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Horner History.
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Australia. So a new life in South Australia began for the family with Nathan being employed as a
stone mason.
Throughout his life he continued as a stone mason building bridges, houses and roads
but more of that in another article.
The following account of the family in Australia has been checked and verified as far as possible
against actual source material.
Of the children of Nathan and Anne Wells who came to South Australia in 1894 on the Dirigo.
The eldest, MaryAnn Horner married John Simmons, a widower, and a man seventeen years
her senior, on 1st January 1873 at the residence of the Reverend C. Manthorpe, in Glenelg,
South Australia.
It was John’s second marriage. His first wife also called Mary, died in 1872
John Simmons, a blacksmith and son of Henry Simmons, came from Liverpool in 1839 aged
twenty two.
John died in 1894 aged 77 years at Blackwood, South Australia.
His occupations include storekeeper, quarry worker, blacksmith, and Publican.
* In 1851 he built and became the Licensee of the Blythewood Inn at Torrens Park. Mitcham.
The Blythewood Inn was de-licensed in 1912, and demolished in 1958.
In 1853 John built Blythewood cottage at Anderson creek.
Next he worked for Samuel Saunders in his quarry whilst it seems that Sam then became
licensee of the Blythewood Inn.
By 1857 John was again licensee of the Blythewood Inn.
In 1862 he subdivided his 10 acres by Anderson creek into 24 allotments and named the suburb
Blythe Woodville. Two streets bear the names John and Mary the latter after his first wife.
Blythewood is now part of Torrens Park.
It seems that John met Mary Ann Horner through his associations with Sam Saunders and
Nathan Horner.
Mary Ann Horner/Simmons died on 21st November 1910, also at Blackwood South Australia.
Both she and John are buried in the Mitcham Cemetery.
Henry Horner the next child of Nathan and Ann I think died in Victoria in 1855 aged eighteen.
Little is known of him, but being the eldest son, he may have joined many who went to the
goldfields in Victoria. (1854-5) Maybe Henry thought to strike gold and make his fortune
further a-field. Unfortunately this was not to be.
I found this record in Victoria many years ago. It is more than a coincidence.
Australia Vital records, Reg. No 2887
Victoria
Henry Horner d. 1855
Age 18
Born, 1837 in England.
Note : 1837 is Henry’s birth year in England.
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The second son Nathan Isaac Horner married MaryAnn Saunders on 26th
February 1866.
Nathan’s younger sister Eliza Horner and her husband William Wooding were witnesses at the
wedding. Eliza and William had married two years earlier in 1864.
MaryAnn Saunders was born in Horsley, Gloucestershire on the 28th
January 1848. Her parents
were Samuel Saunders and Harriot Harvey. .
Samuel Saunders was born on 25th
April 1824 in Horsley, Gloucestershire.
The 1841 census lists the following family for him:
James Saunders age 50 years, Agricultural Labourer;
Susan Saunders age 49 years,
Samuel Saunders age 16,
Daniel Saunders age 14 years,
James age 11 years and
Elizabeth age 8 years
The 1841 census of Horsley, Gloucestershire.
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Harriot Harvey, Mary Anne’s mother was born on the 28th
August, 1825 also in Horsley,
Gloucestershire. She and Samuel were married in Horsley on the 7th
December 1845.
Information from their marriage certificate shows that both Harriot and Samuel made their mark
with a cross, with Samuel’s father given as James Saunders, and Harriot’s father as Thomas
Harvey.
Samuel’s parents were Susannah Brinkworth (Bunkworth) and James Saunders. They
married on 3rd October 1816 in Horsley, Gloucestershire, England.
Samuel was the eldest at 16yrs and his siblings were Daniel 14yrs, James 11yrs and Elizabeth
8yrs in the 1841 census.
Harriot’s parents were Maria Webb and Thomas Harvey and they married in Horsley on the
16th
September 1807. Harriot was their eighth child.
The Harvey children were
James was born about 1808 and baptised in St Martins Church on 11th
of April 1814. He died in
1828 and was buried in the grounds of St Martins Church Horsley on May 18th
1828.
Samuel was born about 1810 and baptised on the same day as James. He married twice in
England before going to Australia in 1851on the Oregon. Son Jesse was also on board. He died
at Yacka in South Australia.
Elizabeth born in 1812 was baptised on April 14th
the same day as her two elder brothers. She
married Thomas Brinkworth of Nailsworth. They arrived in South Australia aboard the
Somersetshire in 1839 with three of their four children, one having died at sea.
They had a total of ten children. Elizabeth died in 1881 and Thomas in 1892.
Peter was born in 1816 and died in 1821. He is buried in Horsley.
Jane was born about 1818 but nothing more is known of her.
Ann was born in 1820 and died in Freeling South Australia in 1891.
Peter the 2nd
was born in 1822 and died at Walkerville South Australia in 1875
Harriet was born in 1825 and died at Lower Mitcham South Australia in 1873
Thomas jr was born in 1827 and died at Crystal Brook South Australia in 1890
James the 2nd
was born about 1830 and died at Nailsworth South Australia in 1888.
The wife of Thomas Harvey, Maria Webb was born on June 8th
1788. She had many siblings one
of whom was a younger sister Harriot, spelt with an O.
Her parents, John Webb and Sarah Manning were married on the 9th
September 1787. The
other siblings of Maria found when searching this family were Mercy, Peter, Jesse, and Sarah.
Visiting St Martins church, Horsley in Gloucestershire we found inside the church the following
plaque:
Entrance to
Dan’l Saunders
Vault
Also in the church itself are three early memorials for the Webb family.
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In the church yard are adjacent headstones which read:
In Memory of
Thomas and Maria Harvey
also of
their son James
Thomas departed this life
Feb 7th
1866
These stones were erected at the expense
of their family in South Australia
The second memorial is for another Harvey family. It is possible that John is a brother of
Thomas, with relatives in Australia.
In
the memory of
JOHN HARVEY of this parish
who departed this life
January 11th
1854
Aged 53 years
Also of SARAH youngest daughter of
JOHN and ELIZABETH HARVEY
Who died December the 17th
1870
Aged 17 years
Also of the above
ELIZABETH HARVEY who died
October 7, 1877, aged 66 years
On the June 11th
1850 Harriot and Samuel Saunders with MaryAnne aged two, arrived in
South Australia on the sailing ship The Stag .
Samuel is listed as a Cornish miner. This is possibly so that he could get a passage on a ship that
left from Plymouth, which is quite a journey from Horsley.
Three more children were born to Harriot and Samuel Saunders in Australia.
Harriot Saunders b: 11th
January 1855?
Henry James Saunders b: 17th
February 1858 d: 19th
November 1944. He went to Victoria.
Elizabeth Saunders** b: 7th
February 1863 d: 9th
March 1941; married Edward Holly and they
head an extensive family in South Australia of Hollies, McMillans, and Kings.
Samuel Saunders b: 31st March 1867 d: 7
th August 1950. He also went to Victoria where he
married twice. Firstly to Catherine Everitt in 1891 having one daughter Elsie and then to
Dorothea Anderson in June 1913. There were five children by this marriage.
Harriot senior died in 1873 of cancer and is buried in North Road cemetery, whilst her
husband Samuel re-married the much younger Ellen Baker in 1874. She was born in 1841
and her Parents were Job Baker and Ellen Halliday who married in1838 and had a large family.
Samuel died on the 1st March 1885 and is buried in Mitcham cemetery. Ellen died in 1920 at the
Grange.
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Nathan Isaac Horner and Mary Ann Saunders had 9 children:
Henry Samuel born on the 2nd
July 1866 at Mitcham; Christened 11th
Nov 1866, and died on
the 22nd
May 1944;
married 1st Emily Steer, born 28.3.1860; died 27.6.1913; married 19 June 1886.
2nd.
Francis Lloyd, born 1868, died 26th
June 1956 they married on the 18th
April, 1914.
Henry’s brother, C L Horner a cycle builder, was a witness at the wedding.
An advertisement in the SA Sands and McDougall Almanack for 1921 gives his place of work
as Horner’s Motor House 104-106 Pirie Street.
Nathan Isaac born on the 19th
March 1868 at Blythewood (Mitcham), South Australia. At 19,
and working as a bricklayer he went to Victoria where he married May Constable a farmers
daughter in February 1892. He died on 6th
December 1892 ten months later at Kyneton Victoria
aged 24 of cerebro spinal meningitis.
Clara Anne born on the 3rd
March 1870 at West Mitcham.
Clara married Thomas Osborne on the 12th
March 1890.
Thomas was born in 1860 at Angaston.
His parents were Thomas Osborne and Mary Savage.
They came to Australia aboard the William Prowse from Somerset in August 1854.
Thomas died in April 1915 at Norwood age 55yrs. I have his Bible.
Clara died 13th
June 1932 at Unley and is buried in Mitcham cemetery.
Ellen (Nellie) born 15th
February 1872 at Mitcham, died in childbirth on the 14th May 1904;
married Thomas Charles Samuel Clayton on the 17th July 1894 at St Lukes Church, Adelaide.
He was born about 1860 died 13th
July 1938 Adelaide South Australia.
Frederick born at Yacka 10th
October 1875, died 13th
February 1940, in South Australia and is
buried in Payneham cemetery.
Married 1st Mary Catherine Dixon
2nd
Constance Olive Bowering, widow on 21st May 1927, at the Residence of John
Hicks, Fullarton Estate, South Australia. She was born 22nd
May 1885, Glen
Osmond S.A. and died 3rd
January 1954, Adelaide, South Australia.
Arthur born 23rd
September 1877 at Crystal Brook; died Ackland Hill 23rd
July 1951,
Married Fanny Maria Baldwin, on the 23rd
May 1900 at the residence of Mrs Horner,
Parkside, South Australia. She was born 22nd
February 1869, Echunga, South Australia; died
15th November 1952, Eastwood, South Australia.
Elizabeth Mai born 27th
March 1880 at Crystal Brook, died in NSW 26th
May 1968;
married 1st Frank Roland Harvey on the 10
th August 1905. He was born 20
th February 1880
Leicester, UK. He died in N.S.W on the 21st Sept 1910, of Meningitis, but family
records suggest he was buried in South Australia.
His parents were William Harvey and Jane Brocklesby, born in Derby, married in
Leicester England; died in South Australia.
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2nd
Thomas (Tom) James Falvey, on the 3rd
April 1926, Bondi, NSW.
Tom was born in Sydney N.S.W. about 1888 and died on the 2nd
July 1970, at
Bondi.
Tom is listed as a correspondence clerk and Mai as a costumier on their marriage
certificate. Tom’s parents were John Falvey, a storeman and his wife was Marie
Josephine Foley.
Alice Beatrice born 27th
February 1883, West Mitcham, died 24th
July 1977 Adelaide; and is
buried in Mitcham cemetery.
married Charles Edward Sutton on the 8th
June 1910. He was born about 1881 at Rotheram
near Sheffield, and died 12th
February 1958, Colonel Light Gardens, Adelaide South Australia;
He is also buried in Mitcham cemetery.
Charles Lindsay was born April 6th
1885 at West Mitcham, and died, 19th
June, 1947.
He married Catherine Olive Mary Crundwell on the 15th
August 1904 at St Mary Magdalene
Church, Adelaide South Australia. She was born 28th
October, 1884, Angle Grove South
Australia and died 19th
August 1946, Magill, South Australia.
Both are buried together in Paynham cemetery South Australia.
Nathan Isaac Horner died in May 1909 at Brighton.
Mary Anne Horner (Saunders) his wife died at the home in Colonel Light Gardens of her
youngest daughter Alice Beatrice Sutton on 13th
November 1929. I have her Bible.
Eliza Horner the fourth child of Nathan and Ann Wells married William Wooding on the 31st
January 1864 in North Adelaide.
William was born in born Q4 1840 in Yardley Hastings, Northhamptonshire, England, and was
the son of Joseph Wooding and Elizabeth Eyre.
He was a carter and died on the16th
September, 1919 at Victor Harbour in South Australia.
Joseph an agriculture labourer, his wife Elizabeth Eyre and son William a ten year old at the
time had arrived on the vessel Oregon on the 2nd
November 1851 along with Joseph eight, Eli
four, and Roseanna an infant. They had three more daughters in South Australia: Elizabeth
2.7.53; Mary Ann 12. 11. 1855; and Sarah Jane 1.10.1859.
On board the Oregon were another Wooding family. William also an agriculture labourer and
his wife Mary Ann (Lack) with children Elizabeth 10 and James 9 being listed as niece and
nephew, and then Jonathon 4 and William 1 as their own.
William and Mary Lack went on to have six more children in South Australia Mary Ann, b
14.9.1852, Josiah b 17.3.1856, Charles Henry b 23. 3. 1859, Charles Alfred b 18.11.1860,
Elizabeth Ann b 22.11.1861, Joseph Spencer b 11.8.1863
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Also on board the Oregon travelling as a single woman was Hessy/Epsebah Wooding, twenty
two, a servant, seemingly sister to William and William’s aunt. She went on to marry Isaac
Gould on the 14th
August 1854 at Macclesfield, South Australia and they had seven children
together. Sarah Ann 15. 3 1855: Elizabeth 6.4.1857: Mary Ann 10. 12. 1859: Emma 17.9.1862:
Isaac William 16. 2.1865: Martha Elder 25.12.1867: Hepzibah 28.7.1871
Eliza Horner and William Wooding had 3 children:
William Nathan Wooding b: 4th
August 1865 at Prospect Village; d: 17th
March 1868 at
Prospect, aged 3yrs old
Ruth Elizabeth Wooding b: 23rd
March 1869 at Prospect Village; d: Bowden on the Hill 13th
December 1883 aged 14 years old.
Florence May Wooding b 30th
August 1874 at North Adelaide. She married Hubert Coultas
on 7th
March 1900 in the Baptist church North Adelaide.
Born in 1873, Hubert was the son of Catherine Fredrickson and Thomas Coultas.
Florence and Hubert Coultas had two boys: Hubert Palmer Coultas born 29th
July 1901 and
Gordon William Coultas born 18th
March 1904.
Sarah Elizabeth Horner the last surviving child of Nathan and Ann married James Muir in
Adelaide on the 5th
December1866.
James was born in Scotland in 1844.
They had 4 children:
Sarah Elizabeth Muir b: 3rd
September 1867 in O’Halloran Hill, South Australia.
James Muir b: 19th
December 1868
Nathan William Muir b: 1870, Ballarat Victoria, died 1943 Ballarat Victoria.
Walter Muir b: 9th
May 1872/3 Unley Park / Ballarat, Victoria, died 30.3.1949 at Smiths
Gully, Victoria.
Sarah Elizabeth Muir nee Horner died on March 1st 1876 at the RAH Royal Adelaide Hospital.
Cause of death was diseased Enteric Glands. Two years earlier, also recorded at RAH, she had a
still born baby.
I think James then took the children back to Victoria after Sarah died. Certainly they had family
in Victoria.
Their daughter Sarah Elizabeth Muir married William Thomas in Richmond, Melbourne on
12th
November 1888. He was a Mining Expert from Broken Hill at this time.
They had three children.
Ethel Morton Thomas was born in 1889 at Northcote, in Victoria on 20th
October 1889. She
did not marry and died in Glenhuntly in September 1954.
After the birth of Ethel the family returned to South Australia where
Andrew William Thomas was born at Blackwood in May, 1891.
He married Josephine Richie ( Ina) Dobson from Glasgow.
They had two sons. Andrew died in Victoria in 1956.
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Cyril Percy Thomas was born at Blumberg (now Birdwood) on 21st December 1894.
He married Margaret Pond in 1921 and they had one son.
The family stayed in South Australia till about 1903 when they moved to Western Australia.
William died on 6th
August 1911 at Southern Cross, west of Coolgardie aged 59 yrs.
Sarah Elizabeth Thomas and the three children mentioned above are named as beneficiary in the
will of Mary Ann Simmons, nee Horner, wife of John Simmons, and eldest sister of Sarah
Elizabeth, nee Horner.
The IGI records for Ethel Morton Thomas and Andrew William Thomas show William Thomas
as there father, with Sarah Elizabeth or Lizzie Muir as the mother.
Sarah Elizabeth’s death at 93 is recorded on the IGI as Lizzie Muir. She outlived all her
children and her husband, the latter by 50 years.
Second son, James Muir? No details so many James’!
Their third son Nathan William Muir married twice:
1st
to Emily Naden 26th
.12.1866, b 22.5.1881 d.1948. They had four children:
Nathan 1904;
William Thomas, born 1906, and died Condoblin in 1931;
Elizabeth Mabel born Condoblin, September1909, died there 22nd
November 1910.
Josephine Mary, born 1909 Errebenderry NSW, died in Condoblin 1934; she married
Bertram Gordon Dixon b 1905. They have two daughters
2nd
to Sarah Jane Wilstencroft in Sydney in 1930. She was born in 1870 in Ballarat,
Victoria and died Hornsby NSW 1943. no issue.
Lastly Walter Muir married Jessie Charlotte Knevitt in Adelaide, 1893 or 1895.
They had:
George Maurice, born in Carlton in 1896
Ethel Rose, born in Fitzroy South in 1901
Anecdote
**There are families of Woodings (s) in South Australia coming from a different area of
England than our William Wooding . ‘Fanny Woodings’ who married Edward King is
distantly related.
I have worked out that there is a distant connection between these two families through
MaryAnne’s sister Elizabeth Saunders** who married Edward Holly and Nathan’s sister
Eliza who married William Wooding.
August, 2010
Liz Jackson
Hemel Hempstead
Hertfordshire.
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