can we learn from computer science to better cater to needs of water system users? (answer: no)

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Can we learn from computerscience to better cater to needs ofwater system users?(answer: no)

Nick van de GiesenErik Mostert

Numerical Modelling - Policy Interface1st Workshop - Stuttgart

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• What we are doing now• What we would like to be doing• Some ideas…

Outline

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What we are doing now

Computational

KERNEL

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What we are doing now

Computational

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SHELL

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What we are doing now

Computational

KERNEL

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MARKET

USERS

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What we are doing now

Computational

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???MARKET

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What we are doing now

Sobek

www.wldelft.nl

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What we are doing now

Sobek

www.wldelft.nl

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What we are doing now

WEAP

www.weap21.org

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What we are doing now

WEAP

www.weap21.org

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• Not difficult• Visualize model result• Not used by policy makers

What we are doing now

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What we would like to do

Computational

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Invert design process for (large)

Decision Support Systems

in Water Resources Management

(Application Science)

What we would like to do

Computational

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Has been done: Participatory modeling (AEM)Extensive experience 1980’s - now N.America/Australia

What we would like to do

Computational

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Has been done:

ComSci, Unified Modeling Language

What we would like to do

Computational

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What we would like to do

Has been done:

ComSci, Unified Modeling Language

Use cases

Computational

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What we would like to do

Has been done: ComSci, Unified Modeling Language

Use case Kernel

Computational

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What we would like to do

Has been done: Bidding process Maeslantkering

Computational

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What we would like to do

Has been done: Bidding process Maeslantkering

n metersclose 6 hrsno hindrance

Computational

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What we would like to do

Has been done: Bidding process Maeslantkering

Hennes de Ridder

Computational

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First ideas

• Inverting the design process• Our model: Building processes• Concrete place: Haaglanden

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First ideas

• Urban & regional planners

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First ideas

• Urban & regional planners

RedGreenBlue

15% blue…

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First ideas

• Urban & regional planners

RedGreenBlue

“OK”

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First ideas

• Urban & regional planners

RedGreenBlue

“Not OK”

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First ideas

• Urban & regional planners

RedGreenBlue

“OK again”

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• Urban & regional planners

Engineering challenge:

Add inter-activity

First ideas

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First ideas

In general, stating the obvious, to invert design process:

• Enter dialogue…• … move away from generic models

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Thank you!

Nick van de Giesen / Erik Mostertn.c.vandegiesen@tudelft.nlwww.wrm.tudelft.nl