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Cross Sector Working:The Challenges of Difference between Health
Organisation's and 3rd Sector
Presented by: Tarnia Woods CAMHS Clinical Lead
Stuart Parsons Chief Officer WFWStuart
Date: Insert the date here
The Journey • What we did
• What were the issues we faced
• How did we over come the issues
• What was the outcome
• What we would have done differently
• Top Tips for surviving
Ashton Wigan Leigh Partnership
Wigan Family Welfare
Bridgewater Tier 2
5 Boroughs Tier 3
Cross Sector WorkingCYP-IAPT
Navigating CYP-IAPT
Participation
Health / Specialist Service
• Service User participation
• Involving our young people
• Open only to young people who attend the service
3rd Sector / WFW
• Totally inclusive for all young people, parent /carers and professionals
• Anyone could be a customer
• Hearing the views of YP who are not in service
Health
3rd Sector
Participation
• Employed a participation workers
• Held a Focus Event
• Devised questionnaires
What should mental health services look like?
• Professional questionnaire: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/VLSR9BR
• Young Person’s questionnaire: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SBXD95W
• Parent/carer questionnaire: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/W789DK7
Participation
• Re-launch of our participation group • Raising Awareness and Breaking down Stigma
• Service Developments
• Promoting Wellbeing and Recovery
• Training
• Local Fixes
• Young People’s conference 22nd December
Accessibility
System Led – Choice / Partnership
Family Involvement
Agency involvement
Child Led Service – child directive
Only child Involvement
Very low DNA rate
Level of risk
Increasing lines of communication to ensure YP get the best service they need as quickly as possible
Accessibility
Case Study – Joint working across agencies
Development of an Advocacy Post
Role of Advocacy in cross agency working
Evidence Based Practice• Training
• CBT
• Parenting
• Supervisors training
• Service Leads
Challenges- How to meet the training requirements !
Health Challenges – 3rd sector challenges
Evidence Base Practice
• Did not use all places
• Trainees are completing courses
• Developed a stronger working relationship across partner agencies
Outcomes
Outcomes are a tick box exercise , not
relevant to therapeutic work
Person centred perspective – outcomes are not a priority we believe what the client says
No Relevance and no feedback
No Time / too busy
Outcomes
Activity Focused Activity Focused
Outcome Focused
Changing Hearts and Minds
Outcomes
• What did we do –
– Training in place
– Regular discussions in team meetings
– Agreed what we would do
• Challenge for 3rd Sector
– Action plans across all 3 partners
• Difference
– Ability to flex
What would we have done differently
Recognising Difference
• Although we all work in the same area we speak very differently !
• Service Transformation AND Partnership Transformation
• CYP-IAPT provides the tool !
Tops Tips
• Communicate, Communicate, Communicate
• Pillars of CYP-IAPT are for staff as well as service users
• Valuing our values
• In it together so have fun
Finally
Thank You
Exercise
• What is your experience of cross sector working ?
– What has worked well?
– What have the challenges been ?
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