoughtto!
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SB:Why?Imtalkingaboutextraterrestrialsinthesenseofnon-humanbeings,asweunderstandthem,withtechnologybeyondwhatwehave.
WhethertheyrefromtheInnerEarth,fromanotherdimension,fromthepast,fromotherstarsystemsOccamsrazorwouldsayfromotherstarsystemswherevertheyrefrom,right?Itisamajoreventandasignificantthingfortheworldspopulationtoknowthis,andthatcrossingpoint,whenthatself-acknowledgementoccurs,isabigdeal.
Now,theparticulars:Weknowtheresahugesub-storyhere.Weknowthatbehindthisisamassivestory.Itshugeandbroad,andeverybodyistryingtounderstandit.Everybodyknowsalittleaboutit,alittlehere,andsoforth.Nobodyknowsthefullstory;nobodysgotitallright.Theyknowalittlepiece.
Thedilemmaisthatthepoliticalprocess,orthesocialtransition,isnotaboutfiguringthewholethingoutandbringingitouttothepublicandsaying:Here.Wecantdothat.
Disclosureisnothingmorethanthefirststeptowardsthatprocess.Because,oncethegovernmentsformallyacknowledgethisrealityandtheschoolscanteachit,andthephilanthropistscanfundit,andthe
mediacancoverit,andtheintellectualscandiscussit--thenwecanstartsortingthewholedamnthingoutandsay:Thisisnonsense;thatsnottrue;thispersonsafraud;thatpersonstherealdeal;thatstorysgood;thatstorysbad.And,actually,createarealhistoryofthisissueasbestwecan.
But,untilDisclosuretakesplace,thatsnotgoingtohappen.Weregoingtocontinuetochurn,andchurn,andchurn.
Andrememberthatthisarena,thishallofsmokeandmirrorswerein,wedidntbuildit--thegovernmentbuiltit.Thegovernmentputthosemirrorsup;putthesmokeinthehall.Theyhavedeliberatelymadeitverydifficult,ifnotimpossible,tohaveaclear
understanding.Thatwasagovernmentpolicy.
Wehavetoendthatpolicy,andDisclosureistheendofthatpolicy.AndthatsDisclosurewithacapitalD;aformalacknowledgementoftheETpresence.Thatsit,nothingmore.
Disclosurewithasmalldhasbeengoingonforalongtime,noquestion,anunfoldingofinformation,citizenprocess,misinformation;allmixedin.Thatssmalld.Allright?Thatsbeenhappening,absolutely,noquestion.
BUTinspiteofallthatdisclosurewithasmalld,dotheuniversitiesteachit?Doesthepressproperlycoverit?Doesthe
governmentfundit?Dowehave,youknow,thinktanksdevotedtoit?No,wedont.
Whatgovernmentdoes--matters.WhatObamaandtheadministrationdoes--matters;and,sotheyhavetoact.Youcantignoregovernment,right?
Youknow,peoplewantpeaceandtheysay:Well,Iwantpeace,sothegovernmentdoesntmatter...untilthegovernmentcomesandtakesyoursonoryourdaughterandsendsthemofftowar.
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Whatgovernmentdoes--matters;so,wehavetoengageit,andwehavetodealwiththeprocess,usingtheinstitutionswehave,togettheproperresult.
BD:YouallareawareofthePandorasBoxstory,thelegendgoingbacktoancientGreece.PandorasBoxhadalltheFuriesinHelloftheentireworld,lockedandsealed.YouopenPandorasBoxjustalittletinybitandallHellbreaksloose,becauseyoucantreleasejustalittletinybit.
Ifyoureleasejustonelittletinybit,youvegotamillionquestionsandamillionpissedoffpeoplewantingtoknowtherestofit.AndIdontbelievethatourgovernment,atthismoment,isinanypositiontoevenbegintotellthemtherestofthestory.
Becausedoyouknowabouttheimpactontheology?YouknowwhattheBrookingsReportsaid.YoutrytotellthepeopleouttherethatJesusofNazarethwasoneofThem[pointsup]andtheevidenceweveallhadis:Yes,hewas.Now,howdoyoutellthattofundamentalists?
RF:Excuseme...
BD:LookattheMuslimworldrightnow.
RF:TheBrookingsReport,thatwasin1961orsomething.
BD:61.Yes.
RF:Imean,nowwehave2009.
BD:Robert,itsstillnational
RF:[unclear]...asakindofrepresentativeoftheyoungergeneration...
BD:...policy,sadlyenough.
RF:Okay,okay,okay.Maybe,youknow,inmanygenerationsitsaproblemformanygenerations,obviously.ButIhavetotellyou.Ibelongtoayoungergeneration.Iknowmanypeoplemyageandyounger.Forthemitsnotsounimaginable.Itsnotso...
Whenyousay:Youknow,theAmericangovernment,orcertainpeopleinthemilitary-industrialcomplex,coveredthatup.
Theysay:Allright.Yeah,yeah,Icanimaginethat.Youknow,its
notabigdealforthem.[laughs]
[everyonetalksatonce]
KC:Okay.Letme...Hello,hello,hello!Letmeinterrupt.Weregoingontheair.Bill,areyouannouncing?Areweontheair?Weshouldbeontheairatthemoment,accordingtothetime.
[KerryandBilldiscusscomputersetupforradiobroadcast]
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KC:Goahead,youguys.Letscontinuethis.Theyoungergeneration...youwanttosaysomething,Brian?
BOL:Yes.WhatIwantedtosayisthatitseemslikethattheproblem...youknow,weobviouslyhaveatigerbythetailhere,[BobDeanlaughs]andthatweallrecognizethatangerisaninitialreactiononceDisclosurereallyunfoldswithacapitalD.
So,ifwecanrecognizethis,andourso-calledadversaries,letssaythekeepersofthesecrets,cansitdownatatableandnegotiatethereleaseoftheinformationwhere,intheirperception,itwouldnthurtthemthatmuchjustmaybethatstheopening.
Itseemslikethatsthenuboftheissueisthatthecover-upandtheencrustationofcover-upsgoingonforthelast65yearshascreatedthisPandorasBoxwhich,ifopened,couldleadtoaprocessoftruthandreconciliationwhichwould,justperhaps,launchusintothenewparadigm,whichissobadlyneededanyway,inordertosaveourpreciousplanet.
SothatsthewayIdliketoseeit,istoprovidethebasisforsomesortofnegotiation,orprocessoftruthandreconciliation,tobeabletocreatecertainlevelsofamnestyand...
BD:Youwantustoforgivethesinners,doyou?[laughs]
BOL:Well,eventually,yes.
PAOLAHARRIS(PH):Itsgoingtohappen.
[vigorouscrosstalk]
SB:Wedoitallthetime.
VOICE:Yes,Imsorry.
KC:Thefilmmakershavesomething
VOICE:Yeah,IjusthaveonethingthatIwanttoputoutthere,becauseweretalkingabouttwoscenariosatatime,becausetherealthing--whatsgoingon,thecover-up?Imafraid,certainofthethirdphenomena,itsthecounterfeit.Imean,theblackoperations,themanifestations,thefalseSecondComing,themanufacture...
KC:ProjectBlueBeam.Weregettingtothat,actually,yes.
VOICE:[continuesspeakingbutisinaudible]
KC:Okay.Thefilmmakerswouldliketoustoaddressthat.Yes.Thatsimportant.Okay.Weregoingthere.Actually,justsoyouguysknow...
BD:False...
KC:Yeah,oneofthe...yeah.WhatweretalkingabouthereiswhenIsaid:Whynow?Partofthequestionis:Whynowinthisjuncture?Andwhatisit,aspartofthepossibleagenda,whatthesepeoplehaveinmind?
Becausetheydontdothingswithoutsortofaself-servingangle
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involved,anditmaybethattheyrepreparingthegroundworkforwhatwillbeafalsealieninvasionscenario.
NP:Illspeaktothis,becauseIveactuallybeenaccusedofplayingapartinthis.
KC:Ohgreat.Goahead.
NP:IfyouGooglethephrasefalse-flagalieninvasion,youllobviously,asyourewellaware,findalotofmaterial--quitealotofitincreasinglybeingpeggedon2012,whichhasbeenlinkedin.Specifically,insomeinstances,peggedontheOlympicGamestobeheldinLondon,andpossiblysomeeventsupposedlytakingplaceatmaybetheclosingceremony.
Now,myinvolvementwiththisisthat,inamongstmyfreelancejournalismwork,Ivedone,Iguess,abouttwoorthreethings,whichkindofwentontheradarwithcertainpeople,ifyoullexcusethepun.
ThefirstwasIwroteanop-edintheNewYorkTimes,whichwentoutunderthetitleUnidentifiedFlyingThreats.Thatwentout,Ithink,onJuly29thlastyear[2008].Averyinterestingthingfortheconspiracytheoristswasrightunderneathifyoureoneofthese
peoplewholooksforjuxtapositionofheadlineswasanunrelated(orwasit?)articleentitledCanObamaHandletheOffense?Soalotofpeoplereadsomethingintothat.
IalsodoalotofworkwithTheSun;Britainsbest-sellingnationaldailynewspaper.Iworkedonastory,whichwentoutundertheheadlineShootDowntheUFO.That,then,gotpickedupbyFoxNewsand,assomeofyoumayhaveseen,IwasinterviewedbyBillHemmeronthatshowtwoorthreemonthsback.
So,Imsortofsoundingalittlebitdefensivehere,because,whenyoumentionthingslikeBlueBeamandFalse-FlagAlienInvasion,
becauseofthosemediathingsIvedone,Iveactuallybeenputintheframeasoneoftheguiltyparties,andIdliketoabsolutelyassureeveryonethatImnot.
BD:Youreinnocent?
NP:Yeah.Iminnocent.CanIgetbacktoaquestion,whichyouaskedabouthalfanhourago,whichIdidntgettoanswer,andImgoingtogiveyouananswer.
KC:Sure,absolutely.
NP:YoumentionedPetePeterson,whoIdontknowandhaventmet.No
reasontodoubthisbonafides,oranything.ButmypersonalanswertothequestionyouaskedofPaola:Willthishappen?IsNo.
Isaythatforaboringstatisticalreason,really,butonethatcanbeverified.
Outofallthepredictionsofeither(A)somesortoflandingorundeniablealienintervention,or(B)allthepredictionsofDisclosure...outofalltheonesthathavebeenmade,agrandtotal
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ofzerohaveactuallycometopass.
Sojustfromaboringstatisticalpointofview,Imreasonablyconfidentthatthedeadline...IthinkyouweresayingNovember,thisyear?
KC:Well,actuallyweweresayingendoftheyear.
NP:It,Ithink,willcomeandgowithoutincident.
CanIpickuponpointalsothatIthinkBobmade?Itssomethingthatsbeenrunningthroughalotof...orallofusseemtoleaveoutlackoftrustingovernment.Illjustthrowthisoutinawiderpointofview.
SomethingRobertsaid,thatpeopleofhisgeneration,ifthiswasunpackedtothemthattheydbeenliedtowouldjustsay:Yeah.Sowhat?Wethoughtthatwasprobablytruethesethingsweregoingon.Weneverdidtrustthegovernment.
ImfromtheUK.TrustingovernmentintheUKatthemoment,onjustabouteveryissue,isatanall-timelow.IdontknowhowmanyoftheBritishnewsstorieshavemadethemedia,butourmembersof
parliamenthavebeenmakingbogusclaimsforexpensesandthemostoutrageousthingsthatwe,thetaxpayers,havebeenpayingfor.Someofthemhaveresigned.Mosthavenot.
Justtodayitwasannouncedonthenews,possibly100,000casesofswineflujustinthelastweek,accordingtosomestatisticalanalyses.
BD:IntheUK?
NP:IntheUKalone.Now,thatsatthehighendoftheestimatescale,andestimatesofdeathsareabout100fromthat,dependingonwhosefiguresyoulistento.
Mypointis,theotherstorythatcameouttodaywasthattheHelpLine,whichhasnowgonelivethisisthegovernmentHelpLine,arguablyoneofthemostimportantissuesaffectingtheBritishpeople.ThepeoplewhoaremanningtheHelpLinesarenotmedicallytrained.Someofthemwerenoteveninterviewedforthosejobs.And,guesswhat?Itdoesntmatteranyway,becausethewebsitesdown,becausetoomanypeoplearetryingtologonandgetthrough.
SoIthinkalotofdiscussions...IknowIvegoneslightlyofftopic;but,actually,youknow,Iprobablyhavent,becauseIthinkfaithingovernmentandinstitutionsisatanall-timelow.Soifitdoestranspiretheyveliedtousaboutthis,yes,itsamassivelie,
butpeoplewontbesurprised.
AW:Itcantgetanyworse.
SB:Thepointofpride
BD:Letmeremindyouofsomething.IknowthatintheUKtheydonttrusttheirpoliticians.Wedonttrustourpoliticians.Butyourpoliticianscausedascenein1776andlookwhathappened.Now,thatcouldtellyouwhatpoliticiansscrewingthingsupcando!
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NP:Yes,but[overtalk]
BD:Revolution,in1776.Thatspirit,Nick,letmereallytellyou,andletmereassertthis.ThatsamedamnspiritexistsintheAmericanpeopletoday,andtheyareascapablein2009ofdoingwhattheydidin1776.ThatswhatImconcernedabout.
KC:Yeah.Ithinkthatsimportant.Absolutely.Asamoderator,Iwanttosayherethattheresayouthandagepartofthisstory.Becausetheanger,Imgoingtosay,isinthepeoplewhovebeenaroundalongtimewiththecover-up.Theyouthhavenot.Okay?Atleastnotinthisbody.
AndIwanttosaythatangerisnotsomuchanissueoverthisparticularthingthecover-upasitisthatinacertainsensetheyouthwillturnonadime,often,willunderstand,andtheyrebeingsoldmoviesouttherethatolderpeopledontevengoto.
Igotothem,soIknowtheyreoutthere.Iknowtheyvebeentaughtalotofinformation,secretinformation,intheguiseofwhatlookslikeachildishstory.
So,Ihavetosaythat,insomeways,itstruewhatyouresaying,Rob.Itsnotgoingtoblowthemaway,ifsomePresidentgetsupthereandsays:Hello,ETsreal.Ofcoursetheyrereal!Thatsgoingtobetheattitude.Iknowthatwouldmyattitude,especiallyifIwasthatage,andIknowthatitsgoingtobetrueofalotofkids.
But,theresanothersidetothis,andthisisalsovalid,anditisthatthereareAmericanspreparing,aswespeak,forthedissolutionofwhatis,inessence,theAmericangovernment.Okay?
Thatthecracks...theshipisleakingandhasbeenleakingforavery
longtime;thatpatriotsandpeoplethathavecomefromthemilitaryarefedup;thattheresahugecontingenceofthatgoingon.
AndthatthisDisclosureissueoftruthsingeneralthattheyvebeenlyingonthemoney,thefinancialendofthings;thesociety,thewaytheyvebeenbroughtup,thethingstheyresupposedtodowiththeirlives...
Theparadigm,theoldparadigm,iscrumbling.And,withinthecrumblingandthedissolution,thecontrollersknowdamnwell[that]ifyoujusttakeonemorethingandtipthestrawoffthecamelsbackitsgoingtobetheDisclosureissueintermsofETs.
Therewillbechaos.Theyrecausingchaos.Infact,thatswhattheywant,Iwouldsuggest,andyoucanalladdressthis,ifyouwill.Buttheyrenotlookingforthingstogosmoothlyrightnow.
Actually,theywantchaosbecausetheywanttoeliminatealargenumberofthepopulation,andtheviruses,andthechemtrails,andwhatsgoingon,iscontributingtothat.
[totheaudience]Goahead...
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[unclearcommentfromoffstage]
BD:OurDirectorofHomelandSecurityrecentlywentpubliconnationalmediaandexpressedherviewthatthereturningveteransfromIraqandAfghanistanarenottobetrusted,becausetheyknowhowtouseguns.Andtheyrecomingback,andtheylookaround,andtheyrepissedoff.
NowthiswomanusedtobetheGovernorofArizona.ShesnowDirectoroftheDepartmentofHomelandSecurity.Shewentonnationalpublicationandsaid:Theseguysaredangerous,youknow?Theyknowhowtousegunsandtheyrecomingbackandtheyreangry.
Well,shetouchedthetipoftheiceberg,letmetellyou.Whothehelldoyouthinkareouttherebuyingthegunsandammunition?AlotofthemaretheguyscomingbackfromIraqandAfghanistan.
KC:Well,Ihavetosaythat...well,Ishouldntnamenames,butsomeofourwhistleblowershaveactuallysaidtheexactsamething.
BD:Yeah.Well...
KC:Andtheyare,themselves,preparing.Letsputitthatway.
BD:Iknowthat.
BOL:Andtheyreyoungpeople.
BD:Well,tome,anyoneunder50isyoung,youknow?[laughter]
KC:Butmostofourwhistleblowersarenotyoung.Theyreactuallyolderthantheage50.
SB:Areweonradioyet,byanychance?
KC:[toBill]Whatsgoingon?
[BillandKerryconversere:broadcastsituation;Billconfirmsthepanelisstreamingliveaudio.]
KC:Okay.Soletscontinuewiththis.
SB:Iwouldliketocommenthere,becausethererealotofthingsbeingsaidthatIdontagreewithandIthinkIneedtomakeapoint,lestIbeaccusedofagreeing.
IamremindedofJeffersonsquote,that,onoccasion,theTreeof
Libertyneedstobefertilizedwiththebloodofrevolution.But,thatsaid,Idontbelievetheresgoingtobearevolution.IdontbelievetheresgoingtobeviolenceinthewakeofDisclosureatall.Idontthinktheresgoingtobeasubstantialpanic.Idontthinkanythingsgoingtohappeninthatregard.
AsIvesaid,IbelievethatDisclosurewillbetwothingsinone.Itwillbethemostprofoundeventinhumanhistory,anditwillbethemostanti-climacticeventinhumanhistorythanksto60-someyears
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ofinformationuponinformation,andmedia,andeverythingelse.Imean,wehavesaturatedtheworldwiththisissue.AndtheETs,ofcourse,havehelpedbyconstantlycomingandgoing.
Intheworldtoday,themost-knownacronymisUSA.Thesecondmost-knownacronymintheworldtoday,amongsteverybody,allsixbillion:UFO.Everywhere.Andthen,theaveragepopulationofIran,thirty-three.[Ednote:meaningaverageage]
So,look,theresgoingtobesomeangrypeople,andtheresgoingtobesomepeoplethathavegrudges,andthereareissuestoaddress.But,thefirstthingthatwillhappenwiththeacknowledgementoftheETpresenceistheworldwillwanttoknow:What,Why,Where,andWhen.Tellmemore.Tellmemore.
Theissuesandthegrievanceswillbeshovedcompletelyaside.Andforthenextweeks,months,orwhatever,therellbesomesortofinformationexchange.
Thegovernmentisnotstupid.Theyrenotgoingtocomeoutinitiallywiththestuffthatsgoingtomakethemlookawfulandflammable.
BD:Someofthemare.Ivemetthem,dammit.
SB:Othergovernmentsmaychooseto...
BD:Someofthemarestupid,becauseIvemetthem.Nickwilltellyou,someoftheirpoliticiansarestupid.
SB:Wellhopefullytheywontdothat.Iwouldthinkthattheywillcomeoutwiththosethingswhicharerelativelypositiveandreinforcing,andovertime,wewillgetintosomeofthewilderandcrazierstuff.
Theyvehad60yearstoplanthis.Itsnotgoingtobearandomevent,unlesstheETsforceit.
AndIsaythis,because,look--Irespectallofmycolleaguesopinions,believeme.IrespectBobtremendously.But,feelingasIdo,Idontwanttobegoingtothepublicontheair,andonradioandtelevision,andtellingmillionsofpeoplethereregoingtobebloodinthestreets,theresgoingtobearevolution.
PH:No,Idontwanttodothattopeopleeither.
SB:IfIthoughtthat,byGod,Idsayit.But,Ithinkwehavetocircumspecthere,becausewearedealingwithaprofoundthing.
PH:IagreewithSteve.
SB:Thererealotofreasonsforpeoplebeingangrywithgovernmentrightnow.WithoutanyETs,youstillhavelotsofproblems,andweregoingtostillhavethoseproblemsthedayafterDisclosure.But,ultimately,whenthegovernmentstartstellingthetruth,thingsarelikelytogetbetter.
AndthelastthingIllsayisthis:WhentheVietnamWarended,oneofthefirstquestionsthat,Ithink,wasposedtotheVietnamWaractivistswas:Allofyouranti-warstuffalloftheseyears--can
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youtellusthatyoushortenedtheVietnamWarbyasingleday?
Andtheansweris:Itwasntreallyclear.Maynot.Probablydidnt.
Andweregoingtobeaskedthesamequestion:Yourattledourcagesforalloftheseyears.DidyoubringDisclosureonedaysoonerthanthegovernmentwouldhavedoneitanyway?
Andtheansweris:Idontknow;verylikelynot.
Butitdoesntmatter,becauseallofthishasraisedthepublicawarenessandbroughttheseissuesoutandspreadthemaroundtheglobe,ontheNetandeveryway,sohundredsofmillionsofpeoplearegettingasense,anunderstanding,anawareness.So,whenitdoeshappen,theyregoingtobealittlemoreready.
And,ifsomefoolinsomegovernmentsomewheresays:Letstakeadvantageofthisbigdeal.Letsconcoctsomething.Ithinkifwegetanalienwarthingoutthere,weregoingtobeabletospendtrillionsofdollars,andIvegotcompanieswecanfund
IthinktheInternet,andyou,andyourcolleaguesaregoingtoshreditinabout24hours,breakitoutintheopen,andthesepeoplewill
alreadybeontheirwaytojail.
WeareraisingpublicawarenesstogetDisclosure.Whenitllhappen?Hopefullysoon.But,itsnotsimplyaboutDisclosure;itsaboutunderstanding.
KC:Okay...
BD:Wedonthaveenoughjailroomtohandleallofthegovernmentpeople,liketheguysintheHouseandtheSenate,whoshouldgotojail.
SB:WellputemintheFEMAcamps.[laughter]
KC:Allright.Thisisgoodenergy!LetsletAlfredhavehissayhere.
AW:Idliketojumpinhereonacoupleofpointstomake;firstofall,tomakethepointofandraisetheawarenessthatweretalkingaboutaplanetaryissueandnotanissueoftheU.S.
AndStevementionedIran.Well,itjustsohappened;IwanttomakeanannouncementthatIwascontactedbyIranianNationalTelevision,andtheywillbecallingintomorrowat5pmIlltakeitonmycellphonetointerviewmeonthesubjectoftheextraterrestrial
presenceontheMoon.
So,thisisbreakingthroughallofthenationalstereotypesthatwehave.
Ifwelookattheerathatwerein,itsaneraofGalacticconsciousness,andthatismovingbeyondbeingSpaniards,orbeingAmericans,orCanadians,andmovingbeyondevenbeingcitizensofplanetEarth--tobeingcitizensofanorganizedandpopulatedGalaxy.ThatswheretheleadingedgeofExopoliticsis,really.
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Now,jumpingtothesecondpoint,thisthingaboutthedissolutionoftheUS--IcanrememberbeingafuturistattheCenterfortheStudyofSocialPolicyatStanfordResearchInstitutein1977,thesameyearthatweweredoingtheCarterWhiteHouseextraterrestrial-proposedstudy.
Itwascommonparlance-inthehalls-oftheplantobreakuptheUSintofiveorsixcontiguousregions;WashingtonandOregonwasEcotopia,youknow?[laughs]Andtherewerevariousnamesfortheotherregions.
So,Ithinkthatthoseofuswhocanappreciatethattherearetrans-nationalforcesrunningsomeoftheshadowgovernmentelementsoftheUS,thewholeplanforthedissolutionoftheUSnowisreallyatrialballoonthathasbeenintheplanning,inthethink-tanks,forover40years:Ohyeah,letsdissolvetheUSand,youknow,wedoaSovietUniononit,andthenwegoontosomeothermarket.
IthinkIdliketoreallyappealtothepatriotismofRobertDeanhereandtowhatStevensaidthat,onsomeesotericlevels,theUnited
StatesissupposedtobeanexpressionoftheEnlightenment;kindofaninheritoroftheEnlightenmentofthedayswhenEgyptandMarswereonecivilizationwehavesomeproofofthatnowfromtheMarsRoverphotographs.
So,IwouldtendtoresistidentifyingwithdisintegratingtheUSnow,becauseIthinkitspartofamanipulation.
Finally,IdliketoputmyvoteIcouldbewrongmoreonthe2002RoperReport,ratherthanontheBrookingsReport.Thatmeansthat,whenqueried,85percentofpeoplewerecompletelycongruent,were
totallycool,withthespecificquestion:Ifthegovernmentweretoannounceanextraterrestrialpresence,howwouldyoureact?
Andeighty-fivepercentsaid:Itwouldntbothermeabit.
Ithinkthattheoppositecouldbetrue,andthatisthattherewouldbecelebrations.Youhaveevenactivistsinourcampwhotalkabouthavingrockextraterrestrialconcertstowelcomeinthisage.ItskindofafallingoftheBerlinWall,anditsmoreofabirth,ratherthanadeathoftheoldsystem.
TheresalwaysbeenkindofabifurcationinExopolitics,which,Ithink,MichaelandPaolaandIweretalkingabouttoday.Thatis,do
wefocusontheshortGraysandtheReptiliansandtheirreportedplansforexterminationoftwo-thirdsofthehumanracewiththeH1N1virus,orsomeothervirus?Forwhichthereissomepossibleevidencetostartthinkingthatway.Youknow,theresbeenresearchinformallythathassurfacedherethattheremaybenegativeextraterrestrialinfluencebehindthechemtrailsphenomenon,whichIthinkhasbeenmentionedinsomecontextsaspossiblycarryingaprecursoroftheH1N1virus.
Or,doweconcentrateonthepositiveleadingedgeoftheevidence
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thattheresastrategicallianceofethicalupper-dimensionalextraterrestrials--theWhiteHats--Ithink,thatpeopleweretalkingabout?
Icouldeasilyseeascenario,ifwehavethegovernmentthathasthecouragetodoitandIdontknowwhethertheObamaadministrationthathasntbeenabletocloseGuantanamo,whichisablatantwarcrimecoulddothat.
Buttheycouldspinittosay:Look,fornationalsecurityreasons,wehavemaintaineddiplomaticrelations,andwevehadstrategicallianceswiththefollowing...and,fornationalsecurityreasons,wevehadtowithholdthatfromyoufor60years,forthefollowingreasons.
Andtherecouldbeplausiblereasonsthere,includingmilitaryattacksbytheGrays.
Ithinkthatapopulationwouldbemoreinreliefandcelebration,ratherthanreactingviolentlyandwithdespair.
SB:Alfred,whentheUniversityofExopoliticsisfinallyfounded,
wereonlygoingtoletyouteachthegraduatecourses.[laughter]
BOL:Yeah,Iseewhatsgoingonrightnowisthistwo-edgedsword.Thereis,ontheonehand,theperceptionthatangercouldbereleased.Thatwould,obviously,beaperceptionsharedbythosekeepingthesecrets;then,ontheotherhand,atimeofgreatcelebrationforthenewparadigm.Iseeitasaconcomitantprocessthatbothoftheabovewillbehappeningandtherewillbeaperiodofchaos.Itsatimeofcrisisandopportunity,andagrouplikethiscanmediatethosediscussionsandbringitoutintotheopen.
NP:IthinkStevesrightwithhisWhen,What,Whykindofpoint.You
know,inmyexperienceofthemedia,ifanannouncementwasmade,almosttheveryfirstthingisgoingtobe:Whatdotheylooklike?Canweseeapicture?Wheredotheycomefrom?Whatstheirhomelooklike?
Werenotgoingtogetintothesedeeperissuesbeforewevedonetheverybasictabloidstuff.
PH:IagreewithSteve,too.IwanttogoonrecordassayingIwillnotbuyintotheanger,everybody-shooting-each-otherridiculousscenario.[laughs]Ithinkthatpeopleareintelligent,andIthinkthereisathirdthingmighthappen:Somepeoplemaybedontcare.
Because,Ihavespokentoagroupofpeoplethatjustdontgiveadarn,whetheritsannounced,itsnotannounced.Itsnotgoingtoaffecttheirreality.So,itsnotjustrejoicingorletsruninthestreetandkillpeopleandbeangry.
Theresawholelevelofpeoplethathavetoldme:Frankly,Paola,itdoesntaffectmeatall.Andwehavetorememberthosepeople.
NP:Well,Paola,thisprobablyisnttherightthingtosaytoyou,butmaybethisisagoodtimetoquoteJohnAlexander.
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PH:Oh,yes.Iknowwhatyouregoingtosaynow.[laughs]Yes.
NP:Didnthesay,youknow,didntheendapresentationwithallthistalkingaboutDisclosureandsay:Well,JoeBlow,JoeSix-pack,whatever,hisquestionis:DoesanyofthismeanIdonthavetogotoworktomorrow?
KC:Actually,thatsthepoint.Itdoes.Itquitepossiblycouldmeanthat.Andthatsactuallygettingtotherootofthematter.
Whatyouaretalkingaboutisarevolutioninaparadigm.Itmaynotmeanbloodinthestreets,exactly,butitcouldquitepossiblymeanarebellioninconsciousnessthatresultsinpeoplebecomingco-creatorsofthisworldinaconsciousway,suchthattheydontgotoworktomorrow,becausetheyrealizethatoneofthethingsthatcomesoutofUFOsisfreeenergy.
ItopensupthatPandorasBoxsuchthatthepossibilities...becausetheETscomefromaveryadvancedscientificfuture,andthatmuchisobvious.Theyrevisitingus,theyredealingwithourgovernment,thegovernmentsbeendealingwiththem.Thisistheothersideofthat
story,is:Whatdoesitmeanforus?
Andcertainly,intheeyesofthePowersThatBe,willDisclosurehappen?Because,whatitmeansisthatitsarelinquishingofpoweronacertainlevel.Iftheyarenotincompletecontrolofthisworld,becausetheydonthavethehighesttechnology,thehighestintelligence[and]theyrenotthemanontopanymore.Okay?Thenwhosontop?Andthatbecomesthequestion.
So,maybe,JoeSix-packdoesntrealizethatrightoff,butmaybehedoes.Maybe,onasubliminallevel,herealizesthecontrollersarenotincontrol,thatthegamehaschanged,thatitsthrownwideopen,
andthatallthingsaresuddenlypossible,andthatwecanreworkthisthing,andwecanalsotakedownthe...
AsJohnLennonwouldsay,thattherearenocountriesanymore,thattherearenobordersanymore;andthatwearehumansallofus;weareunited--allofus;thatweareOnePeople;andthatthesealiens--wholooklikeus--maybeourbrothersandsistersandfathersandancestors,whateveryouwanttosay.
Itchangestheentireparadigmineveryway.Itslikethecards...
wheredoestheexpansionend?Andthesearethepossibilities.So,whatIwouldsayisthatletstalkabout...
OnceyouopenthedoorofDisclosure,thereisasenseinwhichPandorasBoxwillopen,andthereisnolimittothequestionsthatcanbeasked.Notjustthepeople--likethisinthisroom--willbeaskingthosequestions,butthataveragepeoplewillbe.
MS:Ithinkthatweneedtokindofopenorexpandthevocabulary,
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becausewerekindofassumingthattheresgoingtobeatransitionfromsecrecyordenialtoDisclosure.Ithink,actually,weremissinganintermediatestep,whichisOpenness.TheresgoingtobeatransitionfromDenialtoOpenness;and,afterwevehaveOpennessforafewyears,thenwellhaveDisclosure.
AtthesecretUNmeetingsthatImentioned,thatoccurredinFebruarylastyear,oneofthethingsthathadbeenagreeduponbythenationaldelegatesthatwereattending,wasthat,beginningin2009,theywouldbeginaprocessofinternationalopennessontheseissues.
Whenyoulookatwhatsbeenhappeningoverthisyear,itslike,well,whatwereseeingisnotsomuchDisclosure;whatwereseeingisOpenness.Wereseeingfilesbeingreleased.Wereseeingthemediatacklingtheseissuesinanobjectiveway.Now,Ithink,thatishowyouwillpreparethegroundworkforDisclosure,maybein2011,or2012.
So,Ithinkweneedtokindofacceptthatthepeoplethataremovingforwardareveryrational.Theyrenotgoingtotrytopanicpeople.Theyregoingtotrytopreparepeoplethroughavery-well-thought-outprocessofreleasingmoreandmorestuff,gettinguniversitiestodeal
withtheseissuesinasystematicway...
BR:Therearealotofresearchers--nowturnedtojournalists--beingallowedtodothiswork.
MS:Exactly.So,Ithink,weregoingtohavethisprocessofOpenness,maybe,fortwoyears,threeyears,accelerating.And,then,eventually,weregoingtohaveDisclosure.
Whatyouresaying,likeattheendofthisyear,2009,youknow,byjustreleasingthisCongressionalResearchReport,thatsnotsomuchDisclosure,becausetheydidntfindtheanswersforCarter.Butwhat
theydidwas,theypreparedhimfor:thisiswhatmightbegoingon.
SotheresanOpennessprocessatworkhere,andIthinkthatiswhatwearenowwitnessingandareinthemidstof.
SB:Well,iftheythinktheycanstretchthisoutforthreemoreyears,myhatsofftoem--butIlltakethebet.Right?Imean,whatwasthatphrase?IfyouwanttomakeGodlaugh,tellHeryourplans?Right?
SEVERALVOICES:Right.Yeah,right.
SB:Theyvehad62yearstoplanoutsomething,right?Sothisidea:
Okay,nowwellgothroughenlightyouknow;nah,Idontthinkso.But,letmecommentonsomethingthatKerrysaid,becauseImgoingtogetintothisalittlebitonSunday.Withoutgettingintotheoutcomes,predictinganyoutcomes,IdobelieveandImspeakingfromamorenutsandboltssenseIhavethishunchthatDisclosuremediapresencewilltrigger,verypossibly,thegreatesteraofreforminhistory;goingbacktotheSumer,totheflood.
Inotherwords,itsgoingtocreateakindofcascadingeffectin
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which,becauseofthefactthattheworldsattentionwillsuddenlybefocusedprettymuchinthesamedirection,throughbillionsofeyesfocusinginthesamedirection,theneverythingsortofistossedupintheair,everythinggoesonthetablesuddenlywhichhappensonceinawhile...
Thatthereformistmovementsthatareoutthereandtheresreformistmovementseverywhere,right?Youjustdonthearaboutthem,buttheyreouttherestrugglingalong,workingoutoftheirbasementswillsuddenlybegivenlife,andenergyandmoney.Andyouregoingtosee,literally,asystemic,Ithink,spectral,reformthatwillbestaggeringinitssizeandscope.
Now,willitleadustowonderfulthings?Willitallworkout?WillitbeliketheFrenchRevolutionyoustartoffwithagoodideaand,thenextthingyouknow,youreloppingheads?Idontknow.
But,Iknowthattheopportunityisthere.And,forme,thatsoneofthereasonstokeepgoinganddothis.Itsnotjust:Oh,theylltellustheETsarehere.
Wehaveaworldthathasbasicallybeenshovingstuffundertherugforacoupleofcenturiesputtingthingsinthecloset,stickingthemintheattic,nottakingcareofbusiness,notdealingwithwhat
hastobedoneandthatwasgoingtocatchupwithus.
Ithinkthisisthetriggerthatsuddenlysays:Okay,wevegottocleanoutthebasement;cleanouttheattic;wevegottocutthelawn;wevegottotakecareofbusiness;wevegottocleanupthesecretempire;wevegottostartfilmingtheBilderbergmeetings;wevegottotosstheSkullandBonesidiotsofftheYalecampus.
Wevegottodoalotofthings.Weneedmonetaryreform.WeneeddoctrinalreformintheChristianchurch,theIslamicfaith.Wevegottotakecareofstuff,becausealotofstuffisstupid,right?Itsridiculous.Butwerelockedup.Afterthelastfewthousandyears,werejustcompletelyalllockedupandcantmove.
Andso,yougototheCongressforsomesimplethingandtheCongressisgoing:Icantmove.AndyougototheIslamicfaithandsay:Look,weneedalittlechangehere.Weregoingtohaveaworldthreat--Wecantact.CatholicChurchcantchangeitspolicyonbirthcontrol.Wecantgetanythingdone.
AllofasuddenBOOM--intothis,comesthebiggesteventofalltime.So,whathappensafterthatisuptous.Ijustlookatmyjobastryingtohelppeoplelookandseeand,maybe,bepartofthepost-Disclosureworld.
Butwe,hopefully,earnedourrighttobeonstage;hopefully,weve
earnedtherighttobeheard--butnotnecessarilyso.
Themainstreammaycomeandsay:Look,youguyshavebeenbuggingusaboutthisfor20years.Yeah,youwereright.Nowgoaway.Wehateyou.Right?[laughter]WevegotPhDsfromHarvardandYaleandIvebeenworkingwiththegovernmentfor40yearsandIreallyknowallaboutthisstuff.You-allgoaway.
Wemayhavetostandtogetherhard,becausethemainstreamwillwantustogoaway.Weregoingtohavetofightforourpost-Disclosure
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opportunitiesandpositions,whichiswhyIhopethatthetensionsanddisagreementsthatexist--particularlybetweentheExopoliticalfieldandtheoldguardUFOlogicalfield--dontgetworse.
NP:Isthisthingworthaddressinghere?
SB:Ohyeah.Sure.
PH:Itcouldbeworthaddressing,butcouldIaddsomethingtothat?Iwastold,bypeopleintheIntelligenceCommunity,whentheytriedtohandthephoneovertoPaulHellyer,ex-MinisterofDefence,becausetheyweregoingtotalktohimaboutkeepingquiet.YouknowPaulHellyer,ex-MinisterofDefence?[He]readCorsosbookthatthiswasaveryserioussituationweneededtodealwith.
WewereinHawaiiandthephonewasgoingrightacrossme,andtheysaidtome:Paola,youpeopledonotknowwhatyouredoing.Wevegotithandled.
SB:WhosaidthistoPaul?
PH:TheIntelligenceCommunity.Idontwanttomentionthenames,but
theywerepeoplethatIknowthatareworkingonthatsideofthefenceintheUFOquestion.
SB:Right.
PH:Theyareverywell-knownpeopleandtheirconnectionwithmoney,andsoforth;and,whentheytriedtohandthephonetoPaulHellyerandIwouldletthephonegoby,Isaidhesonhishoneymoon,youcanttalktohimtheysaidtome:Paola,youpeopleareamateurs.Youdonotknowwhatyouretalkingabout.Wehaveithandled.
Now,thewords:wehaveithandled.Andmybrainwasgoing:Whatdoyouhavehandled?[laughter]Whodoyouthinkyouredealingwith?
SB:Yeah,theyhaveitsowell-handledthatwehavetwofineTradeCenterbuildingsinNewYorkjuststandingtallthere.Youcangoseethemrightnow.
PH:Andsohenevergotthephonecallthattime.Hegotitlater,becausetheywantedtomakesuretheytoldhimtocalmdownandstopspeaking.
KC:Okay.But,Ihaveaquestionhere.Ihaveaquestionthatsgoingtoblowthisthingwideopen.
BR:Uh-oh.
KC:Actually,itstwo-pronged,butone:WhatifDisclosureistheonlythingthatcanhappenpriortoarealinvasionscenariothatsbeengoingon,whilewerehereontheplanet,thewholetime?
SB:Thenitwouldbea...
KC:Whatif...
SB:Andit...
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KC:Whatifthedaysarenumberedforthatscenario,thatsrealImpositingitasreal.And,whatifthereisonly,asourrecentwitnessissaying,theresonlyaboutthreeyearsleftonthisplanetbefore--ifwecontinueattherateweregoing--theresno,Idontknow,oxygen;thewholethingistrashed?
Now,whatifwereactuallylivingatimelinethatdoesntjustgoout,stretchingoutthereforallthesedifferenteducationalprocessestotakeplace,butweveactuallyreachedakindofEndGame,inwhichhumanityhasnochoice?Thatachoicehastobemade,andsomepeoplehavedecidedtheyregoingtomakethatchoiceforus?
Whatif?
SB:Well,Kerry,everybodyhastodie.Iwouldratherdieknowingthetruthofthisworld,thandiewithaheadfullofgovernmentlies.
BR:Thatsagood[overtalk].
KC:Okay.ImsayingDisclosurehappens;Disclosureishappening;itshappeningrightheretoday--butwhatImsuggestingissomething
thathasntbeentalkedabout,andisnevertalkedabout,okay?
Wehaveafalse-flagalieninvasion,ontheonehand,thatthegovernment...Because,IdontknowifpeopleouttherehaveseenmyvideosightingthatIhadatLakeGeneva,youknow,onenight,ofthisgiganticcraftthatwasclearly,atleasttome,beingdrivenbynotonlyourguys,butmaybeacoupleReptiliansatthehelm,sotospeak.
Imean,whatyouhavetodealwithisthatwemaybereaching...accordingtothewhistleblowerthatwestartedthiswholeconversation
with,positingthatObamascomingforwardwiththisinformation.Ontopofit,thatsameguy,whoisaninsiderwithwhathesays,isahigherclearancethanpresidents,okay?Hisaccessishigherthanthepresidenttoday.
Andheissaying,numberone:Prepare.
Numbertwo:Youvegotnoideawhattherealstoryis.Thatitsnotevenbeingtalkedabout--eveninourcircles.Westillhaventgottentotheverybottomofthestory.Itinvolvesthingslikerace;likeawhole,hugeslewofrobots,okay?ItinvolvestraveloutsidethisSolarSystemthatwevebeeninvolvedinwe,thegovernment.
Itinvolvessomanydifferentlevels...tosay:Theyvegotithandled.Well,theyjustmight.And,whattheyvegothandledisnotnecessarilysomethinginourfavor.
Youknow,Iknowwerelaughingandtherespossible,andtherecouldbealotofdifferentlevels.Theresafalse-flagidea,butthereareagendasatworkhereandtheremaybethingsthathavenotbeendreamedofhereinyourphilosophy.
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AndIhavetosaythatHenryDeaconissittingoutthereintheaudienceand,atanytimenow,[addressingHenry]becauseyouhaveacertaindegreeofknowing,yourewelcometojoinushere.But,whatwasdrilledintoHenryDeaconfromdayone,oncehejoinedtheseblackprojects,was:Wearethewolvesandtheyarethesheep.Okay?
Theresasensibilityabout...aperceptionabout...anattitudethatgoesbehindthat.AndthatisnottodowithbeingamemberoftheUnitedStatesitsbeingamemberofasecretgovernmentthatsworldwideandhasanagenda.Okay?Andisteachingtheirmilitaryemployeesacertainlineofreasoningthathastodowith:wehavenochoice.
ItsontheGeorgiaGuidestones:WeplantomakethisEarthabetterplaceandthewaywevegoingtodothat,guys,istoeliminate,whatever,two-thirdsofthepopulation?Itsaplan.
ItalsohastodowiththeirrelationshipswiththeseETsthatweresayingweknowarehere.Butdealshavebeenmade.Dealsinournamehavebeenmade,onthegoodsidewiththegoodguysandonthebadsidewithsomeofthebadguysiftheinformationthatweatCamelothavebeengettingistrue.
SoImjustthrowingthisopentomakeitalittlebitwider,alittle
bitmoreoutrageous,andjustseewhat
AW:Yeah.Ithankyouforwideningourconcept.IreallythinkthisiswhatExopoliticsisallabout.
Tobringthisbacktothetopicathand,whichisDisclosure,theresawaythattheDisclosuremovementisthemodernabolitionmovementbywhichslaverywasabolishedintheUnitedStatesbyamovement,anabolitionmovement,whichstartedintheUK,whichthenwentworldwide.Imean,werestillfeelingtheeffectsofit.
FundamentallytheDisclosuremovementshouldbeamovementtofreeus,theslaves,fromourmetaphysicalslaveryatbeingdeniedthetrueconceptofwhatsgoingon,andatstoppinganyplansforourprojecteddemise.Becausewearefreeandsovereignsoulsonthisplanet,inthisdimension,andcitizensoftheGalaxy,andnoothersovereignhastherighttodenythattous.
SotheDisclosuremovementreallytakeson,andhastotakeon,themoralforceandbreadthoftheabolitionmovementthat,incenturiespast,abolishedphysicalslavery.Thisisweretalkingaboutconsciousnessslavery.So,Ireallysupportyourbringinginthatwiderconceptofdiscussion.
SB:Isecondthatinthisregard,andIvebeentalkingaboutthisoflate.IbelievethatandHeglandtalksaboutthis,thePresidentialcandidatethatsplittheTMmovementIbelievethatthesuppressionofrealityfromthecitizensbythestatemeaning:tellingyouthat,say,thesunactuallygoesaroundtheEarthandnottheotherwayaroundisinfactaviolationofnaturallaw.Itviolatesafundamentallaw.Itsbeyondthelawofthestate.
Now,whatdoImeanbythat?Ithinkyouwouldagreethatifany
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nation,anycountry,wereto,say,passalawintheirlegislaturethatyoucouldmurderanybodyyouwantedtomeaning,justkillsomebody,itsokay,itslegalthattheywouldsay:No,no.Whateveryourconstitution,whatever,thatviolatesafundamentalnaturallawthatsbeyondthelawofman,inasense,andyoujustdontdothat.
Well,Ithinkthisisalsotrue.Sothisviolationofactuallydenyingtherealitytothepeople,thereisnolawthatcanjustifyit.Thereisnolawthatmancouldpassthatcanjustifyit.
So,werereallydealingwithsomethingatthattranscendentlevel.And,aslongasthatisthecase,itsvirtuallyatoxicpoisonthatjustseepsdownandcorruptseverything.Everythingyoucanthinkof.
So,ithastoend.Idontcarewhatthewhat-ifsare;itdoesntmatter.Itsimplyhastoend.Right?Andonceitsended,oncethatdenialofrealityisended,wewilltrytodealwithwhat-ifsinthebestwaywecan.
VOICEFROMAUDIENCE:[unclear,lotsofecho]thesecret...andjoinoncetogetherand...bringingthevalues,theUFOissue...theresno...thesecret...[continues,unclear]Whyarethegovernments
keepingsecretsfromthepublic?
BR:Thisisavoicefromtheaudience.Couldyoutelluswhoyouare,becauseyourenotoncamera?
VOICE:What?
KC:Ithinkyouhavetorepeatthequestion.
VOICE:[lotsofecho,barelyaudible]...Itsnoteasy.Ineverycountryintheworldtheyaregoingto...
[camerapanstomanholdingpapersignuptopanel]
KC:Stopthesecrecy.
BR:Topsecret.Oh,Iseethe...thatsverynice.
VOICE:Therearepeople,AlexJonesspeopleandmypeoplehavealotofhelp[unclear]andallarefocusedonthesecrets.Sothatwehavetogotothepointinwhich,denying,thestatestokeepsecretsfromthepublic.Inthismomentwecanjoinallthedifferentmovementsthatarefightinginitsownfightandwecanalltogether,theworldunitedindemonstration.
ThatiswhatIaskofyouall,tohelpmakeaworlddemonstrationin
whichthepublic,thehumankind,deniestothegovernmentstokeepsecretsfromthem....[continues,unclear,lotsofecho]andthenthereisdisparityall
BR:Yeah.Forthesakeofthecamera,pleasetelluswhoyouare.Nobodyknowswhoyouare.
VOICE:[unclear]IwroteabookcalledExtraterrestrialandalltheinformationtheygavetome.Iamasortofyou,butnowsayinSpanishthethingthatyouhavetohearusalso,becauseitsnot,as
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yousaid,somethingfromtheUSA.Youarenotgoingtowinthisfightalone.
BR:Absolutely.
SB:Thatswhywerehere.
VOICE:Weregoingtowin,allofustogether,allofhumankindandthething...[unclear]therearepeoplewhodontcareabouttherestofus.
PH:Whodontcare?[laughs]
VOICE:Theydontcare.But,howcanweapproachtothem?Becauseweareinahigherposition,wehavetoapproachtothem,notthemtous.SowegotoAlexJonesandsay:OK,whatwehaveincommon--whatsecrets?Dothegovernmentshavetherighttokeepsecretsfromthepublic?[unclear]
Aboveall,thisisthereasoningforme:Ifsomethingisgood,whykeepitsecret?Youonlyhavesecretswhenitsbad,no?Ifitsgood,betransparent,beclear,no?
BR:Okay,now
KC:Thatwasmypoint.AndnowMichaelhastoleave.
BR:Michaelhastoleave.Weinviteyoutohavealastword.Idontthinkitsgoingtobethelastword,butitsanopportunityforyoutosayyourpieceherebeforeyouhavetoleave,butIhavethefeelingthatthisconversationisgoingtocontinueforawhile.
SB:What,youvegotanaudiencewiththeking,byanychance,Michael?
BR:Therearealotofpeoplelisteningonaudionow.
MS:Well,Iwanttoemphasizeagainthat,asfarastheUnitedStatesisconcerned,becauseitisthemostpowerfulnationwhenitcomestomanagingtheextraterrestrialsecrets,thattherehasbeenafundamentalstrugglebetween...
Ontheonehand,trans-nationalorganizationsandactorsandtheneoconservativeagendaduringtheBushadministrationwasoneofthefocalpointsofthatandtheconstitutionalforcesintheUnitedStatesgovernment,theso-calledWhiteHats;peopleassociatedtheNavyandtheotherkindofloyalconstitutionalforces.
Now,9/11September11,2001was,Ibelieve,thefirstinaseries
offalse-flagattackswhichwouldculminateinsomethingalongthelinesofanalieninvasion.
Ithinkitwasthefirstofmanyandthereasonitdidnotoccurwasthattheconstitutionalforceswerestrongenoughtopreventthetrans-nationalistsfrommovingforwardwiththissequenceoffalse-flageventsthatwouldculminateinanuclearattackintheUnitedStates,andthenaneventualfalse-flagattack,whichwouldcreateachaosaroundtheworld.
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WiththeObamaadministration,Ithink,whatwehavenowisthattheresanascendancyoftheconstitutionalforces.
So,IamfarmoreoptimisticthatthetransitiontoDisclosureisgoingtobemuchmoreharmonious,muchmorethought-outinawaywherethepublicisproperlyprepared,sothat,whenthetruthfinallydoesemergewhetheritsattheendofthisyear,orinthreeyearstimethatitwillbedoneinawaywherewecanallbeconfidentthattheresnotgoingtobetwo-thirdsofthepopulationwipedoutinsomekindofcataclysmicattacksthatarefalse-flagoperations,butamuchmorepositiveandharmonioustransition.
SoIllleaveonthatveryoptimisticnote.
BR:Thankyou,sir.Welldone.BrianOLeary...
BOL:IwasgoingtosaythatIliveinEcuadorandthegovernmentofEcuador,well,actually,thepeopleofEcuador,justratifiedanewconstitution.Andintheconstitutionandthisisunprecedented,asfarasIknowisthatNaturehasrights.Andalthoughithasntbeenenforcedyet,itsgoingtonaturallaw.
Naturallawisbecomingmoreandmoreofaninspiredcommondenominatoroftheworldcommunityandthatsreallygoodnews,becausetheoppositeextremeistheagendaofBlackOps.
So,IthinkplaceslikeEcuadorcouldbecomeakindofaworldfocusofwhatalternativescanhappen.Now,thegovernmentofEcuadorisalsokickingouttheU.S.AirForce,theMantaAirForceBase,attheendofthisyear.Andtheseareallpositivesignsthattheimperialpowers,thesecrecy,thetrashingoftheEarththatitisbeginningtounravel.Andsonaturallaw,Ithink,needstokindofdictatethefutureagenda.
SB:ThisgentlemanmadeacommentIwanttocommentonveryquickly.
Hepointedatsomething,whichisveryimportant.
TherearerightnowaroundtheworldandintheUnitedStates,many,manyactivistmovementstryingtogetatfundamentalgovernmentliesofsomekindoranother--institutionallies.But,byandlarge,noneofthesemovementsaregettinganywhere.Thesecrecyreformisoneoftheleastfundedofall,buttheyreallpassionateandtheywanttogetforward.
TheETissueis,becauseofitsincredibleprofoundness,hasgotthepotentialtobreakthrough.And,whathappensifwebreakthroughthat
window,thatdoor,theseotherreformistoperationsandsecrecymovementsaregoingtobeabletogothroughandstartworkingtoresolvetheirissues.Inotherwords,itslikesomebodybreakingthroughthelineandeveryonefollowsbehindthem.Thatsnon-trivial.
Therearemany,manylies,manygovernmentsouttherethathavecreatedfalserealitiesandthepeoplehaveachanceto,maybe,dealwiththat,finally.But,wewillbekindofthepointofthespear.If
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thatsthewayitis--thatsthewayitis.But,Itrytokeepthatinmind.
Ihavetriedtonetworkwithsomeoftheseothergroups.Someareenvironment,someareinpeace,landmines,whatever;but,becauseofthestigmaoftheUFOthing,theydonotwanttositandbreakbread.Iunderstandthat.
VOICE:Itsabouthowcanweapproachthe[unclear].
SB:Itsnoteasy,butitsgettingbetter,youknow,andwemaystarttoseemorecollaboration.But,probably,wellseeDisclosurefirst.
Paola,onceDisclosurecomes,Ithinkallofusaregoingtobeverypopular,andpeoplewillwanttocomeandtalkwithus,andwecannetwork,andwewillhopefullyhelpeachotherout.
BR:Thatdbenice.
PH:Iagreewithwhathesays,asfaras:Iremember,duringtheVietnamWar,theNativeAmericanstookoverWoundedKnee.WehadalotofothergroupscomethroughandtherewaschangeinsocietyovertheVietnamWarquestion.Ifyouremember,theNativeAmericanstookup
anddidthesamething.
Howeverthisisadiscussionthatisapartofwhatwevebeentalkingabout.Thereisachapterinmynewbook,AlloftheAbove,calledAlienRacism.Ihavemadesomanymistakes,becauseIdonotknowwhosvisitingus,Idonotknowwheretheycomefrom,andIhavenoideahowtheythink,becausetheyarealien.
AndoneoftheproblemsIvehadwithallofmystoriesisthatIhaveinterviewedpeoplelikeDr.MichaelWolfwhosecontactwasaGray,butitwasababyGraycult;itwasnotTheGray.
ThereareseveraltypesofGrays.ThatparticularGraywasapositiveGray.Itwasfromanotherplace.
AndIhaveinterviewedpeoplewhohavebeencontactedbydifferentracesthatappearugly.AndIdonotthinkthatwehavethetimetosaythisgood,bad,evil,orwhatever.
Iwasveryembarrassedbysomethingthathappenedtome.IwastalkingabouttheReptiliansoverdinnerwithsomeNativeAmericanpeople,andoneofthosewomenwasashaman.Shewasamedicinelady.
Andshesaid:Howdareyou?Shesaid:OurancestorsweretheSerpentPeopleandtheycarriedTheKnowledge.Shesaid:TheSerpentPeoplefromourancestorswerenotevilandtheywereverywisepeople.
Andshesaidtome:QuetzalcoatliscalledplumedserpentinMexico.AlotofcultureshavetheseSerpentPeople.AndwejustcalledallReptiliansevil!
Idliketoknowhowtheywouldthinkofus.Ifwereonanotherplanet,theyshowsomepicturesofusandsay:Thesepeopleareevil,
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theyarepedophile;theyhavesexwiththeirchildren.Thesepeoplearegood,becausethesepeopleareTibetan;whattheydoistheyareTibetanmonksandtheymeditateallday.
Thesejudgmentsontheseracesofalienscannotbemadejustlikethis:good,bad,Reptilian,Gray,blondesbecause,maybe,someoftheblondesandsomeofthePleiadians,whoarecominghere,arenotexactlypositive.So,inmychapter,Isay:Itisaccordingtotheagendaoftheracewhytheyarehere.
Someofthemarehere,maybe,fortheiragenda--likehybridization,becausetheyneedsurvivalandtheyreusingoureggandsperm,becausetheyneedtosurvive.Forthem,thatsgood.Forus,thatsnotsogood;theydidntaskpermission.But,youknow,letslookatthisbeforewegoandbrandReptilians,Blondes,andNordicsaregood
ColonelCorsotoldmetherewere57differentracesofaliens;and,justfromPaola,Ihavetosayaliens,forme,arealien.Ihavenoideahowtheythink.Idonthaveanyideawhytheyrehere,andImnotgoingtotakethegovernmentstestimonyasgospelastowhythesepeoplearehere.
And,whenwegetasangryasIveheardusbe,letsrememberthat
thererewholegroupsthatareherethatarespirituallight-beings.Theyreinterdimensional.Theyarealsoinspiringus.Theyrespirituallight-beingsthatarenot...
Idontknowwhywecallthemaliens.Theyrejustbeings.Theyresoulsfromotherplaces.Whydowebrandthosepeoplealiens?Theyregivingusinspirationeverydaytogoanddothings;and,whethertheyappearaslight,whethertheyappearaspeople,whethertheyappearwhatever...
Tome,Istillthinkweneedtobecarefulaboutalienracismandputtingthatoutthere,becausepeoplearegoingtobeafraid.And
thenIhadanIndianshamanladysaying:WatchwhatyousayabouttheSerpentPeople.
BR:Idliketosupportthatwithapieceofsecond-handtestimonythatIcanreportfromBarbaraLamb,whosdonealotofworkwithExperiencers.ImetherattheConsciousLifeExpoinLosAngelesthisFebruary.
ShetoldmeapersonalstoryabouthowaReptilianhadappearedinherroom,outofnowhere,hadheldherhandandlookedherintheeyefortwominutes,andcommunicatedwithherthathehadbeenbredto
communicatewithcertainpeople,tospreadthemessagethattheyarenotallbad.Andthatsvery,veryinterestingtome.
PH:Wehavetobecareful,becausetheUFOcommunityisputtingeverythinginboxes:thisisthewayitisandthisisthewayitisandthisis...
BR:Becauseitsconvenientforusto...
PH:Well,werehuman.Thatswhywedothat.
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BR:Thatsright.Werealwaysjudgingandwerealwaysputtingthingsinboxesandthetruthmightbemuchmorecomplicatedthanthat.
PH:Ithinkitsverycomplicated.
KC:Well,itisverycomplex,andthankyou,Paola.Ibelievethatthatissomething,that,actually,inthecommunityifyouwanttousethisinaveryloosesensethattherearealldifferentkindsofbeings,thatthatsreallywhatweretalkingabout,andwideningtheperceptionofthekindsofbeingsandthemulti-dimensionalnatureofalloflife,usincluded.
Thatswhatwereheretotalkabout.Thatswhatwereopeningthedoorsto.Whathappensis--youreright,whenitgetstosovereignty,thatsoneofthemostimportantaspectsofwhatweretalkingabouthere.
Whatweretalkingabouthereisatransitionthatweregoingthrough,humanityandtheplanet.Infact,possiblytheGalaxy;galaxies,areallinastateofevolution,ETsincluded,okay?
ETs,interdimensionals,younameit;theyreallspiritsinhabitingbodies,inhabitinglightbodies,ifyouwill.Itjustdepends.Were
allspirit.
So,atanyrate,whatBrianssayingisalsovalid.Inotherwords,thisisGaia,thisEarth,andweneedtoactuallyprotecther,allowhertothrive.Andthishasbeenheldinslaveryfortoolong.Okay?Thisbeing,thiswholebeingwecalltheEarth,isabeing.
So,actually,youknow,itisamovementtowardsfreedom,ofbreakingthechains.Itgetsthatwide,butitsalsoaquestiontobeaskedofevery,youknow,visiting...evenpeoplethatarehere,evensubterraneanbeings.
Weretalkingabout:IstheEarthandishumanityallowedsovereignty?
Areweeachindividuallyallowedsovereigntytogrowandthrivetothebestabilitythatwehavetodoso?
BR:Andcanweassure[orshow?]thatwerecapableofit?
KC:Weredoingsoatthemoment,Iwouldsurmise.But,youknow,whatweresayinghereis,basically,thatsomeofthesebeingsarecomingherewithanagenda,justlikesomeofthecontrollers,so-called,whateveryouwanttotermthesepeople.Theyarenotalien;theyareus.Okay?Nonethelesstheyhavechosentocontrol.Andwehavegiventhemthatabilitytocontrol.
Weretakingitback,slowly,butsurely.Thatswhatitsallabout,istakingbackthecontrolofourownsovereigntyandsaying:No!Enough!Youwontmakedecisionsforus.Weareco-creatorsandweregoingtodothistogether.
But,nottoalsoallowmoreadvancedracestotakeusover,todetermineourpath,etcetera,etcetera.So,therearemanylevelstothisExopoliticalviewofhowweredealingwiththisfuturethatwerefastapproaching.
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BR:IwasgoingtosaythatImthinkingthatweneedtowrapthisquitesoon,because,otherwise,wewonthaveanythingtotalkaboutthisweekend.[laughter]Andthisisthestartofaconversation,ratherthanthefinishofone.
IwasgoingtoproposethatAlfred,asthefounderofthetermExopolitics,mightusefullybeabletomakealittlefinalsummation,ifsuchathingispossible,andthenwecancontinuethisconversationelsewhereandelse-when.
AW:Well,Iwillattemptone,butIwillbeveryhumble.[laughs]Ithinkthatwhatwehavetouchedinthisconversationreallyisareflectionofthemulti-dimensionality,asyouweresaying,ofthemultiverserealityinwhichwelive.
AndExopoliticsasasocialsciencethescienceofrelationsbetweenourhumancivilizationandotherintelligent,highlyintelligent,civilizationsinthemultiversecanserveasaninterface.WewereallabletoencapsulateandholdthisentireconversationwithinthedisciplineofExopolitics,aswewouldhavewithinthedisciplineofAnthropology,werewestudyingsometribethatwehaddiscoveredonanisland.
SoIwanttothankyouforadvancingthedisciplineinthisconversationandwelookforwardtomanymoreinitsevolution.BR:Steve...?
SB:Idontwantto...notwrapitbut,rather,Iwanttoputsomethingontherecord,sincewereoncamerathatIthinkisimportant.Ishouldhavedoneitsooner.Forgiveme.
Namelythis:thattheumbrellaofExopoliticsallowsustoengageamuchbroader,almostinfinite,arrayofissuesofpast,present,andfuturewithoutquestion,andthatswhereIwanttobe.
But,Ithink,wemustrememberthatallofusstandontheshoulders
ofagroupofindividualswhoplowedthroughthisissue,startinginthe40s,fromprimarilyapureresearchkindofforensicapproachscientificcreatingorganizations,anddoingresearchandsightingreportsandwhathaveyou.
Andtheyhadtodothisduringtheheartofthetruthembargo,whenthegovernmentwasabsolutelyopposedineverywaytothisgoingforward.Itwasbrutal.Itwasdifficult.Andmanyofthemhaventlivetoseethiskindofdiscussion.
Wejustlostsuchapersonrecently,justafewdaysagoRichardHall,legendaryresearcherdied.Othersaregoingtodie.
Asithappensandthisisnotsurprising;itshappenedbeforeaswetransitionfromtheUFOResearchEratotheExopoliticalEra,veryserioustensionshavedevelopedbetweentheseold-guardresearchersandtheExopoliticalactivistsandwhathaveyou.Theyrenotfoundless.Therearereasonsforitandtheyneedtobeappreciatedandtheyregrowing.
IwantedtobeclearthatI,forone,knowthat,withoutthem,IcouldntbedoingwhatImdoing,andIhaveeveryintentionasthisgoesforward...
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Ivebeengracedwiththeopportunitytodolotsofmediaandgetoutthere.Okay,fine.ButasthisthingculminatesandwemovepastDisclosure,IhaveeveryintentiontodoeverythingIcantoensurethattheseresearchers,thesefoundingfathersandmothersofUFOlogy,aregiventhecreditthattheydeserve.
Thattheyareabletoparticipateinthepost-Disclosureworldandnotbeshutoutbyabunchofsmart-assscientistsfromHarvardthatjustgotreligion;thattheywillberespectedandhonored.ThisisimportantandIwanttoputthatontherecord.Thankyou.
BR:Hear,hear!Wonderful.Thatsright.Werestandingontheshouldersofgiantshere.Therearealotofverybravemen.Oneofthenamesthatimmediatelyoccurredtomewhenyousaythat,ofcourse,isDonaldKehoe...
PH:Yes,[unclear]?
SB:Sure.
BR:...andhiswhole...Theywereheroesall.
SB:Kehoe.Hynek.
PH:McDonald.
SB:McDonald.Butthererealotofthem.Berlinerand,ah...
BR:Itsahugelist.
BS:OhGod,Imsorry.Thenameescapesme.Butthereareplentystillalive.
AW:Yeah.Dr.JohnMack.
PH:JohnMack.Yeah.
BR:Absolutely.WevegotabunchofthemthatwepaytributetoontheCamelotsite,andtherearemanymorewhowemayneverevenknowabout.Itsateameffort,andmanyofthesepeoplewhohavegonebeforeus...andIhopethatnottoomanywillhavetogoafterus,because,withalittlebitofluck,wemightbeabletowrapthisthingup,betweenus.
Therearepeopleallovertheworld,manydifferentcountries,manynationalities,peopleofdifferentexperience,differentcolor.Wereallworkingtogetheronthis,becausethisisaboutthehumanrace,
andthisisathingthatwehavetoworktogetheron.
SB:Iwishtherewasawaytoreconcile,thatweallgettogetheronthesamepage,but,Ithink,itsjustthenatureofthingsthatthatsnotprobablygoingtohappen.But,itwonthurtif,whenwehavetheopportunity,toacknowledgethemthebestwecan.Ithinkthatwillhelp,andwellseewherethingsgo.
VOICE:Inrelationtomanyofmypeopleinthisconference,becausetherearenot...[unclear]...thereisanissueofgettingmypeople.
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IthinkthatGaryMcKinnon
SB:Idontknowtheperson.
PH:GaryMcKinnon.
SB:Oh,GaryMcKinnon.
[manyvoicesoverlapping]
VOICE:[unclear]wehaveto[unclear]...somebodytosaysomething.
SB:YouthinksomebodysgoingtomentiontheGaryMcKinnoncase?
KC:Well,GaryMcKinnonhasbeengetting...
VOICE:[unclear]
SB:[unclear]agreement,probably.
KC:Well,weinterviewedGaryMcKinnon,andyoucertainlyarewelcometoviewhisvideoonourwebsite.HesgettingalotofattentionintheUK.Hesgotalotofwell-knownmusiciansnowbackinghim.
TherehavebeenfairlysuccessfulmovestokeephimfrombeingextraditedfromtheUKtotheUStostandtrial.Whetherornotthatwillultimatelybesuccessful,Ithinkthereisafinalrulingcomingthrough,actuallyinthenextweekortwo,Iwastold.SoIdontknowwherethatsgoingtogo.
TheyveputthroughanumberofdifferentdefensesforGary.WeatCamelotwereconsultingbehindthescenesonthat.
However,IhavetosaythatGaryMcKinnonandhisgroupdecided,intermsofdefendinghim,nottoraisetherealcardthatheholds,whichisthathefoundevidenceoffleet-to-fleettransfersand
off-planet,non-terrestrialofficersthatindicatedwhatweknowofasthesecretspaceprogram,andthereforetheydecidednottousethatinhisdefense.Okay?Thatwasprettymuchpushedtotheside.
TheyareusinganotherdefensethatweatCamelotdidnotrecommend,butwewishhimtheabsolutebest.Hesabrilliantmusician,Ihavetosay.Ifyouhaventheardhismusic,Iencourageyoutodoso.
But,ontopofthat,hesalsoabrilliantmind,andhedidcomeacrosssomeveryinterestinginformationwhenhedidhishacking;andhewasverynave.Hewasincrediblybrilliantatthesametimeasbeingnave.But,hesbeingusedasascapegoatbythePowersThat
Be.
Whathecouldhavedonewastoactuallytakethisissuethatwerealldiscussingrighthereandnowintoacourtroom,whichmighthaveresultedinDisclosureonawholedifferentlevel;but,atthemoment,itdoesntappearthatsgoingtohappen.Okay?
Now,whetherhewillbesavedbecausehewentthisotherroute,Idontknow.Butinanswertoyourquestion,thatsthestorywithGary
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McKinnon.
VOICE:Well,Iwanttoasktomakeamentionofhimandthisissue.
SB:ImsureDavidGriffinisgoingtomentionhim.HeisExopoliticsUnitedKingdom.IthinkhesspeakingonSunday.
VOICE:BecauseIthinkwehavetotakehimasourheroandastheproof.Whyishestillinjailifhedidntfindanything?So,showareferencetohimandthegovernment[unclear]
BR:Wecandothat,andwejusthave.
VOICE:[unclear,overtalk]
KC:Well,weregoingoutovertheairways.
BR:Wejusthave.
VOICE:[unclear]Manhastherightas[unclear]hisownself,therightofhumankindofknowingthesesecrets.
BR:Yes.
KC:Thatsright.
BR:Buthesoneofmanyheroes.Thisisthepoint.
[voicecontinuestoovertalk]
BR/KC:Yes.Yeah.
VOICE:[unclear]meetalltogetherintwohoursmakeashortstatementandthereisgoingtobealotofpressconferencehere[unclear]
KC:Werehappytoraiseittomorrowinthepressconference.Were
happytodothis.WellraisetheGaryMcKinnonstory.
SB:Well,thepresscanraiseit.Letthemask.
VOICE:Donttalkbyyourself,asmedia,asagroup,okay?LetsmeetalltogetherandsaywearegoingtosaysomethingaboutGaryMcKinnon,andherepresentshumankindandwantstoknowthiskindofsecret.
KC:Desiretoknowthetruth.
SB:GaryMcKinnonisnotgoingtobeextradited.TheObamaadministrationhasnodesiretodothat.Thereasontheyhaventdone
anythingimmediatelyisbecauseitwouldlookawkward.Itslikeamatterofpriorityofissuesandso...butitsinconceivabletomethatitwillhappen.
But,ofcourse,hehasgonethroughalot;but,thatsaid,I,forone,donotsupportorencourageanybodytohackintogovernmentcomputersforanyreason.Right?Itisaformofcivildisobedience.Ifyoudoit,bepreparedtopaytheprice.
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VOICE:Whynot?Theyhackintoours.[laughter]
SB:Andtheyshouldpaythepriceforthat,right?
VOICE:[continuestalking/unclear/othervoicesoverlapping]
KC:Letssee,theresasaying,andsomebody,ifIgetthequotewrong,cancorrectme:Inatimeofdeceit,actingindefenseofthetruthisarevolutionaryact.
BR:Tellingthetruthisarevolutionaryact--thatwasGeorgeOrwell.
KC:AndIhavetosaythatthat,inmyopinion,whatGaryMcKinnonhasdone,andthat,ifwegofast-forwardtothefuture,letssay,theyear2050,whenweallknowthetruth,GaryMcKinnonwillbeintheforefrontasoneofthepeoplethatwehavetothankasarevolutionaryforbeingahacker.
Thatsmyopinionofit,okay?AndIunderstandthat,Steve,youhaveadifferentview.
SB:No,no.Imjustsaying
[voicesoverlapping/unclear]
SB:Idontwanthimtobeharmed.
BR:Steveissayingthat...
KC:But,whatweareallabouthereisgettingtothetruth.Thatswhatthisdiscussionhasbeenabout.Weareclaimingourrighttoknowthesecretsandthereisareasonforthat.
So,withthat,isthereanyoneelsethatwantstosayaclosing
statementorasuggestionor...
BR:IwantBriantosaythelastword.
BOL:Well,justaquickremarkandthatisthatalmosteverythingthatappliestoET/UFO/Disclosurealsoappliestofreeenergy.Itsamazinghowparallelandsimilartheyare.Itsalsoamazinghowmanyheroesinthefreeenergyfieldwhovebeenassassinated,whovebeenthreatened.
Now,itstimeforusalltostandandbecounted,andtocreatetherevolutionpeacefulrevolution.
KC:Itsarevolutioninconsciousness.
BOL:Yes.
BR:Wonderful.
SB:TheTruth!Whataconcept!
BOL:Itllsetusfree;but,first,itllpissusoff.
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KC:[laughs]
SB:Right.Okay.Thanks,Kerry.Iappreciateitverymuch.
KC:Okay,thankyou.Thankyouvery,verymuch.
AW:Thankyousomuch.
BR:Thankyou,Alfred.
[crosstalk,musicfadesin]
BR:Goodjob.
SB:...outintheworld...youguysarethehardest-workingpeopleinthefield.
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