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Advice Note on Motion 65 cut off date
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ADVICENOTE ADV-20-007-018 V1-0 0 01/10/to06/12/2016 Dr.PasiMiettinen Public 06/12/2016 01-31/12/2016
Source of comments Nr of respondents Economic North 8 Economic South 4 Social South 1 Environmental North 7 Environmental South 4 National Offices 4 Research Institute 1 Unspecified response in Portuguese 1
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ADVICE-20-007-018 3/Economic2/Environment
Economic:AdviceNotedoesnotspeakaboutICLThisadvicenoteisveryconfusing,bothinitsstructureanditscontent.Structure:a),Thenoticeshouldbemoreclearlyseparatedintotwosections;1stsectionbeingdirectedtoCHandCBsand2ndsectionbeingdirectedtoSDGs.b).Usingthesamenumberingforthetwooptionsunderadvice#2andthenumberingofrequirementsfor#1isn’thelpful.Environment:IdonotsupportthedraftAdviceNoteaswritten.Itistoovague.ItisnotconsistentwiththeintentofMotion65.ItseemsalsounfairinOption1clause1.1toaskSDGstoprovideupdatedworkplanswhentheadvicefromPSUand/ortheHCVTWGisalsonotclear.
Economic:RemoveICLfromtitleEnvironment:WestronglyencourageFSCtofullycomplywiththeintentofMotion65defaultindicatorbyputtinginplaceatemporaryhalttologginginatleast80%ofIFLsinFSCforests,untilrobustindicatorsareimplemented.ThisisthecleanestandsimplestwayofsafeguardingIFLswhileindicatorsarebeingdeveloped.
TheconceptofICLcannotberemoved,becauseitiselementarytotheCanadiandialogueandveryusefulforaddressingM65,points3and8.IncaseothercountrieshaveothersolutionsforengagingtheIndigenousPeople,theyareallowedtodroptheconcept.We’llsimplifythestructureofthenextversionoftheAdviceNote
Normativereference 3/Economic
Economic:TheAdviceNotedoesn’trefer“FSC-PRO-60-006V2-0EN”althoughitconflictswithitwhenitimposesstricttimelinesforthecompletionofthetransferprocess.
Economic:addFSC-STD-60-002,FSC-STD-60-006;FSC-PRO-60-006Proposedenddate:January012019
We’lladdthesenormativereferencestothenextversionoftheAdviceNote
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Effectivedate 1/Economic ImportantthattheperiodthatthisAdviceappliedbemadeclear–startdateandexpirydateexplicitlystatedinthescope,asitisonlyintendedasatemporarymeasure
We’lldefineexpirydatetothenextversionoftheAdviceNote
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Economic:ItishardtounderstandwhytheAdvicenoteonlyapplytofourcountries/regions.Accordingtowww.intactforests.org,“IFLexistedin64countriesinyear2013Ingeneralitisbelievedthatthisissueistooimportanttobedealtinsuchashorttimeframe.CHareinterestedindealingwiththeissueinarationalandscientificbasedway.Thetypeofoperations(verylittleimpact)andthelegalbindingobligationofthecentralAfricancertificateholderstorespecttheirmanagementplanshouldentitlethemnottobeconcernedbytransitionmeasures.TheadviceshouldbeappliedtoallIFLsglobally,forconsistencyandtoaddressvulnerableareasoutsidethe
Economic:TheAdviceNoteshouldapplytoallIFLcountriesEnvironment:ThisAdviceNoteappliestoNetworkPartners,StandardDevelopmentGroups,certificateholdersandCertificationBodiesoperatingincountrieswhereIFLsarepresent.NationalOffice:SpecifyinthescopetheimplicationstoControlledWood
TheSteeringCommitteedecidedtoexpandtheSection1toapplyinallIFLcountries
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priorityregions.ItiscriticallyimportantthatIndonesiaisincludedaswellasthefullAmazonBasin.
Environment:ScopemustbeextendedtoincludeallcountrieswithIFLs.ThisisimportantbecausetheexistingscopemaynotapplytosomeIFLswhicharethemostrareand/orvulnerable.AlsotheapplicabledatesshouldbeincludedhereastheAdviceNoteismeanttobeatemporarymeasure.
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Economic:GeneralflexibilityinestablishingandmanagingIFLsisneededinCanada“Humaneconomicactivities”isanewterm.Terminologyanddefinitionsshouldbeconsistentwithpre-existingtermsintheIGIs,theFSCGlossaryofTermsandotherstandardsandpolicies.Theword“commercial”isusedintheIGIsandthusshouldalsobeusedinthedefinitionofIFLs.IFLDefinitionMostforestintheworld,includinginthetropicshavebeeninfluencedby
Economic:Option1:Incaseanationalorregionaldefinitionissettofitthelocalconditions,thisdefinitionwillapply.Option2:ThedefaultdefinitionforIFLis“Aterritory…sourceWRIetc.”appliesincasenoregionalornationaldefinitionapplies.…IntactForestLandscapesmapsaccessedthroughGlobalForestWatchasabaseline.“territorywithintoday'sglobalextentofforestcoverwhichcontainsforestandnon-forestecosystemsminimallyinfluencedbycommercialactivities…”
ThedefinitionforIFLgiveninFSC-STD-60-004forIGIsisintendedtobeastartingpointtotheSDGsfornationalorregionaldefinition.ThedefinitioncanbeelaboratedfurtherusingBestAvailableInformation.TheSDGisalsobetterpositionedtodefinewhatexactly‘minimallyinfluencedbyhumanactivity’means.
ThedefinitionforIndigenousCultural
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humanssignificantly,whichhavecreatedalsomanysecondary,disturbedforests.Theconceptof’Intactness’isveryarbitraryandhasbeenabandonedinecologysincelongtime,inthesamewayas‘Climaxforest’.Theseareconceptsthatappliedtoanidealisticview,withoutlookingatthelongerperspective.Also,itisknownthatintermediatedisturbancebringshigherbiodiversityasitcreatesmore‘niches’fordifferentspecies.IngeneralFSCshouldincludethefactthatIFLdefinitionwillberefinedatthenationalorregionalleveltofitlocalconditions.AndFSCshallallowtodefineattheregionalandnationallevelwhatexactly‘minimallyinfluencedbyhumanactivity’means.“CoreAreaofIFL”andICLaredefinedbutnotreferencedinanywayintheadvicenote.Definitionof“CoreareaofIFL”isnotconsistentwith“Coreareas”asdefinedindraftstandardFSC-STD-60-004V1-1.
DeletethedefinitionofICL.GettheconceptdiscussedandapprovedbyMembership,beforeitcanbeincludedintheFSCstandardasitentailsasignificantchangeoftheFSCFMstandard.Define‘’IFLdegradation’’Environment:SpecifywhichhumaneconomicactivitiesaltertheintactnessofIFLs.Replacetheprovideddefinitionby“CoreareaofIFL(FSC-STD-60-004V1-1):TheportionofanIntactForestLandscape*whereintactnessismaintained,thatcontainsthemostimportantecologicalandculturalvaluesandwheretimberharvestingandroadbuildingaregenerallynotpermitted.”ModificationstoBrazil:(i)CoreareaofIFLisatleast15%oftheIntactForestLandscapefallingwithinthemanagementunit,tobeincludedtotheConservationAreaNetwork.(ii)DeleteIndigenousCulturalLandscapefromthedefinitionasitwasnotapartofthemotion65
LandscapeisformulatedbythePermanentIndigenousPeoplesCommittee,whichhasamandateoftheFSCBoardofDirectors.FSCrespectstheIndigenousPeoplesself-determinationrightsandthedefinitionofICLbelongstothesphereofUnitedNationsDeclarationontheRightsofIndigenousPeoples(UNDRIP).Asnobodycommentedthephrasingofdefinition,we’llkeepitasitis.
WerespectthesupportgivenbyallBrazilianchamberstotheRIL-basedforestmanagementinAmazon.However,asthegenericconceptofRILisloose,itisimportanttospecifyexactlywhicharetheindicatorsforRILinAmazon,what‘’minimalhumaninfluence’’means
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InBrazil,CoreArea:stakeholdersandNetworkPartnershavesenttheircommentsagainstthedefinitionof80%oftheIFLareaascorearea.CoreareasmustbeacompositionoftheNetworkConservationAreawerethetotalwouldbemaximum15%Definitionof“CoreareaofIFL”isnotconsistentwith“Coreareas”asdefinedindraftstandardFSC-STD-60-004V1-1.ICLDefinition:ThisconceptiscompletelynewtotheFSCsystem.Therefore,incompliancewithFSCprocedures,iftobeincludedintheFSCFMstandard,itshouldbeapprovedbythemembership,differentchambers,theGA.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambervisiononRILandlimitingthecoreareaas15%.SuggestsdeletingICLconceptfromtheAdviceNoteasitwasnotmentionedintheMotionEnvironment:InBrazil,ReducedImpactLoggingpractisesareso
InBrazil:Modification:CoreareaofIFL:Atleast15%oftheintactforestlandscapefallingwithinthemanagementunit,composedbytheNetworkConservationAreaNationalOffice:Bestavailableinformation*,ofecologicaland/orsocialsources,relevanttoIFLsandICLs,shouldbeacceptable.Asexample,GlobalForestWatchCanada(exampleforCanada),localeco-forestmapsusedforforestmanagementplanning,andreferencesspecifictoICLsandIndigenousculturalvaluescouldbeincluded.*BestAvailableInformation:Data,facts,documents,expertopinions,andresultsoffieldsurveysorconsultationswithstakeholders*andengagementwithIndigenousPeoplesthataremostcredible,accurate,complete,and/orpertinentandthatcanbeobtainedthroughreasonable*effortandcost,subjecttothescale*andintensity*ofthemanagementactivities*andthePrecautionaryApproach*.ThedefinitionofcoreshouldbedevelopedthrougharigorousprocessandincollaborationwithregionalNetworkpartnerstoberepresentativeofregionalrealities.
andhowtherelatedlegislationisformulated.
We’lltakeoutthedefinitionforaCoreareafromthenextversionoftheAdviceNote,becauseitwillnotbereferredinthetextanymore
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delicatethattheyenablemaintainingtheintactnesswithinforestconcessions.ThesemanagementsunitscontinuetobeclassifiedasIFLattheinternationalevaluation.ThereforethereisnoneedofstoptheReducedImpactLoggingoperationsinBrazilNationalOffices:GlobalForestWatchismentionedastheonlydatasource.ThisdataisusefultogetaquickandfirstideaofwhereIntactForestsarelocatedbutnotpreciseenoughandupdatedenoughtomakesuchimportantdecisionon.TheIndigenousChamberhasidentifiedconcernsabouttheidentificationandmappingofIFLs,sinceaprocessofidentificationandmappinginfluencesnationalandprovincialpolicies.Whodecideonthedefinitionofcores?ItwasnotdefinedwhenvotingforintheMotion.FSCCanadahascompletedascience-basedexercisetoproposeadefinitionandtodevelopa
Socialandculturalconsiderationsneedtobeincludedwhendefiningcores.AstheIFLconceptispartofFSC-STD-60-004V-1-1shallbeincludedanexplanationnotesayingwhat“minimuminfluenced”meanstoallowtheapplicationandcontrolofdegradationlevelsinBrazil.ICLconceptshallbebetterunderstoodinordertobeapplicableandnotcontradictorywithIFLconceptinBrazil.Ifapprovedthroughstandarddevelopmentprocessneeded,FSCshallclarifytheindicatorsthatshouldapply.
Modification1:IndigenousCulturalLandscape(givenforinformation):[…]
Modification2:CoreareaofIFL:TheportionofanIntactForestLandscape*whereintactnessismaintained,thatcontainsthemostimportantecologicalandculturalvaluesandwheretimberharvestingandroadbuildingaregenerallynotpermitted
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clearmethodologytoidentifycoreareas.Moreworkisplannedtodevelopmethodologytoidentifysocialandculturalvalues(ICL).Adefinitionofcores,ifimposedinternationally,couldhavesignificantimpactontheproposedapproachdevelopedbyFSCCanadaandpotentialnegativesorunintendedconsequencestoonthegroundpractices.
IFLconcept:TheconceptofIFLitselfisnoteasytoapplyandneedfurtherdetailingtoallowimplementationofprotectionmeasuresinBrazil…andICLconcept:what´sthesource?What´sthelevelofdiscussionthisconceptwassubmittedtopriortoturnanofficialFSCdefinition?Research:TheICLconceptistotallynewandisnotpartofmotion65,thereforeshouldnotbeintegratedwithinFSCnormativeframeworkwithoutaclearlyapprovalatGeneralAssembly.Moreover,theICLconceptisnotusedintheadvice.Itisdefinedin"Terms&
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Definitions",butwithoutreferenceacrosstheadvice.
Background 5/Economic1/NationalOffice
Economic:Theintentofthisadvicenoteisn’tclear.Itshouldbeexplainedhere.Itseemstohavetwopurposes:1).SetexpectationsforCHandCBsinterimtoIFLindicatorsbeingdrafted(tobeclarified)2).SettimelinesforSDGsforthedevelopmentoftheIFLindicators.Itissurprisingtomentionthat“TheFSCBoardofDirectors(BM72.31,July2016)hasconcludedthattheMotion65defaultclausecannotbeimplementedaswritteninthemotion,duetothesignificantundesiredsideeffectsinsomeofthemostimportantcountriesforFSC”whilenotaddressingthischallengeintheAdviceNote.The“Motion65defaultclause”wouldhaveprecludedharvestinginthe“coreareaofeachIFLwithinthemanagementunit”bytheendof2016.ThisAdviceNotewillprecludeharvestingthatdegradeIFLstotheextentthatitlosesitsIFLstatusby3monthsafterJanuary2017.Itisnot
Economic:Addanexplanationoftheendgoalofthenotice.Thiscouldbe:ThepurposeofthisnoticeistoprovidedirectivestocertificateholdersandcertificationbodieswiththeaimofensuringminimalfurtherdestructionofIFLsinterimtothedevelopmentofclearindicatorsonIFLsandICLs,andtodiscloseafinaldeadlineforthefinalizationandimplementationofIFL/ICLrequirements.ThewholeAdviceNoteshouldbewithdrawnandrewritetocomeupwithaproposalthatdoesaddressthe“significantundesiredsideeffects”discussedbytheFSCBoard.ForcountrieswellengagedinthestandardrevisionprocessoftheirFMstandard,thisadvicemustnotapply.TheonlyviablesolutionforIFLandICLinCanada,relyinabalancedmulti-chambercountryadaptedprocessaddressingIFL/ICLforthecountryasawholeandnotattheFMUlevel.IftheAdviceNoteisintendedtobeasafeguardforIFLs,thenitshouldapplytoallcountries,andinparticular,inthosecountrieswherethereisveryfewIFLsremaining.
We’llclarifytheintentoftheAdviceNoteinitsnextversion
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clearhowthischangeofvernacularcombinedwitha3monthsextensiondoesanythingtoaddressthe“significantundesiredsideeffects”thatarementionedintheBackground.WesupporttheconclusionreachedbytheBoardofFSCInternationalatBM72“thattheMotion65defaultclausecannotbeimplementedaswritteninthemotion”.NationalOffice:ThisAdviceNotehasnotadequatelytakenintoaccountagreementsreachedduringtheIFLSolutionsForuminJuly2016.Itdoesn’tconsideranyoftheimportantobjectionsanddifficultiesexpressed.
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Economic:Clearlyseparatethenoticein2sectionswouldprovidemoreclaritytothenotice.Advice#1shouldbere-writtentodirectactionbyCHs,notCBs.TheAdviceNoteitselfissuedbyFSCshould
Economic:Advicedirectedtocertificateholdersandtheircertificationbody.Forexample,“Within3monthsoftheeffectivedateofthisAdviceNote,CertificateHoldersmust….”Add:“Transitionmeasuresbeforetheapplicationofnationalindicatorsorbydefault
We’llseparatetheNoticetotwosections.FirstonetargetedtoallCHsandthesecondonetotheSDGsinprioritycountriesWe’llclarifywhathappensincaseofnon-compliance.
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serveasnoticeThisadvicenotedoesnotaddressthe“significantundesiredsideeffects”mentionedbytheFSCInternationalBOD.Infact,thelackofflexibilityofthisAdviceNotewouldmakethingsmoreproblematicandwouldgenerateevenmoredetrimentalsideeffects.Validfortheentirepoint1.:Itshouldbeclarifiedthatthemeasuresdescribedinpoint1aretransitionmeasuresbeforenationalindicatorsortheIGIareinforce.Ingeneral,itwouldbeimportanttoclarifywhathappensincaseofnon-compliance.FSCcertifiedforestmanagementbasedonRILkeepstheforestsintactasdefinedbyIFLinBrazilTheabsenceofflexibilityinthewording,lackofrecognitionoflimitationstothecertificateholders’‘sphereofinfluence’andmis-alignmentIGI6.5andwiththeICLapproach,maketheAdvicecontentunacceptabletous
ofIGIs”asthetitleofthissection.Addaparagraphontheoutcomeincaseofnon-compliance.ExplainhowthetransitionwilltakeplacefromtherequirementsofthisAdviceNotetotheIndicatorsofarevisedandapprovedNFSS.Environment:“Operations(includingharvestingandroadbuilding)thatdonotimpactmorethan20%ofIntactForestLandscapesmayproceediftheydonotreduceanyIFLsbelowthe50,000hathreshold.GlobalForestWatchIFLmapsmustbeusedinallregions.”IfthislanguageisNOTused,werecommendthechangesoutlinedbelow.
We’llintroducetheproposaltoallowthecommercialuseof20%ofIFLswithinthemanagementunit
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Environment:WestronglyencourageFSCtocreateaverysimpleadvicenotethatisstraightforwardandeasytoimplement.ThefoundationforthiswouldbeacaponoperationsinIFLstocreateaholdingpattern,andlimitoperationsinIFLswithoutpreventingthemaltogether.Webelievethatthisapproachwillgivethemajorityofoperatorstocontinuewithplannedoperationswhileindicatorsarebeingdevelopedandimplemented.Ifthisapproachisused,werecommendthattheclausesbelowcanbeeliminated.Research:TheadvicedoesnotclarifyiftherequirementsdescribedbeforeOption1wouldbeincorporatedinFSC-STD-01-001orinotherstandard,oriftherequirementsaregoingtobeincorporatedintheindicatorsonlythroughOption1and2,describedinthisdocument.
1.ByJanuary2017, 10/Economic Economic: Economic: We’lldescribewhatis
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CertificationBodiesshallsendanoticetotheCertificateHoldersrequiringthemtomaintainand/orenhancetheintactnessofIFLareaswithintheManagementUnit,withminimalfurtherdestructionofIFLs.Thenoticeshallrequirethat:
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ThisisunacceptabletosomecompaniesSpecifyiftherequirementsunderpoint1willstillbevalidoncearevisedNFSSisapprovedandgetseffectiveForCHtobeabletosendthisnotice,theinterimIFLmapstobeusedshouldbeclearlyidentifiedhere.Canamapbeincludeddirectlyinthisnoticesothereisnoroomforuseofdifferentsources?AccordingtheevaluationdoneinBrazil,theforestmanagementimplementedincertifiedareasiscapabletokeepforestlandscapesmanagedwithverysimilarcharacteristicstotheuntouched.Then,wecanassumethattheproceduresdefinedinBrazilianlegislationcouldbeadoptedasapossiblewaytomaintaintheIFLwiththeirvalues(RIL,ReducedImpactLogging)Environment:InBrazil,Reduced
ExplainhowthetransitionwilltakeplacefromtherequirementsofthisAdviceNotetotheIndicatorsofarevisedandapprovedNFSS.Define‘destruction’orusetheterm‘degradation’or‘alteration’,wherethereisnolandusechangeDefine‘minimal’EnvironmentSpecifywhichhumanactivitiesdonotmaintainandwhichhumanactivitiesdonotenhancetheintactnessofIFLs.NationalOffice:Thefirststepshouldbethedevelopmentofanapproach.1.ByJanuary2017,CertificationBodiesshallsendanoticetotheCertificateHoldersrequiringthemtomaintainand/orenhancetheintactnessofIFLareaswithintheManagementUnit,withminimalfurtherdestructionofIFLs.Thenoticeshallrequirethat:Research:1.ByJanuary2017,CertificationBodiesshall
allowed,insteadofwhatisprohibitedinthenextversionoftheAdviceNote
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ImpactLoggingpractiseshastobeacceptedSocial:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambervisiononRILinBrazilNationalOffice:Ifwearerequiringtomaintainand/orenhanceintactnessofIFL,anapproachneedstobedevelopbefore.
ThereisanissuetoenhancetheintactnessofIFLareas,sincesylviculturalpracticeswillimpactintactnessofthelandscape.
sendanoticetotheCertificateHoldersrequiringthattheirforestmanagementactivitiesarealignedwiththeconceptsofReducedImpactLogging,maintainingtheintactnessofIFLareaswithintheManagementUnit,withminimalfurtherdestructionofIFLsinanextentthatdoesnotcompromisetheforestmanagementactivities.
1.1.Nolaterthan3monthsafterreceivingthenotice,CertificateholdersshallnotifytheirCBsaboutanyplannedlogginginIFLsoverthenexttwoyears.
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Economic:NotpossibleinQuebeck,whereGovernmentmakestheplanning.ItisclearthattheendresultofthisadvicenoteisthateithernewstandardsarecreatedusingIGIsorexistingstandardsaremodifiedtoincludeIGIsastheyrelatetoIFLs,andthatCHswouldberequiredtoconformtothosestandards.Butwhatisexpectedtohappenintheinterim?
Economic:ThetimeneedstobeextendedtoJanuary2018ManagementplansshouldfollowtheRILprinciplesinBrazil,andanysubsequentchangesshouldstrictlyfollowsuchconceptsinordertokeeptheforestlandscapeprotectedwithminimumchanges.…CBsshallrequirecertificateholderstocomplywiththeIFLsafeguards.Failureto
Thisrequirementappearstobetechnicallyimpossibletobeimplementedinsomecases.Therefore,we’llremovethisfromthenextversionoftheAdviceNote
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#1doesnotprovideclarityonthis.Questionstobeanswered:WhatisexpectedofCHoncethey’vedisclosedtheirplannedlogginginIFLsoverthenexttwoyears?Also:WhatisexpectedofCBs?IfCBsdon’thearfromtheminthreemonths,theygetanNCR?IsitexpectedthatCBsconductanevaluationofwhetherornottheirplannedactivitiesareinconformance?Ifso,basedonwhatbasis?Therequirementsunder#1arenotdetailedenoughtomakethisassessment.Inaddition,giventhetimelines(e.g.mapsdevelopedby12/31/17),theCHnoticedoesnotseemapplicablewithoutmoreclarityon“whatIFLs”aretobeconsideredbyCHandCBsintheinterim.Finally:Whytwoyears?ThetwooptionsproposedforSDGrequirenewindicatorstobeappliedwithin1year(Jan2018).Whateverisrequiredin1.2shouldbeconsistentwith1.1.
complywillresultinMajorNonConformanceEnvironment:Nolaterthan3monthsafterreceivingthenotice,CertificateholdersshallnotifytheirCBsaboutanyplannedlogginginIFLsoverthenexttwoyears,usingthe“IntactForestLandscapes.2000/2013”mapsaccessedthroughGlobalForestWatch(www.globalforestwatch.org)asabaselineAdd:CBsshallrequirecertificateholderstocomplywiththefollowingsafeguards.FailuretocomplywillresultinMajorNonConformanceReports.(Note:Thecurrentdraftdoesn’toutlineanymechanismforenforcement)Clarifytheconditionsunderwhichinitiallyplannedloggingwillbeundertaken;Inthecaseofmodificationsofplannedloggingoperations,providesolutiontointegratemodificationsofmanagementplansinthelegalframeworkInBrazil,ManagementplansshouldfollowtheRILprinciples,andanysubsequentchangesshouldstrictlyfollowsuchconceptsinordertokeeptheforestlandscapeprotectedandlittlechanged.
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ThisrequirementisnotapplicableinallProvincialcontextinCanadaasCHdon’talwayshavetwoyearsofforestmanagementplanexistingateverypointintime.Insomeinstances,harvestingblocksareattributedthroughauctionsales–whichsectorscannotbeknowninadvance.Environment:Mapsusedmustbegloballyconsistent.EnforcementmeasuresneedtobemadeexplicitSocial:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambervisiononRILinBrazilNationalOffice:Thenwhat?NotclearwhattheCBshoulddoafterthatandwhenandwhattheyhavetoenforce.DuringthelastIFLsolutionsforum,ithasbeendiscussedandalmostagreedthatoperationscouldbepursuedin20%oftheIFLs.Thedegradationof20%oftheIFLswithintheManagementUnithasbeenacceptedbyGreenpeaceandUMD.As
NationalOffice:Pleaseclarify.
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suggestedpreviously,wecoulddraftanoteprecisingclearlywhatisintendedhere.Research:HowcanFSCexpectthatCHsareawareoftheexistenceofIFLSwithinitsFMUs?Thepublicationofmapsisexpectedtotheendof2017andtheimplementationofIFL'sindicatorsisexpectedtoJanuary2017.
1.1.1Amendmentstoforestmanagementplans,whichincreaselogginginIFLsshallnotbepermitted.
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Economic:NotpossibleinQuebeck,whereGovernmentmakestheplanning.Forhowlong?TheremaybeconflictwithprovincialdirectioninCanadaDoesthismeanincreaseloggingabovethatwhichwasoriginallyplanned?Giventhattheseseemtobemeasuresforthetransition,whyisthereaneedtospecifythis?FortheCB,thetimeframetomakeamendmentstoMParemuchhigherthanthis.Thislanguageisunacceptablefor
Economic:‘’Amendmentstoforestmanagementplans,whichincreaseloggingandroadbuildinginIFLsshallnotbepermittedwhilethisadvicenoteisineffect.’’Foresthealthloggingsincriticalhazardsituationsshouldbeaccepted(fires,pestanddiseaseoutbreaks)InBrazil,ReducedImpactLoggingtechniques(RIL)shouldbeusedandpresentedtothecertifierasameansofguaranteeingIFLmaintenance.Anadditionalprecautionaryapproachmaybesuggestedbycertifiersinrelationtohigh-impactactivitieswithinareaspreviouslyidentifiedasIFLs,suchasroadleasesandinfrastructures,whilemaintaininglowimpactexplorationactivities.
Thisrequirementappearstobetechnicallyimpossibletobeimplementedinsomecases.Therefore,we’llremovethisfromthenextversionoftheAdviceNote
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reasonsnotedabove.IFLsareofdifferentsizes,locationsandcontexts.Suchaninflexibleapproachisunacceptable.HowcansucharequirementbeguaranteediftherearequestioningsabouttheconceptofIFL,andhowtheOrganization,whichhasevenlessknowledge,canguaranteesucharequirement?ConsideringthatCertifiedManagementareasdon’tdamagetheIFLforestcover,newcertifiedprojectsorExpansionsofcertifiedprojectsunderwayhastobeallowedinBrazilSocial:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambervisiononRILinBrazilEnvironment:TheseadditionalsafeguardsarerequiredtoensurethatIFLsareintentionallyhigh-graded.
Environment:Add:1.1.2LoggingshallnotbeconductedinIFLsunlessevidenceispresentedwhichprovesthatoperationsoutsidetheIFLarenotsufficienttomeetshort-termwoodsupplyneedsofcertificateholders.1.1.3NoconstructionofloggingroadsortracksinIFLswillbepermittedduringtheperiodthisAdviceNoteapplies.InBrazil,ReducedImpactLoggingtechniques(RIL)shouldbeaccepted
1.1.2Nooperations(includingloggingandroadbuilding)shalloccurwhichdegradeanIFLto
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Economic:NotpossibleinQuebeck,whereGovernmentmakestheplanning.
Economic:Nooperations(includingloggingandroadbuilding)shalloccurwhichdegradeanIFLtotheextentthatitlosesitsIFLstatus.
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theextentthatitlosesitsIFLstatus.
Thisgoesbeyondthe‘sphereofinfluence”,forCHorpartnerforestmanagers,whicharenotthelandowner.Gov’thasdecisionauthorityonlanduseplanning.Motion65:IndicatorswillbedefinedatthenationallevelfortheprotectionofIFL.ThereforetheywillbyoppositiondefinewhatdegradesanIFL.Clarifywhatismeantby“degradeIFLtotheextentthatitlosesitsIFLstatus»duringthetransitionperiod.Duringthetransitiontime,itwasunderstoodthatloggingcantakeplace(whichincludesroadbuilding)duringthesecondmeetingoftheIFLSolutionForum.InBrazil,ForestManagementareas,certifiedbyFSC,hastobeoutoftheIFLrestrictionsbecauseitwasprovedbytheIFLmaps,generatedaboveforestcover(seePWAattachedmaps),thatareasclassifiedasIFLactuallyhavebeenusedforForestManagement,(producingwood)formorethan20years.AtthemapispossibletoconfirmthattheCertified
ComplianceshallbeverifiedbytheCBpriortoanyloggingactivitybeingconductedinIFLs.Additionalcomment:toavoidincreasedcoststoCH,thisevaluationshouldbeaddedtothescopeoftheregularsurveillanceaudittobeplannedin2017and2018(interimtothenew/revisedIFLindicators).Proposal:IncasetheManagementUnitownsorispartofthePFI,generaldataregardingsuchareasandtheirprotectionmeasuresmustbepubliclyavailable.DefineIFLdegradationRILbasedoperationshastobeacceptedinBrazilEnvironment:1.1.4Nooperations(includingloggingandroadbuilding)shalloccurwhichdegradeanIFLtotheextentthatitlosesitsIFLstatuswithintheFMUorthebroaderlandscape.Add:1.1.5AnnualsurveillanceauditsduringthisperiodwillincludeanassessmentofPrinciple3.1.1.6LoggingthatoccursinIFLswillminimizeimpactsonbiodiversityandforestecology,
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FMprotecttheforestSocial:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambervisiononRILinBrazilNationalOffices:Ifoperationswerealreadyplannedinthisarea,thismayrequiremodificationofamanagementplan.ForestManagementplanningisalongandcomplexprocessinCanadawhichrequirealotofsteps,therespectofalonglistofrequirementandintensiveconsultationswhichmayincludespecificagreementswithstakeholders.Theprocessonlyforanannualplanmaytakeoneyearandanymodificationmayrequiregoingbackintheconsultationprocessandchangingagreements.Thiscannotbealwaysdoneinasoshortperiodoftime.HowanIFLlosesitsstatus?What´sthemetric?IfremainsintheIFLconcept“..minimallyinfluencedbyhumaneconomicactivity,”itshallbeclarifiedwhatmeansminimallyinfluenced.Environment:Wecouldhavethe
andannualsurveillanceauditswillduringthisperiodwillincludeanassessmentofPrinciple9.3.1.1.7VolumefromavoidedIFLareaswillberemovedfromsustainableharvestrates,andannualsurveillanceauditswillbeconductedonPrinciple5.1and5.2.GeneraldataregardingIFLareasandtheirprotectionmeasuresmustbepubliclyavailable.SpecifywhichoperationsdegradeIFLtotheextentthattheylosetheirIFLstatus,andunderwhichconditionsloggingdegradesIFLtothisextent.NationalOfficeInsertwhatexactlywhatcouldnotbedoneto“losesitsIFLstatus”Research:1.1.2ReduceImpactLoggingtechniques(RIL)shouldbeusedandpresentedtothecertificationbodytoensurePFImaintenance.Certificationbodiesmaysuggesttheimplementationofadditionalprecautionaryapproachinhigh-impactactivitieswithinareaspreviouslyidentifiedasIFLs,suchasroadsandinfrastructures,whilemaintaininglowimpact
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situationwherethewholeIFLdoesn’tloseitsstatusbuttheIFLwithinanFMUdoesifwedon’tmakethisspecification.AdditionalsafeguardsareneededtoensurethatmonitoringtakesplaceduringthisperiodandthatCHsdon’tintentionallyincreaseharvestofIFLsforthepurposeofhavingfewerrestrictionsoncetheMotionisimplemented.I’tsnecessaryclarifythemapsandinformationrequested.InBrazilthisinformationisnotpubliclydisclosed(georeferenced)duetotherisksofinvasion,theftofwood,orotherinappropriateuseofsuchinformation.Inaddition,thescaleofidentificationofIFLatthegloballevelwilloftenbeinconsistentwiththescaleofidentificationoftheseareasattheleveloftheforestmanagementunit
explorationactivities.
1.2.Certificateholdersshallmakepubliclyavailablethemapsoftheirmanagementunits,
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Economic:Asstatedabove,arequirementthatanevaluationbeconductedbytheCBshouldbeincludedinthenotice,includingarequirementforCBsto
Economic:‘’1.2.Certificateholdersshallmakepubliclyavailablethemapsoftheirmanagementunits,ofIFLswithinthesemanagementunits,andof
Thisrequirementappearstobetechnicallyimpossibletobeimplementedinsomecases.Therefore,we’llremovethisfromthenext
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ofIFLswithinthesemanagementunits,andofanyplannedlogginginIFLs.
postpubliclythereportofthatassessment,confirmingtheseplansareinconformance.Thisrequirementisnotconstructive.Itsstrictapplicationwouldonly“paintatargetontheback”ofeverycertificateholdersplanningtologinIFLsUntilIFLmappingmethodologyandconsultationonFSCCanadaIFL/ICLindicatorsarefinalized,wecannotconfirm‘IFL’ItcannotbethatFSCFMcertificateholdershavenoobligationtomakemapsavailable,andnowthosewhoareinIFLhavetomakemapspublicallyavailable.Whatkindofmaps?InBrazilmanyofthisinformationisnotpubliclydisclosed(georeferenced)duetotherisksofinvasion,theftofwood,ortheinappropriateuseofsuchinformation.Inaddition,thescaleofidentificationofIFLSatthegloballevelwilloftenbeinconsistentwiththescaleofidentificationoftheseareasatthe
anyplannedlogginginIFLs.CBsshallpostpublicsummariesoftheevaluationconductedtoconfirmthestatusoftheaffectedIFLs’’Delete1.2andinsteadrelyonpublicparticipationandstakeholderinvolvementrequiredbytheforestmanagementstandard.CHshallmakepublicallyavailablethemaps….(i.e.thiscanbetotheirCertificationBodyandtoFSCforexample)Environment:1.2.Certificateholdersshallmakepubliclyavailablethemapsoftheirmanagementunits,ofIFLswithinthesemanagementunits,ofannualharvestblocks,andofanyplannedlogginginIFLs,usingthe“IntactForestLandscapes.2000/2013”mapsaccessedthroughGlobalForestWatch(www.globalforestwatch.org)asabaseline.Add:1.3.3Incountriesthatarescoredbelow50inTransparencyInternational’scorruptionindex,therequirementsin1.1and1.2shallbeverifiedbyASI.NationalOffice:Clarifywhenthishastobecompleted.Isitthesameactionaspoint1.4ofoption1below?Isitforendof2017?
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leveloftheforestmanagementunitEnvironment:Consistencyinmapsisnecessary.Concernthatinsomeregions,IFLswillcontinuetobesubjecttostatusquopracticesdespiterequirements.NationalOffice:Inordertomakemapsavailable,theIFLidentificationmethodologyshouldbecompletedandcertificateholderwillneedtoanalysetheirtenureanddefineIFLproperly.ItcannotbedonewiththehighlevelsatellitemapsfromGFWastheinformationisnotpreciseenoughandwilllandonexpectationsonareasthatareperhapsnotanIFL.IdentificationandmappingofIFLsrequiressocialandculturalconsiderations,especiallyasitrelatestoIndigenousrightsandinterests.Thisneedstobeincludedwithmoreresourcesdedicatedtounderstandwaysthatthiscanbecompleted.InsomepartsofCanada,itisthegovernmentwhichisresponsibletoplanmanagementactivitiesonpubliclands(90%ofterritory).Certificateholdersdonothavealotofinfluence
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ondecision,including,timing(intermofspeedinguptheprocess)Notclearwhenthishastobecompleted.Isitthesameactionaspoint1.4ofoption1below?Isitforendof2017?
ThisrequirementneedstobecheckedbyLegalUnitIguess,sinceIdon’tknowtowhichextentFSCismandatedtoaskCHstomakeeconomicintelligencepublic.Therearealsoissueswhereconcessionsareprivatelyowned(US…)YoumayhaveseenmapsdraftedbyourOffice(thankstoWWF-USfunds)foreachcountry,withtheseinformation(exceptroadsplanningforthenextyears)areavailableandwehavesignedaDataSecrecywitheachCertificateHolderallowingustousethemapsandpublishthem.Research:ThepublicationofmapsiscomplicatedinBrazil,becauseitcanbringsIFLstotheattentionofill-intentionedperson,puttingtheseareasinrisk(invasions,theftofwood,orinappropriateuseof
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suchinformation).2.StandardDevelopmentGroups(SDGs)inBrazil,Canada,CongoBasinandRussiashallusethedefaultgenericIFLindicators(aspresentedinFSC-STD-60-004V1-1)forthedevelopmentofnationalindicatorsfortheprotectionofIFLs.
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Economic:Thisisunclear.Whatthelinksand/orimplicationsarebetweentherequirementsof#1and#2andthisshouldbeclarified.Forexample,ascommentedabove,itisconfusingtoaskCHtodiscloseanyplanninginIFLs(1.1ofsection1)whilethemappingofIFLsisnotyetfinalized(1.4ofsection2).Timelines(2vs1year)arealsoconfusingTheIGI’scanaccordingtoFSCprocedures(forIFLorotherindicators),beadaptedtotheNationalorRegionalsituation.Isthisvalidforthetransitionmeasures?TheadviceshouldbeappliedtoallIFLsglobally,forconsistencyandtoaddressvulnerableareasoutsidethepriorityregions.Environment:Scopeneedstobebroadened.NationalOffices:FSCCanadahasworkedhardoverthe
Economic:Replace“use”by“adaptoradopt”andadd“aspertheoptionshighlightedbelow”attheendStandardDevelopmentGroups(SDGs)incountrieswhereIFLsarepresentshallusethe…AdoptFSCCanada’sIFL/ICLindicatorsifGov’tsupports.TimelinesshouldallowsufficienttimeforFSCCanadatocompletedrafting,fieldtestingandfinalisationofIFL/ICLindicators.Environment:2.StandardDevelopmentGroups(SDGs)incountrieswhereIFLsarepresentshallusethedefaultgenericIFLindicators(aspresentedinFSC-STD-60-004V1-1)forthedevelopmentofnationalindicatorsfortheprotectionofIFLs.NationalOffices:FSCneedstocoordinateaprocesswithNetworkPartnerstoexplorecompatibilityofproposedapproacheswiththework(IGIs)comingfromtheHCVWG.TherewillbebacklashifatopdownapproachoftheIGIsisimposedonNPsFocusneedstobeoncomingtoanagreementonworkplanandtimelinesforcountrieswith
Thisrequirementseemstoraiselotsofconfusion.ThenextversionofIGIsisintendedtohelptheSDGssimilarlyasthecurrentversion,sothattheSDGswillhavethepossibilitytoadopt,adapt,ordroptheIGIs.AstheuseofIGIsisdescribedinfulldetailsintheTransferProcedure,itisnotnecessarytorepeatitintheAdviceNote.We’llremovethisclausefromthenextversion.
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last2yearstodevelopindicatorsthatmakesenseinourcontext.TheIFLIGIindicatorsarenotenoughtoallowproperindicatordevelopmentforBrazil.TheSDGsneedtohavetheresultofIFLTechnicalWGtoclarifytermsanddefinitionsatleasttoensureminimumconsistencybetweenglobalnationalstandards.
significantIFLs.ThatwillleadtothelongtermsuccessforsafeguardingIFLandICL
StandardDevelopmentGroups(SDGs)inBrazil,Canada,CongoBasinandRussiashallusethedefaultgenericIFLindicators(aspresentedinFSC-STD-60-004V1-1)forthedevelopmentofnationalindicatorsfortheprotectionofIFLsoncefinalizedtheworkofIFLTechnicalWorkingGroúpandtheresultsincludedonFSC-STD-60-004.
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StandardDevelopmentGroups(SDGs)inBrazil,Canada,CongoBasinandRussiashallusethedefaultgenericIFLindicators(aspresentedinFSC-STD-60-004V1-1)forthedevelopmentofnationalindicatorsfortheprotectionofIFLs.TheresultsofIFLTechnicalWorkingGroupwillgenerateaGuidanceonhowtodevelopnationalindicatorsandwillbepublishedtillMarch2017.
Option 1: Adapting theInternational GenericIndicators
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Economic:IFLindicatorscouldnotbedefinedandimplementedbeforeICLisdefinedthroughproperengagementwithFN.Anyrushingofthisprocesscouldonlyleadtofailureandtheadditionalpotentialadverseeffectoflosingthe
Economic:Thereshouldbenoshort-cutoftheNFSStransferprocessforthesolepurposeofimplementingIFLindicators.
We’lltrytorelaxthetimelinestoenablemeaningfulengagementwithIPAdaptingordroppingtheIGIsisallowedaccordingto
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supportofFN,acriticalpartnerinthedevelopmentoftheFSCstandardsinCanada.It’snotclearthat“adapting”theIGIIndicatorsisallowed(“shallusethedefaultIGIIndicators”)eventhoughitisclearlyintendedtobeallowedunderoption1,whichisthedefaultoption.
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1.1 By 31 January 2017,SDGs shall provideupdated work plans withdefined and timetableddeliverables for theprocessofdeveloping IFLindicators,including:
a) Description howthe IFL indicatordevelopmentprocess will beaccelerated.
b) PlansforengagingIndigenousPeoples(throughFPIC).
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Economic:1.1b)Engagementwithindigenouspeoples?DoestheSDGneedtodoFPICprocesses?Ifforeachoftheabovequestionstheanswerisyes,ourpositioningiscontraryinBrazil,sincetheconceptofIntactIndigenousLandscapesisnotpartofmotion65,justasthereisnoclearlydefinedconcept,muchlessvalidatedbyFSCmembers.AnotherimportantpointisthatSDGsdonothavecapacity(sinceallitsmembersarevoluntary)anotherpointofimportanceisthatthistypeofcostisimpracticable.Wesupportthisoption,butthereshouldbemoretimeforthisEnvironment:PIPCindicatedthatitwouldbefinalizingworkplansbythe
Economic:Furtherexplainhowthese“PlansforengagingIndigenousPeoples(throughFPIC)”alignwithoraddtoFSC-PRO-60-006.ProposalforBrazil:1.1.bAplanforengagingaffectedpartiesshouldbepartoftheSDG'sdevelopmentprocessofindicators(meetings,workshops,etc.)Itisaddedtothisjustificationthatthecurrent(andunderreview)Standardsalreadydefinetheprocessesofrelationshipswithtraditionalcommunitiesandimpactedindigenouspeoples.Environment:b)PlansforengagingIndigenousPeoples(throughFPIC).Whererelevant,updatedworkplanswithdefinedandtimetableddeliverablesfortheincorporationofIndigenousCulturalLandscapes(ICLs)willalsobefinalizedby31January2017.
EngagingtheIndigenousPeoplesisnecessaryforaddressingthepoints3and8ofM65.TheAdvicetoSDGswillbedroppedout.We’llproviderecommendationforthistopicintheNewsItem
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endof2016atthelastIFLSolutionsForum.ImportanttointegrateICLsintothis.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambervisionsinBrazilNationalOffice:Wewelcomeadiscussionaroundourworkplanandtimeline.FPICisaconcepttobeusedwhenyouaredelegatingrightsoverresourcesand/orlands.InthecasedevelopmentofindicatorsFPICdonotapplyforBrazil.Certificationisvoluntary.IfanOrganizationwouldliketomanageaIndigenousPeoplesLandthanFPICwouldapply.Research:This deadline is unfeasible, becauseSDGwouldhave less thanamonthtodevelop the work plan, taking intoaccountthattheeffectivedateof thisadviceisJanuary2017.Onemonthisashort deadline when we are talkingabout a teamwork, which demands
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1.1. b) Plans for engaging IndigenousPeoples (through FPIC through culturallyappropriateengagement).
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engagement with indigenous people.Moreover, January is a month whenthemostpersonareonvacation. Thedeadlinesmustbemorerealistic.Inaddition,itembmustbeexcludedbecausetheconceptofICLisnotpartofmotion65andtheIGIsalreadydemandengagementwithtraditionalcommunitiesandimpactedindigenouspeoples.
1.2 SDGs shall completethe transfer of nationalforest stewardshipstandard (NFSS) to P&CV5,oramendtheexistingNFSS with IFL indicatorsand submit the NFFS toPSU before 31 July 2017forapproval.
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Economic:TheideaofacceleratingthetransferofNFSSinthecontextofspecificindicatorcouldcreateacomplexandproblematicsituation.ItisnotlikelythatbyadoptingsuchanAdviceNotewillsuddenlyacceleratetheSDGsworktotransfertheNFSS.ItisasunlikelythatSDGswillbecomfortableadoptinganNFSSthatmightaddressIFLsbutnotyetthefullsuiteofotherIndicators(includingICLs).Assuch,countriescouldend-upapplyingOption2whileatthesametimecontinuingtheworkontheirtransferofNFSStoP&CV5.ThiswouldcreateanumberofdifferentNFSStobeapplyinashorttimeperiodwhichwouldbeconfusingandprostrating.
Economic:Thereshouldbenoshort-cutoftheNFSStransferprocessforthesolepurposeofimplementingIFLindicators.Timelineuntilend2017…oraccordingtoagreedworkplantimetableProposalforBrazil:changethedateJuly31,2017to"sixmonthsafterpublicationoftheindicatorsandsupplementarymaterialscomingfromtheInternationalWorkingGrouphavebeenapproved."Environment:1.2SDGsshallcompletethetransferofnationalforeststewardshipstandard(NFSS)toP&CV5,oramendtheexistingNFSSwithIFLindicators(andICLindicatorswhererelevant)andsubmitthe
TheAdvicetoSDGswillbedroppedout.We’llproviderecommendationforthistopicintheNewsItemWeareplanningtohandleRIL/AmazoninthenextversionofHCVGuideline,HCV2
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Itisproposedthatthetime-lineisuntilend2017.SeenthecomplexityoftheIFLconcept,thetimelineistooshort.ThisdeadlineshouldbeextendedtoaftertheGeneralAssemblyforBrazilsincethismatterwillbeontheagenda.TheInternationalWorkingGrouphasnotyetbeenabletobringpartiallyacceptedmaterialfortropicalforestmanagementissues.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambercommentsinBrazilEnvironment:Seecommentabove.InBrazil,thisdeadlinecan’tbeachieved.ItshouldbeextendedovertheGeneralAssemblysincethismatterwillbeontheagenda.Sofar,theindicatorssuggestedbyHCVTWGarenotpracticalforthetimberproducersintropicalcountries.NationalOffice:TheproposedapproachdevelopedforIFLandICLsbyFSCCanadawillnotbereadyforthistime.Wewouldliketo
NFFStoPSUbefore31July2017forapproval.1.2.Certificateholdersshallmakepubliclyavailablethemapsoftheirmanagementunits,ofIFLswithinthesemanagementunits,ofannualharvestblocks,andofanyplannedlogginginIFLs,usingthe“IntactForestLandscapes.2000/2013”mapsaccessedthroughGlobalForestWatch(www.globalforestwatch.org)asabaseline.
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1.3.3Incountriesthatarescoredbelow50inTransparencyInternational’scorruptionindex,therequirementsin1.1and1.2shallbeverifiedbyASI.
ForBrazil,thedate31July2017shouldbepostponedto"sixmonthsaftertheapprovalandpublicationoftheIGIsforIFLsproducedbytheHCVTWG."
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exploredevelopingstagedrequirementsandcomingtoagreementwithFSCIConaworkplanandtimelinethatwilldeliversuccessfuloutcomes.‘’…oramendtheexistingNFSSwithIFLindicators’’Doesthismeanthatwe(Russia)cantakeourrecentNFSS,basedonP&CV4,andincorporateIFLindicatorsasrequiredbyM65there?Ifyes,whataretherequirementsforthenationalapprovalofsucha“hybrid”NFSS?Aretheythesameasin60-006?(twopublicconsultationsnotlessthan60dayseach,consultativeforumetc.),oraretheyeasier?Shallwesubmitthewholestandardfortheconsultations,orjustindicators?Andsoon.Isupposethatthereshallbeasetofrulesforthisoption.Andhowwilltherequirementsforthefurthertransferofthis“hybrid”standardtoP&CV5looklike?Theprocedure,thetimeschedule,etc.?Research:FSCshouldreviewalldeadlines,consideringthatthedefinition
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regardingIFL’sfuturewillonlybetakenattheFSCGA2017.
1.3 The approved NFSSshall be published by 01October 2017 to becomeeffective on 01 January2018.
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Economic:Idem,timelineuntilend2018ThistiminggoesagainsttherulesoftransferofstandardsapprovedandvalidintheFSCsystem.OurreadingisCHmustbeinconformancewiththenew/revisedstandardbyJan2018.Thisleavesonly3monthstodevelopmapsANDthelaunchingofcommunicationsstrategies(soit’sclearwhat’srequiredoncecommunicationsarelaunched).Thistimelineseemsveryshort.PerhapsthemappingofIFLsshouldbedoneasthe1ststepinpriority(toinformtheprocessinsection#1forCHandCBs),thenworkcanbedoneonhowtheywillneedtobetakenintoaccount.Environment:ThisproposalgoesagainstalltherulesoftransferofstandardsapprovedandvalidintheFSCsystem,thetransferprocessprovidesfor1yearofadaptationperiodbetweenstandards,thistimeis
Economic:Timelineuntilend2018…oraccordingtoagreedworkplantimetableProposalforBrazil:1-Delete.Or2-Thiswillbeeffectiveonthefield1yearaftertheapprovalbythePSUofthestandardthisbecomesvalidinthefield.EnvironmentProposalto(i)Deleteor(ii)Maintainthedeadlinesalreadyforeseenwithinthenormsoftransfer,thatis,1yearaftertheapprovalbythePSUofthestandardthisbecomesvalidinthefield.NationalOffice:PleaseclarifyhowtodealwithICLs.IntheIFLSolutionsForum,someresponsibilitiesweregiventothePIPCtosubmitaworkplanandatimeline.Thisshouldremainanimportantaspect.Modification:1.3TheapprovedNFSSshallbepublishedby31December2017tobecomeeffectiveon01September2018.
TheAdvicetoSDGswillbedroppedout.
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necessary,evenmoreatthismomentwheretheV5standardhasgreatchangesandWhichreflectsignificantchangesinthefieldbythecertificateholders.SuchadeadlinelikepresentedisimpracticableandwillimplythelossofallcertificatesintheBrazilianAmazon.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambercommentsinBrazilNationalOffice:ThisAdviceNotedoesn’tmentionICL.AttheIFLSolutionForuminJuly,thePIPCmadeclearthattheywon’tsupportIFLimplementationbeforeICLhasbeendeterminedasthisconceptofIFLmaybeconflictingwiththeirrightsandinterestsandwiththeICLconcept.DuringtheForum,ithasbeenclearlystatedthatIFLcannotstandwithoutICL.Sofar,IGIsarenotfullyfinalized,wedon’thavecleardefinitionsonICLandweareimplementinghighlycomplexprocessesacrosstheGlobe,quitedifferentsometimesbetweenkey
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prioritiesregion.Research:Twomonths(JulytoOctober2017)seemstobeanambitiousdeadlinetoPSUevaluateNFSSoffourcountries.Furthermore,thisschedulegoesagainsttheproceduretotransfertheIGIs,whichgivesCHsandCBsoneyearofadaptationtothenewNFSS.
1.4 A communicationsplan shall be launchedwith all affectedcertificateholdersineachcountry/sub-region,ensuring a dialogue onIFL areas that leads toclear maps beingdevelopedbeforetheendof 2017 (maps shall bebased on existing mapsprovided through GlobalForest Watch, but withthe flexibility to updateto current situation incases where newinformationisavailable).
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Economic:MappingshouldnotbebasedonGFWmapsonly,butonregionallyadaptedinterpretationofIFL.ItseemsthesemapswillbedifferentthantheonestobeconsideredbyCHholdersintheinterim(1.1insectionforCHandCBs)butitwouldbelessconfusingiftheywerethesame,i.e.themappingexerciserequiredundersection2shouldbedonepriortorequestingCHholderdisclosingplannedlogging.Itcouldreduceconfusiontoseparaterequirementsonthemappingfromthecommunicationplanissue.Thecommunicationpartof1.4shouldbetransferredto1.5anditshouldbeclarifiedspecificallywhowilldevelop
Economic:RemovethesentenceinparenthesisTimelineaccordingtoagreedworkplantimetableNationalOffice:Communicationplanneedstobedefinedinaccordancewiththeworkplan.
TheAdvicetoSDGswillbedroppedout.We’llproviderecommendationforthecommunicationsplanintheNewsItem
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andimplementthecommunicationsplan(i.e.NationalInitiativesorPSUintheabsenceofNis.)andwhoisresponsiblefordevelopingmaps.Environment:Thisshouldbearequirementforoption2aswell.NationalOffice:Maybepossiblebutwearenotintotalharmonywiththe«datasourceofIFL»aswritteninthe«Terms&definitions»section.Sensitivityofmappingandidentificationneedsfurtherdiscussion.ButoverallagreefullywithneedforacommunicationplanthatiscoordinatedwithFSCIC.Research:Wouldbemorelogicaltoextendthedeadlinestolaunchthestandardstogetherwiththemaps,becausetheimplementationofindicatorsdependsonthemaps.ThepublicationofindicatorsinOctoberandthemapsonlyinDecemberwouldcreateauselessgap.
1.5Communicationsshallbe initiated withgovernments explaining
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Economic:Whodoesthis?
Economic:Clarifytheresponsibility
WesupportthesuggestionfromtheNationalOfficeto
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the IFL process, what itaims to achieve andhowit may impact onconcessionholders.
WhatisthecommunicationapproachiftheIFLprocessconflictswithestablishedgovernmentproceduresforprotectedareasand/orwithforestmanagementrequirementsthroughthegovernment-regulatedFMPprocess?NationalOffice:WhilenotapprovedtheIFLapproach/indicators,theactivitieswouldfocusonengaginggovernmentsonthediscussionofimportanceofIFLsandtheFSCstandarddevelopmentprocess.It´sstillnotclearwhatacorezonemeansthelevelofmanagementallowedonIFL.HowthecommunicationintheproposedwaywithGovernmentswouldoccurswithoutcausingpanic?Theengagementonstandarddevelopmentprocesswouldbemoreeffective.
CommunicationswithgovernmentsshallbeinitiatedbyFSCNationalofficesexplainingtheNationalForestStewardshipStandarddevelopmentprocessandhowIFL/ICLindicatorsaretobeintegratedintoafinalNFSSNationalOffice:1.5DuringIFLindicatorsdevelopment,governmentsasastakeholdershallbeinvitedtotakepartoftheconsultationprocess.AfterapprovalofNFSScommunicationsshallbeinitiatedwithgovernmentsexplainingtheIFLprocess,whatitaimstoachieveandhowitmayimpactonconcessionholders.
invitegovernmentrepresentativestoparticipatetheconsultationprocessoftheIFLindicators.We’llproviderecommendationforthistopicintheNewsItem
Option2:AdoptingtheInternational GenericIndicators
NOTE: Option 2 onlyapplies when NetworkPartner or SDGs fail toimplementOption1.
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Economic:‘’Option’’isnotreallyanoptionhereOPTION1section1.4&1.5shouldbeincludedinbothOption1and2.Communicationsplanswillbenecessaryregardlessofwhethernational/regionalorinternational
Economic:Selectotherwordfor‘’Options1and2’’ordropOption2
ThispartoftheAdviceNotewillbedroppedout,inordertoprovidesufficienttimeforthedialoguewiththeIndigenousPeoples
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indicatorsareused.ThisoptiondoesnotpermitthedevelopmentofaflexibleandintegratedapproachthatisnecessaryforthepossibilityofapragmaticIFL/ICLoutcomeintheCanadianNFSS.
2.1 For countries wherenational IFL indicatorshavenotbeen submittedtoPSUbytheendofJuly2017, the following shallapply:
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Economic:ThedatecannotbefixedsincethegenericinternationalindicatorsforIFLaswellastheirconceptualdefinitionsarestillindevelopmentandfarfrombeingapproved.Environment:ThedatecannotbefixedsincethegenericinternationalindicatorsforIFLaswellastheirconceptualdefinitionsarestillindevelopmentandfarfrombeingapprovedbytheBrazilians.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambercommentsinBrazil
Economic:Proposal:replace"bytheendofJuly2017"with"sixmonthsafterapprovalofmaterialfromtheInternationalWorkingGrouponIFLs".Environment:ProposalforBrazil:replace"bytheendofJuly2017"with"sixmonthsafterapprovalofmaterialfromtheinternationalHCVTWG".
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2.2TheNetworkPartneror SDG shall incorporatethe default generic IFLindicators (as presentedin FSC-STD-60-004 V1-1)intotheexistingNFSS.
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Economic:TheFSC-STD-60-004V1-1isnotadopted.FSCInternationalwebsiteindicatethat“Firstconsultationisnowclosed.Wearecurrentlyassessing
Economic:Tobeclear,theAdviceNoteshouldre-stateanylanguageitneedstoreferfromaDraftstandardorindicatewhetherornotthedraftorthefinalversionwillapply.
ThispartoftheAdviceNotewillbedroppedout,inordertoprovidesufficienttimeforthedialoguewiththe
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feedback.”Itdoesappearcontradictorytobothbeconsultingonindicatorsandapplyingthemwhiledraftinanadvicenote.Itisalsounclearwhethertheseindicatorsshouldbeusedascurrentlydrafted(moreoverthedraftdocumentisnomoreaccessible)orifthefinalversionwillbetheonetobeimplemented.
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2.3TherevisedNFSSshallbe submitted to PSU forapproval by the end ofJuly2017.
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Economic:Thedatescannotbefixedsincethegenericinternationalindicatorsanddefinitionsarestillunderdevelopmentandfarfrombeingapproved.Environment:ThedatecannotbefixedsincethegenericinternationalindicatorsforIFLaswellastheirconceptualdefinitionsarestillindevelopmentandfarfrombeingapprovedbytheBrazilians.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambercommentsinBrazil
Economic:Thereshouldbenoshort-cutoftheNFSStransferprocessforthesolepurposeofimplementingIFLindicators.ProposalforBrazil:replace"bytheendofJuly2017"with"sixmonthsafterapprovalofmaterialfromtheInternationalWorkingGrouponIFLs".Environment:ProposalforBrazil:replace"bytheendofJuly2017"with"sixmonthsafterapprovalofmaterialfromtheinternationalHCVTWG".
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2.4TheapprovedNFSSshallbepublishedby01October2017tobecomeeffectiveon01January2018.
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Economic:Moretimeisnecessary,evenmoreatthismomentwheretheV5standardhasgreatchangesandreflects
Economic:ProposalforBrazil:1- Delete.2- Or2-tomaintainthedeadlines
ThispartoftheAdviceNotewillbedroppedout,inordertoprovidesufficienttimeforthe
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significantchangesinthefieldSuchadeadlineisimpracticableThistimelineisnotconsistentwiththestandardandproceduresthatsurroundthetransferordevelopmentofNFSS.Environment:ThisproposalgoesagainstalltherulesoftransferofstandardsapprovedandvalidintheFSCsystem,thetransferprocessprovidesfor1yearofadaptationperiodbetweenstandards,thistimeisnecessary,evenmoreatthismomentwheretheV5standardhasgreatchangesandWhichreflectsignificantchangesinthefieldbythecertificateholders.SuchadeadlinelikepresentedisimpracticableandwillimplythelossofallcertificatesintheBrazilianAmazon.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambercommentsinBrazil
alreadyforeseenwithinthenormsoftransfer,thatis,1yearaftertheapprovalbythePSUofthestandardthisbecomesvalidinthefield.EnvironmentProposalto(i)Deleteor(ii)Maintainthedeadlinesalreadyforeseenwithinthenormsoftransfer,thatis,1yearaftertheapprovalbythePSUofthestandardthisbecomesvalidinthefield.
dialoguewiththeIndigenousPeoples
Additionalquestion: Suggestionsforadditionalsafeguards PSUresponse
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FSC secretariat islooking for additionalsafeguards to limitlogging in IFLs in 2017and 2018.Do youhavesuggestionsforsuch?
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TheMinistryofForests,WildlifeandParksofQuebecsupportsforestcompaniesintheprovincewhowishtogetforestcertification.Inaccordancewiththisobjective,wewanttomeasuretheimpactthetransitionalmeasuresproposedbytheFSC(Motion65)willhaveonexistingcertificates.Tocarryoutthisanalysis,wemustfirstlyupdatetheintactforestlandscapes(IFL)layerproducedbytheGlobalForestWatchin2013.WealsoneedtovalidatetheIFLsectorsthathavebeenidentifiedsincetheyweregeneratedfromsatelliteimagery.Theseoperationsrequiretomanagealotofdataandtaketime.Furthermore,FSCCanadapublishestodayaguidefortheimplementationoftheIFLconceptinCanada.Giventheimportanceofthisissue,youwillunderstandthatweprefertocompleteouranalysisandtakeintoaccountallavailableinformationbeforesharinganycommentswithFSCInternational.Therefore,youwillreceiveourconclusionsbytheendofDecember2016,ifrelevant.ItistroublingthatFSCSecretariatislookingforadditionalsafeguardstolimitlogginginIFLswhiletheBoardofdirectorshasmandatedtheSecretariattoavoid“thesignificantundesiredsideeffectsinsomeofthemostimportantcountriesforFSC”.Aswritten,thisAdviceNotemightnotevenpreventthose“significantundesiredeffects”tohappen.Thisissueshouldbefirstmanagedatthecountrylevelandnotatthemanagementunitlevel.IfacountryalreadyhasmostofitsIFLoutsidethereachofforestmanagementactivities,itshouldsufficetomeettheintentofprotectingIFL.AdditionalindicatorsshouldbedevelopedinaveryshorttimeframeforrestoringIFLincountrieswithfewIFLlefttodemonstratethatIFLisanewemergingvalueintheFSCworldandtoensuresomefairness.
ConsistentwithrecommendationsfromtheIFLSolutionsForum,FSCpersonnelshoulddevelopanengagementstrategywithCanadianprovincialagencieswithlanduseplanningjurisdiction.ManyareasthattodayinCanadaappearas‘IFLsaretheresultoflanduseplanningprocessesanddecisionsmadebyprovincialagencies.Goingforward,forIFLsthatarenotprotected,theCHisnotincontrolofthisoutcomeandcanonlymakerecommendationstolanduseplanningauthorities.Government
TheseaspectswillbetakenintoconsiderationswhenformulatingtheAgendasforthenextIFLSolutionsForummeetings
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agenciesmayacttoimplementanIFLprotectionrecommendation,rejectit,acceptatemporarydeferral,confirmexistingallocationofthelandforforestmanagement,re-allocatethelandorotherpurposeconsistentwiththepublicinterest.FirstNationswillbeconsultedbygovernmentintheseprocesses.Agreeincertaincircumstancesandregionsthat‘logging’inIFLhasnoimpactontheintegrity,intactnessandbiodiversityoftheforest.
Allowing SFM (Sustainable Forest Management) will attain the objective that FSCstrivesfor:
• tomaintainthetropicalforestandavoidconversiontootherland-uses;
• to see IFL in its wider landscape context: protected areas which could beincreased and SFM in the surrounding area, where for ex. In the tropicalforests, there is no impact on connectivity, wildlife is well protected andforestsaremaintainedunderFSCcertified,SFM;
InterpretIFLinitswidercontext,useascientificbasisforimplementingtheconcept,based on scientific information of degradation, un-sustainable management andfragmentation,andnotonsatelliteimagesofroadsonly.
ThepositiontoIFLcoreareasmustcomeupwithaclearroadmap:arecertificateholdersallowedtoharvestornotwithinCoreAreasduringthistransitionperiod?
WhataboutthosewhohavestartedharvestingwithinthoseareaswithrespecttotheirongoingManagementPlans?Aretheylosingtheircertificates?
ArecertifiedcompaniesbeingallocatedthepossibilitytoidentifytheirIFLcoreareasduringtheirplanning?
If those questions can be answered, than we can assess as well the need to addfurthersafeguards.
Brazil: Very concerned with potential problems in tropical forests the fact thatopinionsarenotbeenheardbytheWorkingGrouporFSChimself.
Brazil:VoicesfromthefieldclaimsthatifthisconceptisappliedhowitisFSCwillnotlhaveanycertifiedforestmanagementoperationsintropicalforests.Thisthiswillbeahugelossforall.Aforestwithouteconomicvaluewillturnintonon-forestuse.
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Brazil:TheadoptionoftheIFLoperationsrestrictionsonFSCForestManagementcertifiedareasisanindirectassumptionthatFSCcertificationhasnoeffectiveness,despitealltechnicalinformationbedemonstratingtheopposite.Brazil:It’simportanttoclarifythatiftheIFLwillbeadopted,theFSCwilllossallFMcompaniesinAmazonia,openingspacetotheillegalwood.TheIFLmodeldoesn'tworkstotheseriousAmazonianCompanies.Environment:WehaveintegratedsafeguardsthroughoutthetextoftheAdvice,seeabove.
InBrazil,weunderstandthepressureandthedemandsfrommemberstoapplythismotion,butwearealsoveryworriedaboutthepotentialproblemsthemotionmayresulttothecertificationoftropicalforests.WehavethefeelingthatourconcernsarenotlistenedbytheHCVTechnicalWorkingGroup.Youallneedtobeawarethatifthisconceptwillbeappliedinitsoriginalform,therewillbenolongerFSCcertifiedforestmanagementinthetropics.Thiswouldbeabigloss,becausetheforestthatdonothaveeconomicvalueturnsintoothernon-forestsuses.InBrasilweonlyhave10forestsmanagementunitscertified,becausewearestrugglingwiththeillegallogging.IfFSCcreatesmoreproblemstothecertifiedcompanies,whicharealreadyinthebrinkofeconomicfeasibility,theymaybelostforgood.Itismorethanatechnicalproblem,itisapoliticalissueforus,andwethinkthatFSCICandothersarenotlisteningus.Oursystem(FSCsystem)havebeenalreadyquestioninourcountry,becauseofothermistakesformFSCIC.Social:SupportsEconomicandEnvironmentalchambercommentsinBrazilNationalOffices:FSCCanadawouldliketoworkwithourstakeholderstonegotiateasolutionandagreeonpotentialsafeguardsforCanada.AnexampleinCanadacouldbetheimplementationofthecaribouindicator…..FSCwouldadvicetheuseofReducedImpactLoggingonIFLuntilIFLindicatorapprovalatnationalleveltogetherwithclearguidanceonwhat“coreareas*”means.Mostimportantistobeclearisifcoreareaiswithinmanagementunitoratlandscape
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level.Ifcoreareacouldbebetterexplained,FSCwouldincludearecommendationforcertificateholdersthattimberharvestingandroadbuildingarenotpermittedinsideIFLcoreareaswithinthemanagementunitsayingalsotheminimum%ofcoreareathatshouldbedefinedbytheCHtakingintoconsiderationlandscapelevelandmanagementplan.*Coreareas:TheportionofanIntactForestLandscape*whereintactnessismaintained,thatcontainsthemostimportantecologicalandculturalvaluesandwheretimberharvestingandroadbuildingaregenerallynotpermitted.(FSC-STD-60-004V1-0ENINTERNATIONALGENERICINDICATORS)My thoughts around how could be shaped the next Advice Note, allowing key regions to pursue the initiated work: According to me, FSC should act as a facilitator to insure that IFL debate is consequently connected to:
- Key areas for conservations (not only for forest stands: endangered species, sensible biotopes…);
- Human footprints and its prospective with the land-use plans being developed by WRI across the Globe;
- Indigenous and local communities territories; - Key ecological corridors that should be maintained for the humankind (network
of protected areas and FSC certified concessions). We didn’t start properly the dialogue with governments by lack of human resources and of money. Inviting governments for a roundtable is extremely costly and time-consuming. This dialogue will be highly difficult but needed, of course. I already know that reviewing a management plan because of the Motion 65 would be something almost impossible in a time frame inferior to 05 years, because we are not parliamentarians and even if FSC is changing the paradigms of the forestry sector for 20 years, we need time and means to achieve our mission. The indicator 1.5 is key in the process, and this would require a real brainstorm between Regional Offices, PSU and Director’s Office to see how we could be relevant and efficient here. FSC Congo Basin Office is committed to implement the Advice Note and FSC policies but we enter in a new phase here, after the already commonly accepted HCV management.
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I would also allow myself to ask that the next version of the Advice Note be more clear in terms of what is prohibited and what is accepted until a new NFSS enters into force. This is highly sensitive but needs to be discussed by our peers and across the chamber.
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