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Meeting Summary Notes Project: DARTCottonBelt
Subject: NorthDallasAreaFocusGroupMeeting
Date: Monday,September11,2017at7:00PM
Location: CampbellGreenRecreationCenter,16600ParkhillDrive,Dallas,TX75248
Attendees: DARTTimMckay,EVPofRegionalDevelopmentSteveSalin,VPofRailPlanningJohnRhone,VPofCapitalDesignandConstructionMikeMiles,VPofGovernmentRelationsChadEdwards,AVPofCapitalPlanningJohnHoppie,CottonBeltProjectManagerRosaRosteet,CommunityAffairsLawrenceMeshack,CommunityAffairs
GeneralPlanningConsultant(GPC6)MarkMartin,Sr.ProjecManagerTomShelton,ProjectEngineerAmandaStahlnecker,Sr.RailroadEngineerKrisLloyd,EnvironmentalPlannerDianneTordillo,PublicInformationSpecialistStefanieTapke,PublicInformationCoordinator
DallasAreaRapidTransit(DART)conducteditssecondNorthDallasAreaFocusGroup(AFG)meetingonMonday,Sept.11,2017.ThepurposeofthemeetingwastoprovideupdatesonvarioustopicsbasedonthelastmeetingsabouttheCottonBeltCorridorRegionalRailprojectanddiscussnextstepsforfortheproject.
Attachments
• Presentation• Sign-insheets• Emailinvitation• Handout• FlipChartNotes
Welcome&Introduction
LawrenceMeshack,DARTCommunityEngagement,welcomedattendeesandintroducedJohnHoppie,CottonBeltProjectManager.
Agenda
AFGConcerns:
• AFGseeksbindingresolutionorcodificationthatfreightwillbeadandonedpermanentlyinNorthDallas
• AFGrequestseliminationofsomeorallNorthDallasstations• AFGrequeststhatDARTconsideralternatevehiclessuchashydrogencellwhichmaybequieter
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DesignUpdate:
• Engineeringo Willbeginbuildingsingle-track,thenexpandtodouble-trackeventuallyo Single-anddouble-trackareascannotbedeterminedyetsincetheoperationsmodelis
stillbeingdevelopedo Typicalsectionswereviewed
• Stationso Names
§ NorthlakeStationisnowCypressWatersStation§ RennerVillagestationisnowCoitStation§ UTDStationisnowUTDallasStation
o Locationandlength§ 350-footplatformtoaccommodateavehiclesimilartoTEXRail’sFLIRT§ Platformsapproximately24inchestall,similartovehiclesusedinFortWorth§ Sideandcenterplatformconceptswillbeused§ Conceptualarchitecturalrendering§ Stationplanviews
o Stationswithinfocusgrouparea§ KnollTrail§ PrestonRoad§ CoitStation§ UTDallas§ DARTisclearingupto12stationsenvironmentallyalongthecorridorbutmany
ofthemwillbedeferred§ NorthDallasistheonlyareawhereresidencesareonbothsidesofthecorridor
EnvironmentalUpdate:
• Documentationofexistingconditionsalongthecorridor:o Landuseo Parksandrecreationo Vegetationandwaterresourceso Historicresources
• NoiseMitigation:o A noise monitoring program has been initiated to characterize the existing noise
conditionsatrepresentativenoise-sensitivereceptorsalongtheCottonBeltCorridor§ Noise monitors were installed at 27 locations to collect 24-hour noise
measurementsalongthecorridor§ Noisemonitors were installed at 11 locations to collect short-term, one-hour
noisemeasurementsalongthecorridoro Finalnoiseanalysis cannotmove forwardunlessengineeringandoperationsmodeling
arecomplete;nextphasesinclude:§ Assesment§ Identificationimpacts(perFederalTransitAdministrationcriteria)§ Recommendmitigation§ Quietzonerecommendationsforresidentialareasalongthecorridor
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TrafficUpdate:• Trafficanalysisnotcomplete• MitigationrequiredatHillcrestRoadandCoitRoad
RidershipUpdate:
• Comparisonofindividualstationridershiponopeningdayversusprojectedridershipin2040• Theprojectionsarebetteratpredictingoveralllineridershipthanindividualstationridership
CommunityIntegration:
• Community integration features such as fences, walls, trails and landscaping will beincorporatedintotheprojectsubsequenttoidentificationofimpactsandrequiredmitigation
• DARTwillwork incooperationwiththeNorthCentralTexasCouncilofGovernmentsand localjurisdictionsforimplementationofcommunityintegrationfeaturesincluding:
o Soundwalls:§ Noiseimpactanalysiswilldeterminewherewallsarerequired§ DART will work in cooperation with local jurisdictions for consideration of
additionalwallso Trails:
§ Currentlyhaveplaceholdersfortrailswheresomeimplementedwithrailline§ DARTwillworkincooperationwithNCTCOG
UpcomingCommunityOpenHouses:
• Monday,September18,2017,6:30p.m.DeWittPerryMiddleSchoolCafeteria1709EastBeltLineRoad,Carrollton,TX75006
• Wednesday,September20,2017,6:30p.m.RichardsonCivicCenter411WestArapahoRoad,Richardson,TX75080
• Monday,September25,2017,7:00p.m.ParkhillJuniorHighSchoolCafeteriA6500ShadyBankDrive,Dallas,TX75248
QuestionandAnswerSessionThefollowingquestionandanswerstatementsarefromtheopenforumpartoftheareafocusgroupmeetingheldMonday,Sept.11,2017.
MattNeville-HighlandSpringsRetirementCommunityWhatistheheightoftheproposedwall?
JohnHoppieThatwouldbebasedonthegradenexttoitandwherethewallis.Thewallheightisyettobeconfirmed.
DavidDick-PrestonwoodTrailsCanyouidentifywherethestationwouldbealongKnollTrailDrive?
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JohnHoppie(ReferencesthemapoftheKnollTrailStation).ThisisKnollTrailDriverunningnorthandsouthhere.TheDallasNorthTollwayisjustoffofthepagehere,andthentheCottonBeltcrossesjustnorthofArapahoRoad.
TomWood-PrestonGreenHomeownersAssociationWhereisFairhillSchool?
JohnHoppie(ReferencesthemapofPrestonRoadStation,pointingtothelocationofFairhillSchoolonthemap).
RabbiAryehRodin-CongregationOhevShalomWhatdoesmitigationmean?
JohnHoppieMitigationmeanstotaketheimpactandlessenitbacktowhereitisnoworreduceitevenfurther.
SandyGreyson–DallasCityCouncilCanIseethetrafficnumbersforHillcrestRoadversusCoitRoadandPlanoParkway?
JohnHoppieYouwillbeabletoseethemallassoonastheyareready.Weareintheprocessofcompletingthemnow.
SandyGreyson,CityofDallasYoumusthavesomeideaofwhattheyarebecauseitlookslikeyouareproposinggradeseparationsonstreetsthatarenotasbusyasHillcrest.
JohnHoppieEverygradeseparationthatwearesuggestingisfromwhatwehadin2010.Wewillhavethenewnumbersveryshortly.Thereportisbeingdonebyourconsultant.
SallyWolfishIsthereanyplantoslowthetraindownwhereitcrossesDavenportRoad?Aschoolisacrosstherailroadtracks.
JohnHoppieWewouldputinsafecrossingsthatwouldkeeppeopleoutoftherailcorridor.
SallyWolfishRightnow,thereisaspeedlimitwherethereisafreightline.Oncethepassengerrailisinstalled,willthatspeedlimitstillapply?
JohnHoppieWewillhavetodetermineexactlywhatthespeedlimitwasbeforeandwhatthepreviousspeedlimitwasfor.
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SallyWolfishIthink35milesanhour.
JohnHoppieIbelievethespeedlimitwasmadeupundertrackconditions.
TimMcKayLetmeseeifIcanansweryourquestion.Freightisalotdifferentfromcommuterrail,fromthestandpointofhowmuchmassandenergyittakestorun.Itmaytakeamileorhalfamilebeforeafreightrailstops.IthinkwhatJohnistryingtosayisthataswegothroughthecorridor,welookatalotofthings.Welookatneighborhoods,crossings,sightlines,visibilityandanotherwholesetofcriteria.Idon’tknowthatitwillbethesamespeedbutwewillsetthatspeedtohelpusachievesafetyatcrossingsandintersections.
Whenwe’recomingintoastation,thespeedsalwaysgodown.Whenwe’releavingastation,speedsarelow.Welookatalltheconditionsacrossthecorridorandtrytomatchthemup.Whatwedon’twanttohaveisaspeedprofilethatgoeshighandlow,thenhighandlow,etc.Weusuallytryandlevelitoutandwillbegenerallyconservative.Wemaydesignitforhigherspeedsforsafety.Wetypicallymatchthespeedswithenvironmentalneeds.
Idon’tknowwhatspeedthefreighttrainsweredoingwhentheyweretravelingthroughneighborhoods.Alotofthemhavetodowiththeconditionoftraffic.SoifatrackisinwhattheycallaClass1condition,that’slikea10-mileyardtrack.Ifit’sClass2,itgoesupto25miles.TypicallywewoulddesignourcommuterrailstobeClass4.Thatmeanswecouldgoupto79milesperhour.Thethingis,youlookatthelocationsofthestationsandobviouslythespeedwillgoanywherenear79milesperhoureventhoughthat’swherewewouldbeabletodesignittoward.Itisjustasafetyfactor.
Wetendtobeoverlysafewiththedesignandwetendtobeoverlysafewiththespeed.Wearenotthereyetbecausewehavenotfinishedallthephysicaltracks,crossingsandgrades.Weareprobablyonlyatfivepercentwhenitcomestopullingallofthatstufftogether.Weneedabitoftime.
Oncewegetthere,wewillsitdownwithyouallandwewillgiveyousectionbysectionofwhatweanticipatetoproposeforthiscommunity.Wearenotthereyet,butyeswewilltakesafetyintoconsideration.Doesthathelp?
SallyWolfishYes.
BobMoore–PrestonGreenHomeownersAssociationAsfaraschildrencrossingtherail,whatkindofsafetymeasureswillbetaken?
JohnHoppieWewillhavepedestriangates,signalsatthecrossingwithflashinglightsthatwillbeactivitatedwhenatrainiscoming.
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WaltMarston–HillcrestManorHomeownersAssociationDoyouhaveanexampleofthatalreadyinplace?
JohnHoppieWehavealightrailsystemthat’salreadyinplacewithgatesandsignalsrightnow.TheCottonBeltrailwillprobablyhaveamoreheightenedsecuritythanlightrailbecauseofthequietzonesandextrarequirementsfromtheFederalRailroadAdministration(FRA).
DaneCofer–CongregationOhevShalomArethesethesametypethattheyusefortheDentonCountyTransportationAuthority(DCTA)?
TimMcKayProbablynot.Insomelocationsmaybe.Quietzonesrequireyoutohavequadgates,whicharegatesthatcomedowninallfourquadrants.Itrequiresyoutohavearaisedmedium.Andthenthere’scommunicationtrainsignalsthataresentbackandforthinacontinuousmanner.Thereareeightcriteriayouhavetomeetforaquietzone.Allthosecriteriawillbemet.Partofitisvisibility,speed,timingofthegates,closeproximitytoabunchofcrossings.Theremaybeanareawhereyouwouldhavetwocrossingsthatareclosetogetherandessentiallythegateswillactivitatewithinafewsecondsfromeachotheronlybecausethey’rethatclose.Aswegothroughthat,typicallyonthesidewalks,youwouldhavethegatespositionedtowheretheycouldcomedownonthesidewalksandcanhaveaphysicalbarrieronthesidewalks.Thisissothatyouwouldnottohaveasituationwheretherewouldbeagatefortrafficandnotonthesidewalk.Doesthatmakesenseandhelpansweryourquestion?
DaneCofer–CongregationOhevShalomYesitdoes.Ijustwantedtoknowwhetherthereareexistingexamples.
TimMcKayThereareseveralalongtheTrinityRailwayExpress(TRE).ThereareafewuptherealongDentonCounty.Wecangetyousomeexamplesofwhatsomeofthosemightbe.Justunderstandthatsomeofthoseexamplesmaynotbethecriteriathatyouareconcernedwithhere.Justbecauseitisaquadgate,itdoesnotnecessarilymeanthatitisbyaschoolorjustbecauseitisaquadgateithastodowithnoise.Itdoesnotmeanthatthereareotherprotectivebarrieratthecrossing.Thosethingsallhavetobeuniquelyapplied.
SandyGreysonWhopaysforthegatesandimprovementsyourneedtogetaquietzone?
JohnHoppieDARTwillbepayingforthat.Wewouldhavetodoanapplicationwiththecity,butitisnotcityfunded.
TimMcKayItisDARTfunded.Wewillpackageeverythingupandworkwithjurisdictionalauthoritiesandcities.Thecityactuallyhastosubmitforthequietzone.
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SandyGreysonThat’sfine.Ijustwanttomakesurewearenotgoingtopayforit.
JohnHoppieItwillbepartofourfundformitigation.
BobMooreJohn,atwhatpointwillridershipbreakeven?Whatwillyourridershipnumbersbebeforeyoubreakeven?
JohnHoppieWedon’tbreakeven.Transportationdoesn’tpayitselfoff.Doyoumeanwhatisthetrade-offbetweenonestationfromanotherstation?
BobMooreYes.
JohnHoppieRidershipbecomespartofthecontributinginformationanditwilltieinwithotherstationsthathavelowridership,pooraccess,noparking,etc.Wedohavelightrailstationsthathavelowridership,andprojectedlowridership.Itreallydependsonsite-specificconditionsandinformation.
JoshCohen–AttendeeWhatadditionalinformationwillyouhavefortheopenhouses?
JohnHoppieTherewillbenonewinformationattheopenhouses.Itwillnotbemorethanwhatwehavetoday.Weareopeningituptotheentirecorridor,notjustthisareafocusgroup
DennisDeShazer–PrestonwoodHomeownersAssociationAtthelastmeeting,thisissueofdoubletrackingwasleftopenforinputfromthecommunity.IknowDART’spositiononthatisifwedoitnow,wedonothavetodoitlater.ButI’mnotsurewhattheconsensusisnow.Thewayyou’representingtonightmakesitlooklikedouble-trackisforsure.
JohnHoppieDouble-trackingisstillopenfordiscussionrightnow.
SallyWolfishOntheissueoftrails,willtherebetrailsinpeople’sbackyards?ThetopicoftrailsalongtheCottonBeltseemsliketherewillbebothatrainandatrailinmybackyard.Thatisalotofpublicaccessthere.
JohnHoppieItisawidecorridor.Weareplanningfora100footwidecorridor.Therewillberoomfortwotracks,atrailandanaccessroadwithinourcorridor.Ifyoudon’twantatrail,speakupandwewouldbegladtolistentothat.
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DavidDickWhatsideofthesoundwallwouldthetrailbe?
JohnHoppieItwouldbeontheoutsideofthetrain.
TimMcKayHere’sthething.Itdependsonhowthezoneisprofiledinthatarea.Ifyousaythatifthesoundwallwasofftotheside,thenthereshouldbesomethingthatseparatesthehikeandbiketrail.Wecannothavepeoplejustcrossingwherever.Ifthat’sthecase,wewillgetfolksouttherewhatwillgoandjumpsometracks.Wehavenotdeterminedexactlywherethetrailswillgorightnow.Weareinthesoundmodelingprocess.WeareworkingwithCraigJanssen(CraigEstatesHomeownersAssociation)whoactuallylivesalongthatcorridor.Hetookhisownduplicatereadings.Hisbaselineresultsareessentiallythesameasours.Bothgroupsareworkingthroughsomecalculations.Ifyou’reinterestedyoucansitdownandtalkwithhimandhewouldbeabletogiveyouabetterpicture.Thisisnotbasedonanymodel.Thisisjustapossibleconfiguration.Itmaymeanthatthosewallswillbeclosetothetracksinordertomitigatethenoisethatcomefromtherail.Or,theymaybefartheraway.Wearejustnotthereyet.
DavidDickThebiketrailwillnotbeinsidethesoundwallwillit?
TimMcKayItdepends.Somewallsareforsoundandsomeareforvisualreasons.Itcouldbeinsidedependingonthesoundmodel.Theywouldstillhavetobeseparatedfromthetrack.
DavidDickSotherecouldbeawirefencethatisinsideofthewall,andanotherfencebetweenthetrailandtherailtrack?Ifthefenceisoutsideofthemitigationwallthenthereshouldbeanadditionalwirefencetothesideofthebiketrailinordertopreventanyofthebikeriderstogooffthetrail.
TimMcKayWhenyoulookattheslidethatshowstheright-of-way,itismeanttoshowyouhowmuchspacewewillhavealongthecorridor,buttheconfigurationonhowitisallactuallysetuphasnotbeendeterminedyet.Soitisgoodthatyouaresharingthiswithusnow.
DavidDickIamabikeriderandIusethetrails.ItistheonlythingaboutthisprojectthatIaminterestedin.
DennisDeShazerWhatisthetimeperiodofwhenyouwillbeabletolayoutthepotentialconfigurationofthings?
TimMcKayMysuspectisthatit’sprobablygoingtobeabout60daysfromnowtopullallthattogether.SoIwouldsayNovemberorDecembertimeperiod.Weareactuallygoingtostartlayingthoseoutforyou.Keepinmindthatwearelookingatadesign-buildprojectdelivery.What’simportantisthatwegetthingsfixed
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asmuchaswecan.Asdesignisfinished,wearestillgoingtohavedialogue.Wewillprobablyonlygoupto10percentdesignbeforeweputitoutfordesign-buildsolicitation.Wewanttotrytofixasmuchaswecan,butsomethosethingsmaystillhavetomoveasweworktowardthefinaldesignprocess.
Pleaseunderstandthatwhilewearegoingtostartlayingthingsouttoyou,wemightstillsaywedonotknowalltheanswersasofyet.Doesthatmakesense?
DennisDeShazerThankyou.Yes,thatdoeshelp.Itisjusttheonlywaywewillknowwhereeverythingis.Wewillactuallyknowhowfarwalls,creeksandrailare.Itallgetsrealatthatpoint.
JackDaniels–HighlandSpringsHomeownersAssociationAreyoustillconsideringUTDallasandCoitRoadstations?
JohnHoppieYes,botharestillunderconsideration.
DebTarantino–HighlandsofMcKamyHomeownersAssociationInour2.6-milenorthDallascorridor,doyouknowforsurethereisroomforeverythingthatyouaretalkingabout?
JohnHoppieThereisroomforallofit.Thereisnofreightrailinyourarea,buttherearemoreopportunitiesfortrailinNorthDallasthanotherareas.Plusthereissignificantareasofright-of-wayinthisareaaswell.
TimMcKayTheanswertoyourquestionisthatwehaven’tpinneddownallofwhatwillbeincludedintheright-of-wayyet.Weneedanother60daysuntilwecanputallthelocationsinperspective.
AryehRodinIbelieveyousaidtherearetwopotentialstationsthatdonothaveparkingaccessibilityordrop-offlocationstothestation.Wouldn’tthatknockthosetwoplacesout?Whywouldwehavestationsifwecan’thaveaccessibilitytoit?
JohnHoppieNotnecessarily.Theyhavehandicapaccessinbothlocations.Theyhavepedestrianaccessandpromotesneighborhoodwalking.
AryehRodinAreyoutalkingaboutpeoplewithinwalkingdistance?Seethat’sverylimited.Tomakeastationonlyforpeopletowalkthereisprobablynotagoodidea.
MattBach–NorthDallasNeighborhoodAllianceNowthatwearesomewhatfamiliarwiththeplans,IwilltellyouthatneighborsandhomeownersI’vetalkedto,andmyselftoacertainextent,arestillshakingtheirheadsthattheCottonBeltprojectisnot
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goingthroughLBJExpressway.HowwouldyouexplaintoaneighborwhythisisnotgoingdownLBJ?AllofthesemitigationswouldgoawayifyouusedLBJ.Whyarewenotlookingatthis?
JohnHoppieLBJisanadditionalcorridor,butnotapreventativecorridor.IfyoulookatthetraveldemandfortheCottonBeltcorridor,itisseparatefromtheLBJcorridor.
MattBachLBJclearlyhas10timesthedemandthattheCottonBeltcorridor.
JohnHoppieItisalsopossiblethatLBJis10timesmoreexpensive.
SallyWolfishIjustwanttopointouttheobviousonthePrestonRoadstation.Ifonethingabouttherailistopromotegettingpeopletotheairport,thenpeoplearenotgoingtowalkupwiththeirluggagetogotoPrestonRoadstationandgetonatrain.Thereisnotadensityinhousingthereforpeopletowalk.IliveontheothersideofthecreekfromthatandIjustdon’tunderstandwhyanymoneywillbeexpendedInthatstation.
JohnHoppieIamhappytodiscussthat.Itendtoagreewithmostofwhatyousaid,exceptforthatthenumberoneusedcorridoriscommutertraffic,asopposedtoairporttraffic.YestherearelimitationstothePrestonRoadstation.Iacknowledgeit.We’veheardyousayit.Ourboardwillknowyouropinionaboutthis.
BobMooreItisjustconcerning.Itisnexttoaschool.Thereisnoparking.Wehaveresidentialcloseby.Quitefrankly,thattrafficcircuitisverydangerous.Ifyoucantakeitoutnow,youcancertainlydoso.
JohnHoppieIhearwhatyou’resaying.Itrytomakeanefforttoeliminatethestation,butwestillhavetokeepitduetotheresolutionthatwaspassed.However,itisnotlikelytobeadvanced.
SteveSalinLet’stalkaboutthisalittlebit.ThereisaCityofDallasresolutionthatsaysthereshouldbethreestationsinNorthDallas.AllwearetryingtodoiscarryforwardthewishesanddesiresoftheDallasCityCouncilfrom2006.WehavealsoreceivedalotoffeedbackfromfolksjustlikethisgroupthatsaysespeciallythestationatPrestonRoaddoesnotmakesense.Weareworkingtoeliminateit,butwehavetogothroughaprocesstobeabletomakethecasebacktotheDallasCityCouncilthateventhoughwehavearesolutionthatsayswehavetobuildastationhere,thepublicissayingthatitisnotreallyagoodidea.IfweaskpeoplerightnowforashowofhandswhowouldliketoeliminatethePrestonRoadstation,I’dseeanawfullotofhandsgoup.Staffwouldbesayingthesamething.Pleaseworkwithusaswegothroughthisprocessandfinishupthedesign.Thenwewouldhavetogothroughtheenvironmentalprocess.Afterthat,wewouldthenbeabletogobacktocitycouncil.
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DennisDeShazerWasn’tthistheresolutionthattooktherailunderground?
SteveSalinThat’sthedifficultythatIamdealingwith.I’vegotpartsofaresolutionthatsayonething,butthat’salsohowwegettothevehicle,whichhastheTier4environmentallyfriendlydesign.It’snotthatIampickingandchoosingbutIamtryingtohelpmakeupforyourcasesforsomeofthethingsthatyouhavesaidthatyoudonowanttosee.Wehavealreadygonethroughtheissuethatthetrenchaspectisjustnotgoingtohappen.Whatwearegoingthroughisaprocesstodemonstratethatmanyofthethingsthatwentintovariousresolutions,whetherit’sfromtheDARTBoardorthecitycouncil,haskindofgottenustothispoint.WearetryingtofindthebestfitoftheprojectinNorthDallasthatminimizesimpacts.Ihaveheardthattheremaybesomedesiretoeliminatehikeandbiketrails.Yet,theCityofDallasalsopassedaresolutionwherewearesuppsedtoaccomodattheNorthCentralTexasCouncilofGovernments(NCTCOG)regionalplanforthetrailintheCottonBeltcorridor.Thisisjustadiscrepancythatwehavetoworkthrough.Therearethingsrelativetothestations,gradeseparations,thewallsandothermitigations.Aswegothroughourdesignandenvironmentalprocess,youwillfindthattherewillhavetobealittlegiveandtakewithalloftheresolutionsandhowtheprojectcomesintofruition.Aswesaid,thereisstillabout60daysworthofworktogetupthroughtheendofNovemberwherewewillstarttobeabletoshowveryspecificdetailsabouthowfastthetrainwouldoperateandwherethestationswillbe.
AryehRodinHowmanystationsdiditspecificallysayintheresolution?
SteveSalinItsaidthreestations:westofCoitRoad,PrestonRoadandKnollTrail.
JohnHoppieTheyfollowedupwitharesolutionlastyearthatsaidallstationsinDallaswouldbewithinthreemiles.
SteveSalinSomeofthosethingsweredonerightbeforewedidthedesignwork.Itmayhavebeenabitpremature.Wearetryingtoworkthroughthedetails.ItisagoodideatohavestationsinNorthDallas,butnotnecessarilyatthethreestationsthatweareplanningon.
AryehRodinWillthatmeanyoustillmighthavetwootherlocations?
SteveSalinWemightsaythatthestationatKnollTrailmightmakethemostsense,butevenifweputthestationatKnollTrail,itisstillawfullyclosetothestationinAddison.Evenifitisinacommercializedareathatwouldhavemorewalking,butstillallowedforbustransfersandthatsortofthing,that’sabetterstationthantheonelocatedatPrestonRoadfortheexactsamereasonsthathavebeennamed.
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ThomasRoshelle–AttendeeWhatisthemaximumfrequencyofvehiclesperhourandperdayforsingletrackversusdoubletrack?Whatisthetopspeedforsingleversusdoubletrack?
JohnHoppieWearedoingthemodelingnow,butthefrequencyofthetrainwillvarywhetherwewillhaveonetrackversustwotracks.Enoughdoubletrackareaswithinthecorridorwillachieve20minuteheadwaysorfrequencyineachdirection.Weareprojectingtoopenthesystemat30minuteheadways.Wearegoingtohavesomesingletrackandsomedoubletracksections.Itwillmaintainthesamespeeds.
ThomasRoshelleWhyistheresomuchemphasisinmatchingthevehicletotheoneinFortWorth?
JohnHoppieWesharetwostationswiththem.Wehavetomatchvehicleheightexactlyoratsomevariation.Wearealsolookingathowsomeofthetrainswillenterthestationsgoingintotheairportsothatourtraincanstopattheirstations.
ThomasRoshelleHavetherebeenanydiscussionsonhavingtheexistingDARTvehiclesstoppingattheairportandthenthatpersonwouldthentransferontotheFortWorthvehicle?Wouldthatopenupmoreopportunity?
TimMcKayWearegoingthroughthatexerciserightnow.ThereisprobablyfiveorsixrailvehiclemanufacturersthatmeetthecriteriahereintheUnitedStates.Thereisreallynobodythatmanufacturersthemhereunlesstheyshipthepartsandthenareassembledhere.However,theyaregettingcloser.AllofthedistancebetweentracksmeetgeneralstandardsforpassengerrailhereinTexas.Forplatformclearance,wehavetolookatthewidthofthevehicletomakesurewedon’thavebiggaps.Thisisgenerallynotconsideredasstructural,butmoresocosmetic.
ItisnotjustlimitedtocopyingwhateverFortWorthhas.IwilltellyouthesamethingthatIhavetoldthem.Forcircumstancesthatarereallytheirbusiness,notmine,theyarepayingwaymoreforthatvehiclethantheyshouldbe.Idon’tthinkitwouldbeagoodideaforusoranybodyelsetowalkintoasolesourcelikethat.Ijustdon’tthinkyou’regoingtogetcompetition.
Inabout30days,IwillbeinAtlantameetingwiththegroupofmanufacturers.Wehavea60percentspecificationforthevehiclethatwillbedonenextweek.Wearegoingtoputitoutforanindustryreview.Iwillgoandtalktoallofthemanufacturersthathaveexpressedinteresttomakesurethatwetrulygetthebestvehicle.
Theinterestindoingthisisthatwewillactuallyhavethenoiseprofilesforallofthis.Thiswillhaveanimpactonwhichvehicletochoosefromthestandpointofmitigation.Allofthisiskindofinterralated.Weareinthatpartwhereweareprovidinginputandsiftoutthebestthingsfortheplan,thatworkforallofus.Wecanthenmaketherecommendation,eithertotheDARTBoardorDallasCityCouncil,andsaythisistheattributesofourprojectthatseemtoworkverywell.
CookiePeadonIthinkoneofthefrustrationsthateverybodyherefeelsisthatrailisgoingtobebuiltinourbackyards.
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Wealsodonotseeanyviableusablestationforourbenefit.WeseetheproposedPrestonRoadstationthathasnoparking,whicheliminatesalotofusage.Thepointis,IdonotthinkweareagainsthavingarailinNorthDallas,oratleasthavesomeservice,butithastoserveasausablebenefit.
IalmostcameoutofmychairwhensomeonesaidwedidnotwantanytrainsinNorthDallas.Ifweweregoingtohavetoputupwiththetrains,itwouldbenicetousethetrains.Wearenotseeingitasarealisticoptionatthispoint.Maybeit’stimeforaself-drivingcar.
TimMcKayFairenough.WehavebeenfocusedintheNorthDallaslocations.SteveandIwerejusttalking.Wewillputalittleextrabrainpowertoseeifwecancomeupwithalternateideas.Ifthatissomethingthatyou’reinterestedin,wewouldbemorethanhappytotakealook.Itmayverywellbeatracklesscorridor.
FrankPolma–HomeownerDoyouhavesomesortofcontractwithAdventureLanding?Presumptively,ifyouputastationthere,Iwouldlikethat.IwoulduseUbertogetthere.Doyouhavesomesortofeminentdomain?JohnHoppieAtthispoint,wearenotallowedtohaveanydiscussionaboutthat.Thepropertystillhastogothroughtheenvironmentalprocess.Thereareafewexceptionssuchasifthepropertyownerisgoingthroughhardshipbecauseoftheprojevt.Weidentifywhatthepropertyisandbegindialoguewiththeproperty.Wedonothaveeminentdomainpowersourselves.WegothroughtheCityofDallaswhenthatisneeded.WaltMarstonHowwillthecommunityopenhousesbeadvertised?LawrenceMeshackItwillbeonthecommunicatedthroughnormalmeasuressuchastheDARTwebsite,wordofmouth,emailnotificationsandthemedia.WaltMarstonItwillnotbemailedout?LawrenceMeshackNosir.Thereisanelectronicmechanismforsomefolksbutnotconventionalmailing.Isn’tthatrightRosa?RosaRosteetThat’scorrect.Wearenotgoingtomailany.Letusknowifyouwantustomailittoaparticularneighborhood.Wewillalsopostthemonsocialmediaandemailblasts.Wedoalotofsocialnetworkinganddigitalformsofcommunication,includinginSpanish.WaltMarstonOnethingthatIthinkpeoplearegoingtowanttoknowiswhereweareintheprojectandwhatwehavelearnedsofar.Peoplearegoingtowanttoknowwhatisnext,andwhatkindoftimelinetoexpect.Isthatgoingtobepresented?
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JohnHoppie(Referencesslidewithprojectscheduleinformation)SusanThompson–CampbellGreenNeighborhoodAssociationWillthetrainstartrunningin2022?JohnHoppieYes,endof2022.TimMcKayLetmeclarifysothatyoudonotleavewithamisimpression.Inordertodorevenueservicein2022,wewillneedtodotesttrainsandwewillbesafetycertified.Youwillstarttoseeactivityprobablyinlate2021orearly2022.Therewillbevehiclesouttherethatwewillbetesting,tryingtomakesureallofthesystemsarelinedupandworkingtogetherpriortoservice.SusanThompsonHowmanyvehicleswillberunningwhentheservicebegins?TimMcKayTherearesomevehiclemanufacturersthatsayweoperatewithasfewaseightvehicles.Becauseyouhavetohavemaintenanceonsome,mysuspectatthispointintimeiseightto12inordertorunserviceatcontinuousheadways.Thinkaboutthisfromasingleanddoubletrackstandpoint.Oneofthebenefitsofdoubletrackingmeansthattheycanactuallydomaintenanceduringthedaybecausewecanusetheothertrack.Youcanthinkaboutthatinregardstohowitcanhaveanimpactinyourcommunity.Ifwehavejustasingletrackthroughtherewhenwehavetodomaintenance,thatmeanswewouldneedtoclosetherailatnight.Therearesomebenfitstodoubletracking.Itdoesnotalwaysmeanwearegoingtopushmoretrain.Itmayalsomeanthatweareabletoperformsomemaintenanceactivitiesduringthedaybecausewecanessentiallyshifttracksandrunonasingletrack.Sotherearesomeoperationalflexibilitytothinkaboutthereaswell.ScottGorenc–AttendeeYouwillneedtodomaintenanceatnightright?TimMcKayTherearesomethingsonsingletrackthatwehavetodoatnight.ThisisadiscussionthatIwanttohaveatthenextfocusgroupmeeting.Wewillhavemoreinformationonthemodeling.Insomeareaswhereyouonlyhaveasingletrack,itisoftentimesunavoidable.FrankPolmaWhatkindsofthingsneedtobedoneatnight?Areyougoingtoaddressgrinding?TimMcKayGrindingisoneofthethingsthatwehavetodo.Wearegoingtogetaprofileoftherailandaprofileofthewheel.Periodically,we’regoingtohavetogrindthatrailinordertokeepthatinterfaceasminimalaspossible.Ideally,thewheelcontactstherail,kindofanellipticallookingdown.Thatistheonly
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interfacewiththerail.Thatgetswiderbecausethetrackisonaprofileanditbringsmorenoise.Grindingisanexcruciatingthingforsomeofyou.Thereisalwaysneverarighttimetodoit.Anothertaskistrackdressing.Whentheyneedtoadjustthetrack,youmaywanttocheckthatthetrackisinagoodalignmentvertically,aswellashorizontally.Thiswillreducethenoiseandmakeforbetterrides.Thesearethepredominantthings,andofcourseregularmaintenance.FrankPolmaJusthearingallofyourpoints,Ithinkitisagoodideatododoubetrack.TimMcKayThinkaboutitforaminute.Idon’twanttomakeanydecisionsforyou.Iwanttogiveyouenoughinformation.SusanThompsonIsdoubletrackingmorecosteffective?TimMcKayAbsolutely.Notonlywillitbecosteffectivebutitisalsolessdisruptionforyourcommunity.Rightnow,becausetherearenoconcretedecisions,wearegoingtodesigncompletelysothatwhateverweputintoplace,wewillnotneedtore-alignanything.Intheeventthatyoumightthinkthroughthis,wehopeyoufinditabrightideafromalessdisrpuptionstandpoint.DebTarantinoInoneoftheNCTCOGmeetngs,IheardsomebodysaythattheylovetheideaofpeopletravellingfromFortWothtoPlano.Ifwedothatonthesametrack,oneperseat,aretherethesamenoiseabatementsforourneighborhood?JohnHoppieWeareusingtheFLIRTvehiclethatTexRailisputtinginaspartofournoiseanalysis.TimMcKayThathastodowithallthevehiclenumbersandthenoiseprofiles.Thesmartthingforustodoisusetheexistingtrainouttheretousesomethingmoreconservativethanthemitigation.That’sthereasonwhyweareinterestedinwhichtrainmakesthemostnoise.Wehavetoknowalltheprofilesofthetrainsthatenterthecorridor.DebTarantinoAretheTexRailvehiclesgoingtohavethesamestandardastheonethebeingusedalongourcorridor?TimMcKayTheanswerisyes.Moreimportantly,wewantedtoplanourmitigationforanythingandeverythingthat’soutthere.DebTarantinoAreallthesetrainsgoingtohavesecuritycameras?Peoplemaybetravelingearlyinthemorningorreallylateatnight.
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TimMcKayYestheywill.JohnHoppieCouncilwomanGreyson,doyouhaveanythingtoadd?SandyGreysonIjustwantedtotouchonacoupleofpoints.Firstofall,Ibelievethattherearevirtuallynochancesthatthereisgoingtobeanythingotherthanwhatyousaw.TheNCTCOGhasagroupcalledtheRegionalTransportationCommission(RTC)thatmakespolicyontheentirenorthcentralTexasregion.I’vebeenontheirpolicyboardfor15yearsandtheyhavesaidforyearsthattheywantthetrainstobethesameoneverycommuterrailline.TheywantthecommuterrailstobeexactlylikeTexRailoralmostexactlylikeit.Theywantthesametraintobeabletogothrougheverycommuterraillineinourwholeregion.TheywanttodomorecommuterraillinesthanjusttheCottonBelt,forexample,theywanttodoanorth-southrail.Oneofthemainreasonswhytheywantthesamevehicleisbecausetheywanttoattractthevehiclemanufacturertocometoourarea.Ibelievetheirgoalistomakealltherailcarsthesame.Theremaybetinylittledifferences.Timsaysheisgoingtotalktoabunchofmanufacturersm,butbasicallywhatDARTshowedyouiswhatyouaregoingtoget.Idon’tthinkwearegoingtohaveawholelotofabilitytochangewhatthatvehiclelookslike.Ialsowantedtomentiontoyouthatthe2006CityofDallasresolutioncalledforlightrailontheCottonBeltcorridor.Therearejustawholelotofthingsthathavechangedinthe11yearssincethatcameoutoftheDallasCityCouncil.Atthesametimethatresolutionwasbeingtalkedabout,therewasalsoadiscussionatcityhallaboutDARTupdatingitssystemplan,whicharetheplansforwhattobuildinthefuture,whentobuilditandwhichraillineswillbedonefirst.TheDallasCityCouncilsubmittedalistof10projectsthattheywantedtoseedoneinDallas.Theseincludedraillinesinthesouthernandnorthernpartsofthecity.Theyprioritizedthem.Theywantedsomeraillinesinthesouthernpartofthecitytobedonefirst.ThereisonlysomuchmoneysotherewasadiscussionhadaboutLBJFreeway.IagreewithMattearlierthatitmakesabsolutelynosensetodotheCottonBeltwhenyoucandoalineatLBJ.TheCottonBeltmighthelpthesuburbsbutitdoesn’tdoanythingforDallas.AnLBJlinewouldbeawonderfulbenefittotohelpusredevelopthatcorridor.ItmaybeacostlysolutioncomparedtotheCottonBelt.OurtwoNorthDallasrepresentativespickedtheCottonBelttobenumberthreeonthelistofprojectsoutof10,whereasLBJfellateithernineor10onthelist.ThoserepresentativesbasicallytoldDARTthattheybetterdotheCottonBeltbeforeeventhinkingaboutdoinganLBJline.Lookingbackatit,IhavetotellyouthatIamveryunhappywiththedecisions.Thisiswhywearewherewearetoday.IalsowantedtoaskDARTaboutthefundingsources.(Sandyreferencestheexhibitslistingfundinginformation)Youseesomethingtherefor$100millionfromtheFederalTransitAdministration.That’smoneycomingtoDARTfromthisRTCgroup.MichaelMorris,thedirectorofRTC,haspromisedthatRTCwillget$100millioninthosekindsoffundingifDARTagreestodoinnovativefinancing.WhereisDARTonthat?
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Iwilltellyouguysthatinnovativefinancingislikeapublic-privatepartnership.Ifyoubringinaprivategroup,thatgivesyousaysoinhowthatlineisdesigned,developedandoperated.Hewhohasthemoneywillmaketherules.TimMcKayAsyoucanimagine,inthemiddleofasolicitation,wearetryingtogetteamslinedup.WhenwehadameetingrecentlywiththeRTC,wehadateamwhoshowedupwithoutaproposal,whichwasveryconcerningtous.WesatdownwithMichaelMorrisandexplainedtohimourfinancing.IwasnotpartoftheconversationbutwhatIwastoldwasthathehasacceptedourfinancingpackageasbeinginnovativeenough.ThereisapparentlyanagendaitemcomingupthisThursdayattheRTCwhereitisexpectedthathewillsaythat.Initiallyhewaspushingforapublic-privatepartnership.SandyGreysonRight,hesaidhewouldnotgiveyouthe$100million,andthat’sgoingtoleadtomynextquestion,whichapparentlyismovednowsothat’sagoodthing.IfMichaelMorrisdidnotgiveyouthe$100million,howareyougoingtofinanceit?TimMcKayIwillstayawayfromthatone,unlessThursdayturnsouthowwedonotwantittoturnout.SandyGreysonSohehasagreednowthatDART’sfundingandfinancingisinnovativeenough.That’sreallyagoodthing.WeshouldbehappythatDARTdidthat.Thatmeansthat’snoprivateparticipation.AsmuchasDARTmakesmesoangrymostofthetime,inthisparticularinstance,IfinditagoodthingthattheywenttoMichaelandtheysaidnopublic-privatepartnership.ThelastthingIwanttotalktoyouaboutwastheformatforthemeetingtwoweeksfromnowonSept.25.WhenIwalkedintothatmeetinglastMay,Ihadabout30angrypeoplerunuptomethatdidnotapproveoftheformat.Theysaidtheyarenotgettinganythingoutofthis.Theyweregettingconflictinganswers,andtheyfeltitwasnotwhattheyneededinordertogettheinformationtheywanted.IthinkCookiewouldagree.Shegotalotofinputafterthemeetingfrompeoplewhosaidtheopenhouseformatwasnotforus.IwrotealettertoGaryThomas,DARTPresidentandExecutiveDirector,askinghimtochangetheformatfromanopenhousetoapresentationwithaquestionsandanswerssessionlikethismeetingtonight.Ifounditveryuseful.Ithinkwhat’sgoingtohappenatthisopenhouseformatistheattendanceisgoingtobepoor.Peopletoldmelasttimethattheyarenotcomingbacktoanythinglikeitagainbecauseitwasnotusefultothem.IaskedGarytochangetheformattoapresentationwithQ&A.DARThasanadvertisementinthenewspaperandhavethingseverywherethatsaysitisanopenhouse.IhopetheyrespondfavorablybecauseIreallyfeelitisnotveryusefultohaveanopenhouse.Wewillseewhathesays.Whenwehaveananswer,IwilldiscussitwithCookieandshewillhelpdisseminatetheinformationontheCottonBeltConcernedCitizensCoalitioninformationpage.IjustwanttoletyouallknowthatbecauseIsurelydon’twanttogetpeoplecomingtoameetingandleavingasangryastheywerelasttime.DanelleErickson-Atendee
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Sandy,whydoyouthinkDARTchosetodoanopenhouseformatanyway?SandyGreysonDARTbelievesopenhousesareagoodwaytogettheinformationout.DebTarantinoItwasapoorwaytogettheinformationout.MaybeinAddison,theyjustwanttoseetheprettypicturesofwhatmightbe.However,thisthingisinmybackyardandIwanttoknowwhatisgoingon.No,Idon’tjustwanttoseetheprettypicturesthatmayormaynotevencomeintofruition.Forourneighborhood,Ihadsomanypeoplecallingmeangry.SandyGreysonThethingthatdisappointedmewasthatImentionedittoGaryafterthelastmeetingandsodidhisboardmemberwhowasthere.Sodidalotofpeople.Heisstillschedulinganopenhouse,whichItoldhiminthelettermaybefinewiththeothercommunities.Theymightlikethat,butwedon’tlikethat.IwillletyouknowonceIgetaresponsefromhimandhopefullyitistherightresponse.BobMooreWhatdoyouthinkaretheoddsofgettingridofsomeofthesestations?SandyGreysonIthinktheoddsareprettygood.Atsomepoint,IamgoingtotheDallasCityCounciltovoteonaresolutionaboutstations,mitigationanddifferentthings.Youseehowmuchresolutionsworkwhentheychangethingsupfrom2006.However,Ithinkatthispointintheirdesignandplanning,DARTwillpayattentiontotheresolutionfromtheDallasCityCouncilandwewillhavetofigureoutwhichstationswethinkwewant.IfDARTapproachesthecityandasksforeminentdomainforAdventureLandng,Iamgoingtosayno100times.Remember,theycannotdoitwithoutourapproval.TherewillprobablybeaKnollTraillstation.Therearelike1,000apartmentsnearKnollTrailifyoutalkabouttransitorienteddevelopments.IthinkevenDARTagreesthatthePrestonRoadstationmakesnosensewhatsoever.WecancontinuediscussionsabouttheCoitRoadstation.Italsodoesn’tmakesenseforcommuterraillinestobethatclosetogether.Wehavelikefivestationsin4miles.LawrenceMeshackThankyouMs.Greyson.Wehopetoseeeachofyouintwoweeks.Althoughwehavetobeoutofthebuildinginafewminutes,wewillbearoundforanyquestionsyoumighthave.Thankyouforcomingout.
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• AFG Concerns• Design Update
– Alignment/Cross-section/Stations• Environmental Update
– Documentation of Existing Conditions• Traffic Update• Ridership• Community Integration• Community Open Houses
Agenda
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• AFG is seeking further assurance through binding resolution or codification that freight will be abandoned permanently in North Dallas
• AFG has requested elimination of some or all of North Dallas Stations
• AFG requests that DART consider alternate vehicles such as hydrogen cell which may be quieter.
AFG Concerns
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AFG is seeking further assurance through binding resolution or codification that freight will be abandoned permanently in North Dallas• DART has actively sought and achieved the
abandonment of freight in North Dallas through Surface Transportation Board action (January 27, 2010)
• DART has no plans to reintroduce freight into the corridor
• Current design focuses on community integration of passenger rail only. Freight is not part of the environmental documentation in North Dallas
AFG Concerns
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AFG has requested elimination of some or all of North Dallas Stations• There is both opposition and support for the North
Dallas stations• All stations are being cleared environmentally• DART Board has requested to participate in the
station location process• City of Dallas Council Resolution #161692; October
11, 2016
AFG Concerns
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City of Dallas Resolution
City of Dallas Council Resolution #161692, October 11, 2016
Section 1. That the City Council has identified its highest immediate priorities for improved transit services, and urges the DART Board to include these projects for priority implementation in their 2017 20-Year Financial Plan in this order:
2. Expedited implementation of expanded bus services targeted toward the transportation needs of low income and transit-dependent riders. The City Council requests that DART develop, adopt and implement a Level of Service policy consistent with transit industry best practices including but not limited to the following service area metrics:
e. Transit rail stations should be within 3 miles of all service areas within theCity of Dallas to support multi-modal transportation options;
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Cotton Belt CorridorArea Focus Group (AFG)North DallasSeptember 11, 2017
John Hoppie, Capital Planning
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City of Dallas Resolution
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AFG requests that DART consider alternate vehicles such as hydrogen cell which may be quieter.• Hydrogen cell vehicle are being tested in Germany but
have not been qualified for use in the USA.• Proposed vehicle is state-of-the art for Regional Rail
available in USA• Vehicle procurement will not exclude qualified
alternative vehicle*
AFG Concerns
* FRA Compliant* Buy America Compliant* TEXRail Compatible* Comparable Operating Costs* Fuel availability* EPA Tier IV Emission Standards* DART Size Requirements 9
Regional Rail Vehicle• Regional Rail Vehicle• Environmentally and Community Friendly
– Tier 4 EPA Emissions Standards– Noise similar to LRT
• Meets FRA Standards• Compatible with TEX Rail (FLIRT)• Self-propelled
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Revised Drawings: (Double Track Scenario)• Horizontal alignment• Vertical alignment• Typical sections
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Typical Sections: Initial Build
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Typical North Dallas Cross-section
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Design Update: Stations
Revised Station Location and Length (350-foot)• Side Platform Concept• Center Platform Concept• Conceptual Architectural Rendering• Station Plan Views
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Proposed North Dallas Stations
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Knoll Trail Station
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Preston Road Station
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Coit Station
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Existing Grade Crossings
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Proposed Traffic Mitigation
*Mitigation could include: Signal synchronization, intersection improvements, or adding capacity
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LOCATION (North Dallas AFG) CITY DRAFT GRADE CROSSING ANALYSIS
MITIGATIONREQUIRED
Davenport E-W Dallas No mitigation required No
Campbell Dallas No mitigation required No
Davenport Road N-S Dallas No mitigation required No
Hillcrest Dallas Potential for some mitigation. Yes*
McCallum Dallas No mitigation required No
Meandering Dallas No mitigation required No
Dickerson Dallas No mitigation required No
COIT Dallas Analysis reconfirms need for grade separation of CoitRoad Yes
*Mitigation could include: Signal synchronization, intersection improvements, or adding capacity
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A noise monitoring program has been initiated to characterize the existing noise conditions at representative noise-sensitive receptors along the Cotton Belt Corridor.• Noise Monitors* were installed at
27 locations to collect long-term (24- hour) noise measurements along the corridor.
• Noise Monitors* were installed at 11 locations to measure short-term noise (1 hour).
*Noise Monitors were NTi Audio model XL2 that conform to American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Standard S1.4 for Type 1 (Precision) sound level meters
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• Assessment• Identification of Impacts (Per FTA Criteria)• Recommend Mitigation • Generally Quiet Zones will be recommend along
the most of the corridor
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Community IntegrationCommunity Integration features such fences, walls, trails, landscaping, etc. will be incorporated into the project subsequent to identification of impacts and required mitigation.• DART will work in cooperation with NCTCOG and local
jurisdictions for implementation community integration features.
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STATION NAME
DAILY RIDERSHIP
Opening Day 2040DFWIA AB Terminal Station 1,200 1,200North DFW Station 800 1,300Cypress Waters Station 200 900Downtown Carrollton Station 1,000 2,000Addison Station 1,000 1,700Knoll Trail Station 500 600Preston Rd Station 300 500Coit Rd Station 600 700UT Dallas Station 700 900CityLine/Bush Station 1,000 1,40012th Street Station 200 300Shiloh Station 400 700
Total 7,900 12,200
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Trails
Trails:• DART will work in cooperation with NCTCOG and
local jurisdictions for implementation of trails along corridor
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Open HousesMonday, September 18, 2017, 6:30 p.m.DeWitt Perry Middle School Cafeteria1709 East Belt Line Road, Carrollton, TX 75006(Parking and entrance off Warner Street)
Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 6:30 p.m.Richardson Civic Center411 West Arapaho Road, Richardson, TX 75080
Monday, September 25, 2017, 7:00 p.m.Parkhill Junior High School Cafeteria16500 Shady Bank Drive, Dallas, TX 75248
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Noise
• Noise impact analysis will determine where sound walls are required.
• DART will work in cooperation with local jurisdictions for consideration of additional walls
• Quiet Zones will be recommend at residential areas along corridor
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Notice of DART Community Open Houses
Cotton Belt Regional Rail Corridor ProjectYou are invited to attend a community open house to review the progress of the Cotton Belt Regional Rail Corridor Project. DART, in cooperation with the Federal Transit Administration (FTA), the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), is preparing an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) to assess the impacts and benefits of passenger rail service on the 26-mile long Cotton Belt Corridor from DFW International Airport to Plano. Open house displays will include: • Updated alignment drawings and station layout;• Results of Traffic/Grade Separation Analysis; and • Identification of existing conditions along the corridor including, parks, cultural
resources, land uses, etc. This series of open house meetings will focus on existing conditions along the corridor and information learned in the data collection phase of the project. Future public meetings will focus on corridor impacts and mitigation.
Dates & Locations
Monday, September 18, 2017, 6:30 p.m.DeWitt Perry Middle School Cafeteria
1709 East Belt Line Road, Carrollton, TX 75006 (Parking and entrance off Warner Street)
Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 6:30 p.m.Richardson Civic Center
411 West Arapaho Road, Richardson, TX 75080
Monday, September 25, 2017, 7:00 p.m.Parkhill Junior High School Cafeteria
16500 Shady Bank Drive, Dallas, TX 75248
For More InformationPlease visit DART.org/cottonbelt or contact DART Community Engagement at 214-749-2522.
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