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Jonathan: Hey, everyone. Jonathan Bailor back and I am excited. I

am always excited but I am really excited about today’s

session because when thinking about taking it a level

deeper than calories, which we got to and that is just

obsolete, for a while there people did take it a level

deeper.

They went down to macro-nutrients or figuring out high

protein – low protein, high fat – low fat, carbohydrate

restriction, but then there were these two people who

were like, “No way. That is not enough. I want to go even

deeper. I want to go into micro-nutrients.”

These are vitamins and minerals and you will learn way

more about it today but let’s just put it this way, if you

thought calories weren’t where it is at which they are not

and then you moved on to working with micro-nutrients

that certainly be very helpful but just wait until you learn

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what understanding and being sufficient in micro-

nutrients can do for your health and longevity, and

pronunciation abilities.

Joining us today are my personal friends Jayson and Mira

Calton, just absolutely fabulous people. They have a huge

number of letters behind their name but I don’t want to

rest on that. I will let them speak for themselves because

when you hear the wisdom that comes from them you

will just be overwhelmed like I was.

They just released this brilliant book called Naked Calories.

I love it and they are here to talk with us about micro-

nutrients, health, longevity and just how awesome they

are. Jayson and Mira, welcome.

Mira: Thank you so much, Jonathan.

Jayson: It is great to be here.

Mira: We are absolutely excited to be able to talk to everybody

about our little love micro, teeny little nutrients.

Jayson: Yeah.

Jonathan: Let’s just get right into it. Jayson and Mira, there is so

much attention paid to calories and then if people aren’t

worried about calories they are worried about whether

they are low carb or high carb, low fat or high fat.

When we spent some time together on this year’s Low

Carb Cruise, you dropped so many truth bombs on it is

really about micro-nutrients and getting those from the

right sources but you could be eating low carb and high

protein all day, if you are not getting your micro-nutrients,

you are not going to healthy and fit.

Jayson: Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. We really started to

take a look at nutrition from a different perspective. Of

course, there is the macro-nutrient perspective. Like you

said, carbs, fats and proteins. How many of them should




we eat, what ratio should we have, and what dietary

philosophy are we overall going to adhere to and build

throughout our lifetime?

All those things matter but they are kind of on this side of

our coin. We really want to look on the other side of the

coin. We want to look at the micro-nutrients. Micro-

nutrients like you said are those things like vitamins,

minerals and fatty acids, things that are found in our

foods but if we are deficient in them, like if you are

deficient in calcium and magnesium, Vitamin K and

Vitamin D, you are likely going to get osteoporosis.

It doesn’t matter if you are a vegan or a carnivore, or what

that macro-nutrient ratio is, if those essential micro-

nutrients sufficiency isn’t met, then we are going to open

ourselves up for all kinds of health conditions; from

headaches to poor sleep patterns, to low energy and

even diseases as well, like cancer, diabetes, hypertension

and what we are going to talk about today is how that

micro-nutrient deficiency has been linked to overweight-

obesity.

Now of course overweight-obesity is a huge pandemic we

have been facing across the world, specifically and

especially here in America and we have tried everything,

haven’t we? You turn on the TV and you are going to see

everything from, I don’t know, stomach zappers to

aerobic classes to something suction.

Mira: Hopefully no one is buying those things.

Jayson: You see all these things in this country to try to lose

weight and what has happened? We haven’t lost any

weight. In fact, our weight has continuously gone up and

so one of the areas that seems like the elephant in the

room to us, because this is our field of expertise is why

isn’t anybody looking at the studies that have been done




linking very specifically deficiencies and specific micro-

nutrients with being overweight or obese?

In fact, we believe that micro-nutrient deficiency is a key

puzzle piece in eventually eradicating this health

condition.

Jonathan: I cannot wait to dig into those specific studies and I just

want to really highlight and emphasize what you said

because so often, in addition to not successfully losing

weight on a national scale, for individuals who are

successfully able to lose weight, like let’s say people in the

fitness or really let’s call it advanced physique world, if

you look at the way they eat, again it is so macro-nutrient

and calorie focused.

It is great to eat for example a chicken breast. That is

useful but why not eat clams? Clams also provide you

with protein but you get way more micro-nutrients. I so

celebrate you guys bringing the attention here because

you’ve got to eat calories for energy. You’ve got to get it

from some source, macro-nutrients but there is a vast

under-appreciation.

Chicken is great but if you are interested in micro-

nutrients, you will probably look at some other options,

right?

Mira: Absolutely, it is the whole bang for the bite, as we like to

say. Why are you eating in the first place? Because you

need the energy, yes, which is of course obviously we all

know that but it is also what is the food delivering to your

body? What micro-nutrients, vitamins and minerals are in

every single bite?

We like to call those rich foods, things that are really

micro-nutrient dense of micro-nutrient rich and we like to

tell people to look for the majority of things coming from

micro-nutrient rich foods because that will supply you

with enough of these vitamins and minerals to not only




keep you healthy but also to allow you to lose further

weight or even start your weight loss project.

One thing that people don’t realize is when they go on

these diets they restrict the foods that they are eating

and they keep restricting them down so they only have

like four or five things that they are eating, but you are

also only getting four or five sets of vitamins or minerals

and we tell people all the time, don’t lose a pant size to

gain a heart attack.

They keep getting deficient in these vitamins and

minerals and they are opening themselves up for other

probably more serious illnesses and diseases to take

place later on, even if they do get thin.

Jonathan: Getting the most bang for your bite, that is such a brilliant

point because especially as we get more hormonally

healthy and we re-regulate our appetite centers, we will

naturally have less cravings and it will be easy for us, we

will spontaneously reduce our caloric intake.

Spontaneous reduction in caloric intake has been shown,

study after study as we dial the quality of our diet up, but

if we are eating less it is even more important that we are

eating nutrient dense foods because if you get a lap band

surgery and you are eating 400 calories a day of Doritos

you are even worse off, right?

Mira: Right, and you can’t absorb your macro-nutrients

anymore after that surgery.

Jayson: If you got a lap band surgery, you’ve got gastric bypass,

you have to be on a supplement for the rest of your life. It

doesn’t mean you are going to absorb that supplement,

we can talk about that later but yeah, the less calories

that you eat overall obviously you are going to be getting

less micro-nutrients, even if you are focusing on micro-

nutrient rich foods like we talk about in our other book

Rich Food, Poor Food.




We show you how to find the most micro-nutrient rich

foods in the grocery store but the idea is we have a three-

step approach that we talk about in Naked Calories. Food

first and we are like you, we are food first people. We

want to get people to either make horizontal swaps like

you talked about, like looking at clamps or higher micro-

nutrient dense protein over chicken or just learning how

to pick the best chicken.

Understand the difference between pasture raised,

organically raised chicken that has not been fed GMO,

corn and soy, hasn’t been cooped up inside some kind of

dark room for its entire life and one that has been out in

the field pecking dirt, bugs and getting sunlight.

You don’t necessarily have to change your foods,

although I think it is a good idea to –

Mira: Skip the Doritos and choose something else.

Jayson: Yeah, your typical spectrum of foods but you definitely

want to get as many micro-nutrients in as you can and

that is really the key when it comes down to how are we

going to prevent these health conditions and these

diseases because ultimately that is what we want, isn’t it?

We want two-fold whenever we do anything. We want to

get in great shape, we want a great physical appearance

on the outside but just equally important or maybe more

important is are we healthy on the inside? That is what we

want.

Mira: They reflect each other.

Jayson: They do, they often reflect. Sometimes they don’t.

Sometimes you look at somebody and you are like, “Wow,

look how fit and healthy they look,” but it turns out

they’ve got arterial plaque or they’ve got depression, or

they are on three different medications.




What we want to do is we want to give you that holistic

lifestyle where these micro-nutrients are not only going to

help to reduce stress in your life, they are not only going

to help to reduce the cortisol levels that could store body

fat but they are also going to make it so you don’t have

the diseases later on, and they are going to help to burn

fat faster and that is really the big key that these micro-

nutrients actually have been shown with the same

amount of energy exerted, same amount of exercise, they

burn more calories.

Now again, we are not talking about calories being the be

all, end all but when it comes to burning fat, if we can

burn 25% more calories with the same effort, then that is

the key, and there is one micro-nutrient we will talk about

later that does that.

Jonathan: Brilliant. I am super-excited to get into those specific

micro-nutrients and deficiencies but one point I wanted

to make sure we hit on because I think it is easy for folks

to hear this, get really excited and then go get 60,000%

Vitamin C tomorrow.

When we talk about micro-nutrients, is more always

better?

Mira: No.

Jayson: No way.

Mira: No, you don’t want to have too much of one because it

can compete with another. You want to make sure to be

getting enough of all of them across the board but mega-

dosing is not our thing. More is not better. There are very

specific amounts that you need for each and educating

yourself about what you need in the best forms of them

and how to take them so they are actually absorbed, that

is what really matters.




It is not if I just throw them in there and say, I’ve got tons

in there, hopefully it is going to work.

Jonathan: This seems like maybe one area where the mainstream

media kind of hit on some truths because we know they

struggle with the truth sometimes but for example, they

say, “Eat the rainbow.”

If you are like someone like me, I fell into this trap a

couple of years ago where I was like, kale is really good

for you. I am going to eat ten servings of kale a day and it

sounds like you would be much better off saying, get your

serving of kale but then eat some other stuff too.

Mira: Yeah, in Rich Food, Poor Food, we have the whole

spectrum of color and we say that you are painting your

masterpiece every day. Every single day, you would want

the fullest palette of color to work from.

We say, have your really rich beta-carotene, yellow and

orange foods. You want to have your chlorophyll, greens

coming in. You want to have all of the different colors so

you get all of the nutrients and you are getting the

broadest spectrum of micro-nutrients in your food every

single day.

Jonathan: Last question for selfish reasons, before we get into the

study is we also hear so much in the news this idea of two

things; one, organic versus non-organic and I want to

know what role that has in micro-nutrients and then also

cooking versus not cooking. Can we cover both of those?

Jayson: Yeah. The organic versus the non-organic, first of all, we

like local food. Local food again, where we take

everything from that micro-nutrient perspective so we

want that whatever food it is, to have as many micro-

nutrients as it can have, so we don’t want to pick

prematurely.

If it is local, it has been picked right. That is imperative.




Mira: The longer the food travels to get to you the more micro-

nutrients are lost from three elements; the air, the heat

and the light.

Jayson: Correct. That is going to be first and foremost. Then on

top of that, it would be great if it was organic, just so it

doesn’t have pesticides. Remember, pesticides are a toxin

and your micro-nutrients are your detoxifiers. More of

those toxins you put in, the faster you are going to burn

through your micro-nutrients.

Mira: They may have more of it. It is kind of tricky, because

while the local will have definitely more micro-nutrients in

them, if they are organic they are going to use more of

your micro-nutrient bank account to get them cleaned, to

get these toxins out of your body, so it is two-fold.

Jayson: Yeah, and of course we have our list with the full 14 and

terrible 20. It shows the 20 foods that you should buy

organically because of high pesticide residue and

potentially genetic modification and which 14 foods you

don’t really have to because they have been shown to

have low pesticides and they are never genetically

modified.

Mira: I will make available to all of your people.

Jonathan: Thank you. Then cooking and non-cooking. What is the

deal here?

Mira: Yeah. Cooking ruins your food. No, lightly cooked for

longer periods has the least amount of depletion. You

never want to just boil something in water, unless you are

making soup and you are drinking the water because that

is really where the micro-nutrients will end up. It is going

to end up in the broth and not in the vegetable itself.

Light steaming and you also want to put some butter on

top of it because you need the fat in order to absorb the

fat soluble micro-nutrients. Really, don’t overcook things.




Eating some things raw every single day is fabulous. We

do recommend having a salad but you also don’t want to

eat some things raw.

You don’t want to have raw cruciferous vegetables.

Jayson: No, you actually want to cook those.

Mira: You want to cook those.

Jayson: That is the exception to the rule. You need to break down

that fiber in order for the body to absorb the micro-

nutrients in that, so you would never want to eat that raw,

you are not going to get the nutrients –

Mira: That is your broccoli and your cauliflower.

Jayson: Yeah, any of the cruciferous vegetables and Mira made a

good point. Those micro-nutrients go into the water, so

make that into a soup or use it for a sauce, also a lid on

top of the pot when you are cooking because those

micro-nutrients will go out through the steam as well.

Jonathan: One more. Is there anything regarding food preparation?

We have with garlic, like eating a clove of garlic is not the

same and in fact, it’s not like you can eat ten cloves of

garlic, it doesn’t matter. Unless it is broken into pieces or

mashed, you are not getting anything. Are there other

things like that?

Mira: We have a bunch of them. On the garlic thing, yes, you

have to chop it but you always want to chop it at least 15

minutes before you put it into something to cook and you

never want to leave it cooking for more than 15 minutes

because it actually gets rid of it, it is call allicin is actually

that sulfuric compound that actually has all those great

aspects for cold healing and for anti-viral and all those

great things. It is called allicin.

You want to just make sure you don’t over-cook it or else

all that benefit is gone. I think colds are reduced 63%




when you have garlic twice a day and people who actually

have garlic actually have, one day faster recovery even if

they do catch a cold, so there is some pretty great studies

about what garlic can do.

Jayson: I don’t know that I can think off the top of my head any

other things that need to be prepared in advance like

that. One of the big things is don’t prepare too far

advance any of your foods.

A lot of times people chop up a fruit thing, a fruit platter,

three days ahead. Let’s get it all chopped up now and

stick it in the refrigerator and it has been exposed to the

air and to the light, and so again, keep everything whole

to the very last minute. Prepare fresh at that time, if you

can.

Jonathan: I love all of this motivation around micro-nutrients

because what we are going to dig into next are studies

showing that if we don’t keep our micro-nutrients top of

mind I don’t care how many calories we cut, how many

hours we spend on the treadmill, we may not be serving

ourselves as best as we could, right?

Jayson: Absolutely.

Mira: Absolutely. I guess our studies all started with one major

study that made us start to look at was there a link in the

first place. You can talk about the big study.

Jayson: Okay, so let’s talk about the big study and this is the one

that got us interested in really looking at this kind of how

it compares with overweight-obesity specifically. Of

course those who know us know that we first started

working with advanced osteoporosis and how we

reversed that in two years using our micro-nutrient

method but when we started to look at obesity, I started

to notice when I was working with my private clients over

15 years in private practice that when I would prescribe to

them a micro-nutrient regimen they would do much




better in the body fat, specifically fat burning aspect and

muscle building aspect of their overall training.

They wouldn’t go into catabolism, they wouldn’t break

down their muscle as much and what they were losing on

the scale would actually be body fat rather than body

weight or muscle which is what typically people lose when

they lose weight.

This study was published in 2007 in the Journal of

Economics and Human Biology and revealed that when

they looked at micro-nutrient deficient individuals they

found that those individuals had an 80.8% higher chance

of being overweight or obese than non-deficient

individuals.

This is a huge thing. Now this may seem like not great

news because almost everybody is micro-nutrient is

according to the FDA.

Mira: We’ve got 99% according to the USDA and FDA, are

deficient in at least one vitamin or mineral.

Jayson: Right. We are all walking around with some micro-

nutrient deficiencies which is probably one of the reasons

why we start to see such a huge rise in the obesity

epidemic with all the diets and with all the pills and with

all the gimmicks, but if you turn that on its head wouldn’t

it stand a reason then if we are micro-nutrient selfish and

you have an 80.8% greater likelihood of not being

overweight and obese? That is really the take home

message here.

Mira: That should be on the news. I don’t understand why no

one is talking about that fact. They have some huge links

and if we could just say just become sufficient of not

becoming overweight or obese go up by 80.8% that is

huge.




Jayson: Yeah. That doesn’t mean you are going to be fit and your

perfect ultimate optimal self. You still have to exercise

and you still have to eat right and you have to do all this

but look at what it does to your overall chances. It brings

your chances so low of being overweight or obese, that

puts you in a really good fighting position than to put all

the other information on top of that and say okay, now I

am going to put on my nutritional philosophy and

whatever my dietary philosophy is and all my bonuses

and all my knowledge about exercise, and all my

knowledge about just everything else on top of it to

create this kind of really optimal self or optimal lifestyle.

Jonathan: It seems like while that number is so high and I imagine

some viewers may think that is too good to be true but

actually too obvious to be false because all we are talking

about is if you don’t give your car oil, you probably have

90% or higher chance of it breaking down.

Mira: Exactly.

Jonathan: Systems have things they need and vitamins and minerals

are essential. If you don’t have that which you need to not

be sick chances are you are going to get sick.

Jayson: I will just say it again, Jonathan. We need people to

understand this. When you don’t get the essential things

your body needs you will break down and break down in

human terms mean these lifestyle and health conditions.

It is not chance that if you are not sufficient you are going

to get these things. Why are we even talking about

anything else? Why aren’t we talking about micro-nutrient

sufficiency and building from there? This is what we have

been doing backwards all along.

Mira: When people start a diet, we really want them to

understand, this should be the first thing you. Look at

your micro-nutrients and then build up the macro-

nutrients, and then build up to your workout program




and everything else you want to do because unless you

get these things down here, it is going to be a real

problem later.

Just food cravings alone, we can talk a load about food

cravings if you want, food cravings is just one example of

micro-nutrient deficiencies wreaking havoc in the diet and

then causing you to be obese. A lot of elderly people have

a zinc deficiency and zinc deficiency makes it so that you

can’t taste your food.

You will notice if you ever see a lot of people going

grocery shopping or something, they are always buying a

lot of candies, always buying a lot of the same exact

things because they have intense flavors. That is just one

micro-nutrient that has been linked to over-eating.

Animals who have zinc deficiencies in the studies will

actually eat more of the same foods just to try to get the

flavor out of it.

Jayson: Does that make sense? If you’ve got an elderly person and

you noticed that they are starting to put on weight, this is

going to be a major thing?

Mira: See if they can taste their food.

Jayson: Right. If they can’t taste the food they just want to keep

putting it in and that taste receptor is also sending signals

to the brain and it is sending signals that specific micro-

nutrient is coming in, so we are just like one big computer

receptor system. If our bodies first visually see color, we

start to say that color tells me that there is specific micro-

nutrients in those foods that I need to survive.

That’s why you go to a fruit and vegetable stand, it is full

of color.

Mira: That is why they make the candies the same color.




Jayson: That is why they make all the candies the same. Go into a

candy store, what does it look like? It looks like fruits and

vegetables, so it attracts us and then of course when we

eat that sugar we become addicted to it because we know

that there is studies out of the University of Bordeaux in

France.

They studied sugar and they found that it is more

addictive than cocaine. I can’t think of anything much

more addictive than cocaine but sugar is one of them and

then we eat the sugar and it blocks our ability to absorb

two very vital micro-nutrients when we are talking about

food cravings specifically, calcium and magnesium.

Calcium and magnesium are really at the epicenter of

food cravings. A lot of people thing it is just poor

discipline. I have tried and I ate a certain way, I followed

this diet and I get everything right. I lost 50 lbs. and look,

everybody around me is telling me how great I did and

my family is giving me positive reinforcement, my co-

workers are and I bought a whole new wardrobe. I feel

great and I look in the mirror and I am the person I

always wanted to be.

Why do you ultimately pick up that Big Mac again? Why

are you ultimately chowing down on donuts again and

why do you regain the weight? If we can answer that

question we can get to the basis of really ultimately we

don’t have a weight loss issue in America, we have a

weight re-gain issue in America.

We are gaining that weight back again because of the

deficiencies in calcium and magnesium, because when we

are deficient in these things it makes us crave sugar and

salt.

Mira: The Bonneau Research Center actually did some studies

on this and they basically found that whenever you get a

deficiency in either the calcium or magnesium, it is this




beginning of these food cravings and they did a lot of

studies with animals and salt licks and stuff like that, but

they did it with humans and they found that basically

what happens is you crave something that is really sweet

because you have this magnesium deficiency.

Then you eat something that is sweet, that has sugar in it

and then your deficiency gets even worse because it

blocks magnesium from getting into your body, so it just

keeps bringing down your sufficiency level.

When I had advanced osteoporosis, my thing was literally

Swedish fish and if you live in New York City you know

that there is these candy stores down every single street,

you can’t even go a block and I used to literally go in and

always grab something sweet.

Now it is so crystal clear to me. I was getting this and I

was eating the deficiency which was just further robbing

my bones and that is really true with salty things as well.

Jayson: Yeah. When you eat a salty food you have that salt

craving and there are two groups of individuals. They are

either a salty or a sweet and me, I much rather have salty

foods. Mira was a sweet-a-holic, she was a sugar-a-holic.

Jonathan: She is a sweetie, just say it. She is a sweetie.

Mira: Thanks, honey.

Jayson: It makes a lot of sense now, so when you eat a salty snack

that salt goes in and robs the calcium from your bones. It

pulls the calcium out of your bones, it brings into the

bloodstream, tricks your body into thinking that calcium

deficiency is over but of course, it also blocks the body’s

ability to absorb more calcium and that just becomes a

vicious cycle.

Bottom line, get rid of those two deficiencies and of

course when you look at your typical multi-vitamin

Jonathan, what are you going to find? Go pick one out of




your medicine cabinet. Anybody watching right now, I

guarantee your multivitamin does not have 600

milligrams of calcium and 400 milligrams of magnesium,

like it should.

Mira: If you are taking a liquid, chances are there is sugar in

there which is just insane to do that to somebody.

Additionally, and just on a side note, nothing about sugar

is it also blocks Vitamin C from getting into receptor cells

which is why every single January after the holiday

season, the number one thing that hits is the cold and flu

season and that is because everyone has been eating

sugary treats.

If you normally get that New Year cold, then you should

probably try to cut back on the sweets during the holiday

season this year and you will have a much better

likelihood of not getting it.

Jonathan: So many truth bombs in there Jayson and Mira, and one

that I want to really highlight because again when we’ve

been so brainwashed with just the calories, one, we’ve

heard and it is somewhat true that one of the reasons

sugar is bad for us is it is empty calories, but –

Jayson: Naked calories.

Jonathan: Yes, naked. What you have exposed here is hugely

powerful. When we eat these processed garbage foods

not only are we not getting micro-nutrients but these

foods are, they are almost negative nutrition if I am

understanding properly, they are not just not giving us

what we need, they are ripping whatever we have left of

what we do need away. It is almost like the counterpoint

to healthy foods, it negates them in a way.

Mira: Right. We call these every day micro-nutrient depleters.

Depleters is a word we made up obviously but we call the

everyday micro-nutrient depleters EMDs and these are

the things that over time, we call them the stealth little




thieves and what they do is they are robbing you of the

micro-nutrients that you do have in your body and sugar

is one of them.

It continuously lowers your micro-nutrient bank account,

as we put it, and sugar is one, high fructose corn syrup is

one.

Jayson: Fructose in general. These foods actually they need

micro-nutrients in order to be metabolized. They don’t

bring any with them that is the thing. You’ve got your

crystalline white sugar which by the way now is coming

from genetically modified sugar beets, 55% of the time in

processed foods.

Mira: Which have been proven. Now GMOs are proven to

actually cause weight gain as well.

Jayson: Then your body can’t do anything with them because they

don’t have any micro-nutrients. Micro-nutrients help with

the metabolism, so then they have to use yours. The

more sugar you eat, it is like you said, you start burning

through your micro-nutrients faster, and so they become

an anti-nutrient actually. It is like a black hole, they

actually suck nutrition out of you and they aren’t bringing

anything good in.

Mira; We have about 12 or 15 of them in the book of all of

these EMDs that we have located that appear either in

your foods or things you do to yourself through your

lifestyle that are robbing you after. To the addition to

what you are actually taking in, these are the subtraction

part that nobody looks at very often.

Jonathan: Brilliant. We now understand that we’ve got to have these

essential micro-nutrients to be properly functioning and

certainly if we are not, it is non-negotiable, we are going

to get sick and break down. We have figured out ways

now that much of what the American population is eating




is not only micro-nutrient poor but it is micro-nutrient

negative, for lack of a better term.

Tell me some more about some of the most specific and

shocking studies around if you are deficient in this micro-

nutrient, this will predictably happen.

Mira: Vitamin D. They are calling it the skinny vitamin after all

and there is a lot of good studies out on Vitamin D. If you

think about it, a lot of people think that they become

thinner in the summer because it is bathing suit season

or something. If you have ever noticed, lay in the sun for a

while, you are going to notice that you aren’t so hungry

anymore and that is because a deficiency in Vitamin D

actually makes it so that your leptin isn’t working.

Your leptin is going to tell you that you are full, so you are

laying out in the sun and all of a sudden you feel fine and

you don’t need food. When winter rolls around and we

are not getting the Vitamin D, all of a sudden we keep

getting that we always feel hungry and we need more

food to snack on and that is Vitamin D’s power.

Women tested, if there is no other reason to take a

supplement, women who are Vitamin D deficient are on

average nearly 17 lbs. - 16.3 lbs. heavier. Ladies, get the

Vitamin D, lose the 16 lbs. It is a clear indicator in studies.

Jayson: Yeah. That same study showed that not only was Vitamin

D deficiency, that 16.3 lbs. difference which is big enough

for anybody, but it also slowed the growth of fat cells. It

reduced the leptin and it also reduced the number of fat

cells.

This is another thing people don’t realize. They go get

liposuction, they suck out all these fat cells. What the

doctors didn’t tell them is that your fat cell really can grow

to any size that it wants. You might not have two million

fat cells anymore but your fat cell can grow to as big as it




wants, so you can gain all that weight back with even

reduced number of cells.

You don’t want a lot of fat cells but when you are Vitamin

D sufficient, you also have less fat cells too. All your fat

cells can grow bigger and obviously the less fat cells you

have, ultimately is better.

Jonathan: Jayson and Mira, I love that we are again raising people’s

consciousness about micro-nutrients and I want to

protect folks, because I can see we are not the only

people. There are food, edible product manufacturers

who are out there who are using micro-nutrients for

nefarious purposes.

You pick up this sugary yogurt-esque thing which is just

garbage and it is like, good source of Vitamin D. Then I am

like, I remember what Jayson and Mira said, if I eat this

yogurt which is a good source of Vitamin D, I am going to

lose 16 lbs., right?

Mira: Yeah. We are not selling that, guys. That is not what we

are saying. We are saying that in our perfect world, we

would say about 2,000 IU of Vitamin D and your yogurt

isn’t going to have that. It doesn’t mean yogurt is a bad

snack. Yogurt is really high in protein and protein and fat

satiate, so we will say yogurt is great for that reason.

We also just on yogurt, if you really want to know, we

don’t want you to get one that is not organic because we

don’t want the synthetic growth hormones which are also

linked to obesity, so we want to make sure that you are

watching out for that and get an organic yogurt.

Jayson: Just on that note, yogurt is actually the number one food

shown to be the number one weight loss food. I think

when Harvard, their study, when eaten –

Mira: Every day.




Jayson: Every day, it made people lose the most weight. Again, if

you are not a dairy person that is fine but yogurt is

coming to the top of the heap when it comes to diet

foods.

Jonathan: Jayson and Mira, how do we protect ourselves from this

let’s call it negative micro-nutrient ad campaigns? There is

a big difference between the various yogurts and it is very

easy for me as Kraft or Unilever, to buy a little bit of

Synthetic X, Vitamin QXJ and just dump into garbage.

The back of the cereal box says an excellent source of all

of these vitamins and minerals but dissolving a vitamin

pill in a can of Coke doesn’t seem to make it healthy. How

do we actually determine if something is a good source of

micro-nutrients?

Mira: It is probably not packaged.

Jonathan: There you go.

Mira: Don’t buy the box, the bag or the bottle. Those are the

good giveaways. The less processed something is, the less

of the micro-nutrients will be ruined in the process.

Jonathan: Got you.

Mira: That is a good giveaway. Adding them in is not the same

thing. First of all, they are not necessarily in the right

ratios. If someone is doing that to basically try to make it

what we call a misinformation in marketing…

Jayson: When they process the food, they are taking out those

micro-nutrients, so they want to fortify it but they are not

fortifying correctly, often times they will say, “A little bit is

good. More is better. Let’s just get it in there, so we can

put it on the box side,” and I don’t know what they call it

but everybody knows the cereal brand where you are

supposed to have 100% of all these vitamins in it and that

works really good if it’s just like a vitamin pill.




Vitamin pills have a really major flaw as well. Fortification

is just that. A lot of people say, “I use supplements.” You

do if you eat rice or cereal, or bread or anything else that

has been fortified because that is what they are doing.

They know that if you are micro-nutrient deficient we are

going to have more of these diseases, so what they have

said is, “Wait a minute. You process so much of it, the

micro-nutrients and their nutrition out of this food you’ve

got to put something back.”

That is not the way you want to get your micro-nutrients.

You want to try to get it from what we call the rich food,

the most natural food. When we say your food first, we

are definitely not saying processed food first. A little

processed food here and there, we understand, people

are busy but you want to get your micro-nutrients from

natural whole foods first.

If you are going to supplement, then know what it is and

how you are supposed to supplement. Vitamins and

minerals cannot just be thrown into one big bag and just

swallowed in a pill. It doesn’t work like that. There is no

food with every single vitamin and mineral in it.

Food has an innate wisdom. There is certain vitamins and

certain minerals in specific foods so that your body can

utilize them and absorb them properly. Why we think

throwing everything into one pill or into one processed

box works, I don’t know, but it is not working and you

definitely can’t count on those micro-nutrients as adding

to your sufficiency level.

Mira: Be careful also with these vitamin waters and stuff like

that people think they are getting. First of all, you are

getting a handful of them that were randomly chosen

because they are going to give you their focus or energy,

purple gives you calm or whatever those things are.




Those types of things, micro-nutrients when they are left

in water can combine and create soluble salts and do

other nasty things inside that bottle, so we are not big

believers in that either.

Jonathan: Jayson and Mira, I know you have so many studies to

share with us and I am sorry but you guys are so

interesting and I am coming up with all these questions

that I can’t resist. Another question, we have talked about

calories again missed the points, so let me get down

more into macros and again into micros, is there a level

below or next to micros, such as like these phyto

chemicals? Is there another class of stuff below the

surface?

For example, I know a wonderful nutritional researcher

who I respect very much who is not a vegan but he

mentions very openly and honestly that there is an entire

class of things we need that are only found in plants. Are

there other things besides micro-nutrients which are way

below the surface but are essential to optimal health?

Jayson: They can still be considered micro-nutrients because we

need in micro quantities.

Mira: You just add an essential micro-nutrient.

Jayson: Whether or not we’ve termed them essential yet, and yet

being the operative word there, there are so many micro-

nutrients that we don’t even know about we are just

discovering in food and that is plant based and animal

based foods.

We are just in our infancy when we are really dealing with

micro-nutrients. Remember, micro-nutrients and vitamins

were only discovered 100 years ago. The first

multivitamin was 70 years ago. There is a good chance

your grandparents saw the birth of this whole idea.




Supplemental science or just micro-nutrient science in

general is new, and absolutely, it wouldn’t be a parallel, it

would just be a part of that whole micro-nutrient concept

and eventually we may label those as essential as well,

and definitely there are more essential micro-nutrients to

be discovered.

Mira: Alpha lipoic acid isn’t classified as essential, however in

studies basically, alpha lipoic acid…

Jayson: It regenerates all the other antioxidants. When an

antioxidant vitamin or mineral goes through its, it works

with a free radical and donates its electron it kind of

becomes useless but alpha lipoic acid comes in and

recharges that antioxidant and it makes so it can work

again.

This is a really important antioxidant.

Mira: The cool thing about that one is it works both in water

and in fat, so it is water soluble and fat soluble, and then

the other cool thing about it is in studies when rats were

given alpha lipoic acid, they just naturally ate less. They

just chose to eat less. One supplement, they just decided

that they were going to eat less and secondary, work out

more which is the weird thing.

They had the little rat running thing that they chose, they

were given the same exact foods to choose from as the

ones that weren’t given alpha lipoic acid and the rats

randomly chose to run around more and to eat less.

Wouldn’t that be cool if you just decided I am just going to

be more energetic and I am also not going to want food

as much? That is how powerful these little things are.

Jonathan: It really makes me so happy because it is a great example

of how our bodies are not broken. We don’t need to feel

these constant cravings for food and if we are eating too

much and exercising too little there is not some moral




failing. That is a symptom of these underlying

dysfunctions and deficiencies, and it is not about just

eating less and exercising more, it is about correcting

those problems so that we just accidentally move the

right amount and eat the right amount. Is that on the

right track?

Jayson: It is absolutely on the right track and I think if we

understood that as scientists, we would start to realize

that these individuals are not lazy or they are not

individuals who are undisciplined. If we start to look at

micro-nutrient deficiency as being that thing that is

causing them to crave the food, these are very smart

individuals. They know that eating 8,000 or 10,000

calories a day is going to make them overweight or obese,

it is going to shut them into this box they don’t want to be

in and they are trying to get around that.

What their body is really doing, they are just more in

tuned with their body telling them you need to eat more

food or you are never going to reach your micro-nutrient

sufficiency level. We need that. That goes back to our

ancestors to be able to be fertile, to be able to reproduce,

to be able to live.

If you are not getting enough of those micro-nutrients,

some people have such a strong signal to go eat more

food that that’s when they start over-eating. Of course,

today in America we buy into that. We create these all you

can eat buffets, we add sugar, we add salt, we add MSG

and we add every single thing that we can possibly think

of to make them addicted to the food, to make it so that

they can’t stop eating them.

Then they are getting two-fold; they are getting the

craving from their mind, that physiological message

saying that you need to eat more or we are really going to

have a problem here, and then you’ve got all these other




chemicals say you are going to eat more because you are

not addicted to this food.

The food manufacturers are using this to their advantage

and guess who is stuck in the middle? We as Americans

who are getting wrong messages every which way, we are

now sad, we are now like I am so undisciplined, I can’t do

it and do I really want to try another diet? I failed four to

five times. I don’t want to go back to work and say I am on

another diet and people are like, “Again? You are just

going to gain the weight back again.”

Mira: It is telling you that, like Jayson said, you need more food

but what it is really telling you is you need more micro-

nutrients from your food, but if you notice with a lot of

these people is they are eating a lot and you see it is junk.

They are eating a lot of junk and so they are starving.

You see them getting bigger and bigger and yet they are

starving and we just want people to understand that

whatever weight you are your body is probably starving

on the inside and needs these things in order to regulate

your hormones, in order to make you understand it but

you can’t even hear it right now because you’ve starved

yourself from these vitamins and minerals.

Jayson: Michael Palin said and I will just do a quote from and give

him a shout-out. In defense of food he writes, “A diet

based on quantity rather than quality has ushered in a

new creature onto the world stage. The human being who

manages to be both overfed and undernourished, two

characteristics seldom found in the body in the long

natural history of our species.”

I couldn’t have said it better, we literally are

undernourished even though we are eating so many

calories and we are walking around obese. If we are going

to change the equation, we have to start with the




universal truth that micro-nutrient sufficiency is the

foundation of optimal health.

If we create a sufficient state, the cravings will go away,

we will eat less food, and we will have more energy. Our

muscles will function better, our metabolism will function

correctly and then we can build a great and healthy

lifestyle on top of that, no matter what kind of dietary

philosophy you follow.

Great, if you want to be a plant based person that is

great. If you want to be a paleo, that is great too but we

all have a universal truth. We need to be sufficient in our

essential micro-nutrients. If we do that and then we build

a foundation that is really going to stand the test of time.

Mira: In our studies which we go over a lot in the book, we

actually go through each one of these dietary

philosophies and we show the likelihood of them being

deficient in very specific micro-nutrients.

There wasn’t one that did better than any other. The

vegans have specific micro-nutrients wrong with them,

the low carb did, the paleo did and the primal did, and all

across the board everyone was deficient when following

these types of diets.

It really is one of those things that just because you think

you are eating great it doesn’t mean that we are not

talking to you.

Jonathan: Jayson and Mira, this is literally amazing and I want to give

our listeners the vast tool set that you have provided,

because I think we have opened everyone’s eyes in this

time together and gotten them excited.

We have already mentioned your most recent book here,

Naked Calories.

Mira: Woo hoo!




Jonathan: What other resources and as you mentioned, it is always

food first. We are just beginning to understand this arena,

but we are smart people. Science has been busy over the

past 60 years, what scientific advancements can we take

advantage of to help address this problem?

Mira: First of all, we are food first, so Rich Food, Poor Food. This

is a book that we wrote because everyone asked us what

foods have a lot of vitamins and minerals. We highly

suggest if you have trouble going grocery shopping, if you

are wondering what foods to eat that is this book.

Jayson: Yeah, and as far as advancements go, supplemental

science is really coming forward. Our three steps just

quickly are food first, switch to rich, eat rich foods that

are rich in micro-nutrients. Two, really identify your

lifestyle habits that may be depleting micro-nutrients. We

are not saying to change all of them but be aware so that

you can understand what your likelihood of being

sufficient or deficient is.

We have a sufficiency quiz that people can take for free to

on the website, so they can see where they may be falling

on the spectrum of sufficiency-deficiency, and it is free.

The third is to supplement properly and really and truly, I

kind of talked a little bit about it earlier but supplements

as they are manufactured today on the overall,

specifically multivitamins is really the same way that the

first multivitamins were formulated, they are just thrown

together.

Real quickly, we created something called the ABCs of

optimal supplementation guidelines and you can apply

this to any supplement you are buying, any vitamin. First

and foremost A, absorption. If it doesn’t disintegrate, you

can’t absorb it.




51% of the vitamins that were tested on store shelves

didn’t disintegrate when Consumer Reports did their

study.

Mira: Therefore, a waste of money.

Jayson: Waste of money. You may want to be looking for

something in a powdered form so you don’t have to

worry about disintegration.

Two, beneficial quantities. We talked about earlier, your

multivitamin probably doesn’t have 600 milligrams of

calcium and 400 milligrams of magnesium like it should

have. 600 instead of 1,000 milligrams of calcium because

your body can only absorb 600 at a time. We call that

beneficial quantities.

If you are supplementing, make sure you are getting the

amount of supplement that you need. We are not making

dose believers but we believe in 100% RDI.

Mira: On top of your food.

Jayson: When you add that to overall good food diet, then you

start to reach that optimal zone. We don’t want too much,

so beneficial quantities. That is the B.

C. This is the game changer, competition. Micro-nutrient

competition. Science has known now for years that

certain vitamins and minerals compete for receptor sites

inside the gastrointestinal track. Multivitamin

manufacturers haven’t really done much about that, have

they?

They said, “Here is all this. Throw it together,” and a lot of

people will say that what you are really getting there is

expensive urine and we would be on that side as well.

One of the things we did and we are very proud of, and

we actually used the scientific research to get a patent for

is we looked at what science knew already about what




specific micro-nutrients competed with each other for

absorption and utilization and we mapped those out, and

then we separated them into two unique formulas in our

product Nutrience, which is our multivitamin.

We manufactured the multivitamin because there wasn’t

anything else out there that we could take or we could

recommend that was doing this kind of science in the US.

Mira: I think it was 85% of all the vitamins and minerals on

average when competed.

Jayson: 85%.

Mira: 85%. When started looking at that, which we did because I

had my osteoporosis and we were trying to reverse it for

me. We were like, I can’t take the multivitamins, that is not

going to reverse my bone disease, so we started to look

at that and mapped out all the competitions and

Nutrience is what we came up with.

Jayson: Right, and then lastly synergy. It is very important that

you know what micro-nutrients are synergistic. People

might have heard if you are taking calcium, you want to

take Vitamin D with it to help the absorption or if you are

taking calcium, you want to make sure you’ve got Vitamin

K2 to get that calcium out of the arteries and into the

bones.

Your multivitamin is not going to have K2 most likely and

if it does, it probably won’t have MK4 and MK7, so you

want to make sure that the person who is manufacturing

your multivitamin knows a thing or two about micro-

nutrients and so this is some of the stuff that we’ve put

into the formulation.

We are very proud of it and if people are looking for a

new multivitamin you may at least want to check it out.

Jonathan: Absolutely. Jayson and Mira, I will give it a shout-out. I

have taken multivitamins my entire life and I noticed that




they all gave me fluorescent yellow urine and I never

really noticed the difference, and my wife and I have been

enjoying Nutrience here for months now. You don’t get

the fluorescent urine, definite impact on energy. I have

been a big fan and let’s leave our listeners because you

know I am personally a fan of your guys’ work. I love

micro-nutrients. I think it is great.

I think you guys were innovators in this arena, so let’s give

very clear three steps. Step one is go to

caltonnutrition.com.

Mira: C-A-L-T-O-N because everybody gets that wrong.

Jonathan: caltonnutrition.com. We’ve got the free quiz up there.

What would step two be?

Jayson: Step two is for you to take that quiz. Go to the site, take

the quiz.

Mira: Read the books.

Jayson: Read the books, follow those three steps. Those three

steps to micro-nutrient sufficiency is so simple to do, we

outline it in the book. The book is full color. Can you see

that Jonathan on your side? Can you hold that up?

It is full color, it is easy to read. It is not scientific. On the

inside is high gloss pages so don’t be afraid of all the

science. Yeah, it is fun and it is easy.

Mira: Then to supplement, because what you are going to find

out when you read it is that chances are in step one and

two, those two things and the quiz in the book, what you

are going to find out is you are probably one of the 99%

in all honesty. Chances are that you are going to fall in

that range and then you can be a better you simply by

supplementing.

Jonathan: I love it.



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Jayson: If people do want to try Nutrience, we would be happy to

extend a $10 coupon to them from you Jonathan, from

Smart Science of Slim, so you can maybe put that coupon

code up for people as well, if they want to try it.

Jonathan: Absolutely, and it is just so empowering. Guys, I really

appreciate you bringing this back to the science. This isn’t

even debatable. These are just truths that are being

ignored.

Jayson and Mira Calton, thank you so much for joining us

today. This is absolutely transformational information.

Mira: Thank you so much for putting this all together. We

appreciate it so much.

Jayson: Our pleasure. Thanks, Jonathan.

Jonathan: Thank you. Listeners, I hope you enjoyed this wonderful

information as much as I did and please remember, this

week and every week after, eat smarter, exercise smarter

and live better. Chat with you soon.



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