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AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Risk Assessment Methods

NFPA 551 FIRST DRAFT MEETING Friday, May 2, 2014 at 11:00 am

Teleconference/Web Meeting

1. Call meeting to order at 11:00 AM by Chair Brian Meacham, Friday, May 2, 2014.

2. Self-introduction of members and guests. See Page 2

3. Approval of 3 August 2011 meeting minutes. See Page 5

4. First draft presentation and review of new codes and standards development

process. See Page 7

5. Preparation of NFPA 551 First Draft. i) Public Inputs –(0) received ii) Second Revisions and/or Committee Inputs

6. Other business.

7. Scheduling of next meeting.

8. Adjournment.

NFPA 551 FIR-AAA FIRST DRAFT MEETING AGENDA - of 12

Address List No PhoneFire Risk Assessment Methods FIR-AAA

Kristin Bigda04/16/2014

FIR-AAA

Brian J. Meacham

ChairWorcester Polytechnic Institute100 Institute RoadWorcester, MA 01609

SE 7/20/2000FIR-AAA

David G. Bueche

PrincipalHoover Treated Wood Products13768 West Asbury CircleLakewood, CO 80228

M 8/9/2011

FIR-AAA

Joseph A. Cappuccio

PrincipalThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.12150 Monument Drive, Suite 815Fairfax, VA 22033Alternate: Michael J. Wojcik

SE 4/28/2000FIR-AAA

Shane M. Clary

PrincipalBay Alarm Company60 Berry DrivePacheco, CA 94553Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Alternate: Rodger Reiswig

M 10/20/2010

FIR-AAA

Lisa M. Cockerill

PrincipalRegion of Peel10 Peel Centre Drive, Suite B, 6th FloorBrampton, ON L6T 4B9 Canada

U 07/29/2013FIR-AAA

D. Allan Coutts

PrincipalURS Safety Management Solutions LLCPO Box 5388Aiken, SC 29804-5388

U 4/28/2000

FIR-AAA

William W. Doerr

PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: Kumar R. Bhimavarapu

I 10/4/2001FIR-AAA

Kenneth W. Dungan

PrincipalPerformance Design Technologies1310 Centerpoint BoulevardKnoxville, TN 37932

SE 4/28/2000

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Michael A. Falzarano

PrincipalTyco Electronics1050 Westlakes DriveBerwyn, PA 19312-2423

M 8/5/2009FIR-AAA

Simon Foo

PrincipalPublic Works & Government Services Canada (PWGSC)Technology DirectoratePlace du portage 3, Floor 8B111 Laurier StreetHull, QC K1A 0S5 Canada

U 7/20/2000

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Ellsworth Fortman

PrincipalLos Angeles City Fire Department21616 Applegate CtSaugus, CA 91390

E 10/29/2012FIR-AAA

Tonya L. Hoover

PrincipalCAL FIRE, Office of the State Fire Marshal1131 “S” StreetPO Box 944246Sacramento, CA 94244-2460

E 11/2/2006

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Morgan J. Hurley

PrincipalSociety of Fire Protection Engineers7315 Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 620EBethesda, MD 20814

U 4/28/2000FIR-AAA

Seong-Wook Jeong

PrincipalHanwha E&CHanwha Building, 6th FloorSeoul, Janggyodong Junggu, 100-797 South Korea

SE 08/09/2012

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FIR-AAA

Frank L. Keisler, Jr.

PrincipalCNA Insurance Company425 Arborshade TraceDuluth, GA 30097-8069Alternate: Michael Mansfield

I 8/5/2009FIR-AAA

Roz Nielsen

PrincipalBC Hydro6911 Southpoint DriveBurnaby, BC V3N 4X8 Canada

U 10/27/2009

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Dale Peleski

PrincipalSUPERVALU, Inc.PO Box 990Minneapolis, MN 55440Alternate: Stephen Love

U 1/10/2008FIR-AAA

Larry D. Pigg

PrincipalKnox Company1601 West Deer Valley RoadPhoenix, AZ 85027

M 11/2/2006

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James T. Porter

PrincipalSafety and Fire Consultant1475 North Latson RoadHowell, MI 48843Ford Motor Company

M 3/15/2007FIR-AAA

Jemmel A. Pursoo

PrincipalScience Applications International Corporation1710 SAIC Drive, Mail Stop 3-4-2McLean, VA 22102

SE 10/20/2010

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Michael E. G. Schmidt

Principal2 Redstone DriveWeatogue, CT 06089

SE 7/20/2000FIR-AAA

Nathan O. Siu

PrincipalUS Nuclear Regulatory CommissionOffice of Nuclear Regulatory ResearchMS CSB 4A07MWashington, DC 20555-0001US Nuclear Regulatory Commission

E 4/28/2000

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Wayne R. Sohlman

PrincipalNuclear Electric Insurance Ltd.1201 Market Street, Suite 1100Wilmington, DE 19801

I 7/23/2008FIR-AAA

Karl K. Thompson

PrincipalFlorida Division of State Fire MarshalBureau of Fire Prevention1102 Corby Court EastTallahassee, FL 32317

E 7/26/2007

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Victoria B. Valentine

PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563-2164National Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: Robert Upson

M 10/6/2000FIR-AAA

John M. Watts, Jr.

PrincipalFire Safety InstitutePO Box 674Middlebury, VT 05753

SE 4/28/2000

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David T. L. Yung

PrincipalYung and Associates880 Grandview Way, Suite 807Toronto, ON M2N 7B2 Canada

SE 4/28/2000




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Kumar R. Bhimavarapu

AlternateFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: William W. Doerr

I 4/17/2002FIR-AAA

Stephen Love

AlternateSupervalu, Inc.19011 Lake Drive EastChanhassen, MN 55317Principal: Dale Peleski

U 10/29/2012

FIR-AAA

Michael Mansfield

AlternateCNA Insurance Company8530 Milando Drive, Apt. 2128Orlando, FL 32810Principal: Frank L. Keisler, Jr.

I 10/29/2012FIR-AAA

Rodger Reiswig

AlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell3640 Haddington CourtApopka, FL 32712Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Shane M. Clary

M 10/20/2010

FIR-AAA

Robert Upson

AlternateNational Fire Sprinkler Association40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563-2164National Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Victoria B. Valentine

M 10/28/2008FIR-AAA

Michael J. Wojcik

AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.668 North 44th Street, Suite 204WPhoenix, AZ 85008Principal: Joseph A. Cappuccio

SE 8/9/2011

FIR-AAA

Luca Fiorentini

Nonvoting MemberTecsa S.p.A.Via Figino 101Pero, Milan, 20016 Italy

SE 3/4/2008FIR-AAA

Kristin Bigda

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

6/29/2007


FIR-AAA 8-2011 ROP Meeting Minutes / Page 1 of 2

NFPA 551 ROP Minutes

NFPA Technical Committee on

Fire Risk Assessment Methods

(FIR-AAA)

August 3, 2011

Teleconference/Web Meeting

1. Call to Order. Meeting was called to order at 2:00 PM on Wednesday, August 3,

2011 by Chair Douglas Crawford.

2. Attendance. The following committee members were in attendance:

Douglas Crawford, Chair Office of the Fire Marshal of Ontario, Canada

Shane Clary, Principal Bay Alarm Company

Rep. Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.

Kristin Collette, Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association

Joseph Cappuccio,

Voting Alternate to RJA Rep.

The RJA Group, Inc.

D. Allan Coutts, Principal URS Safety Management Solutions LLC

William Doerr, Principal FM Global

Simon Foo, Principal Public Works & Government Services Canada

(PWGSC)

Tonya Hoover, Principal CAL Fire, Office of the State Fire Marshal

Frank Keisler, Jr., Principal CNA Insurance Company

Brian Meacham, Principal Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Roz Nielsen, Principal BC Hydro

Larry Pigg, Principal Knox Company

Wayne Sohlman, Principal Nuclear Electric Insurance Ltd.

Karl Thompson, Principal Florida State Fire Marshal’s Office

Robert Upson, Principal Southington Fire Department

Victoria Valentine,

Alternate to R. Fleming

National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.

John Watts, Jr., Principal Fire Safety Institute

David Yung, Principal Yung and Associates


FIR-AAA 8-2011 ROP Meeting Minutes / Page 2 of 2

The following committee members were not in attendance:

Kenneth Dungan, Principal Risk Technologies, LLC

Michael Falzarano, Principal Tyco Electronics

Morgan Hurley, Principal Society of Fire Protection Engineers

Muhammad Mahtab, Principal Latitude Marine Consultants

James Naylor, Principal Washington Savannah River Company

Dale Peleski, Principal SUPERVALU Inc.

James Porter, Principal Michigan State University

Rep. Ford Motor Company

Jemmel Pursoo, Principal Science Applications International Corp.

Michael Schmidt, Principal

Nathan Siu, Principal US Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Rep. US Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Armin Wolski, Principal Arup Fire

3. Approval of Minutes. The 24 June 2010 meeting minutes were approved with

no modifications.

4. Review Fall 2012 revision cycle schedule. Ms. Collette reviewed the Fall 2012

revision cycle as part of her staff report.

5. Staff Report. Ms. Collette presented to the committee information on the Fall

2012 revision cycle, the Technical Committee meeting process, the Fire

Protection Research Foundation Code Fund Projects, the committee’s Document

Information Pages, and a brief update on the new code development process. It

should be noted that more news and training on the new process will be

forthcoming. It should be noted that all committee documents are now located at

the following pages:

www.nfpa.org/550

www.nfpa.org/551

6. Preparation of NFPA 551 ROP. All public proposals were addressed and

committee proposals were generated. See the ROP letter ballot package.

7. Other business. Ms. Collette will assist Committee Member Jack Watts to draft

language to be included in the next edition of the NFPA Committee Officer’s

Guide. This language will relate to the FIR-AAA committee’s role in providing

guidance to other Technical Committees with regards to Risk Assessment.

8. Scheduling of next meeting. The ROC meeting (if necessary) will be held in

March or April of 2012.

9. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned by Chair Crawford at 3:00 PM on

August 3, 2011.


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NFPA First Draft Meeting

Welcome!NFPA 551

FIR-AAA

May2,2014Teleconference/WebMeeting

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At this and all NFPA committee meetings we are concerned with your safety. If the fire alarm sounds, please proceed to an exit.

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Members, please verify/update your contact information

Use of tape recorders or other means capable of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of this or any NFPA meeting is not permitted

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GuestsAll guests are required to sign in and

identify their affiliations.

Participation is limited to TC members or those individuals who have previously requested time to address the committee. Other participation is granted at the discretion of the Chair.

Guest chairs are located around the room as a courtesy.

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Members categorized in ANY interest category who have been retained to represent the interests of ANOTHER interest category (with respect to a specific issue or issues that are to be addressed by a TC/CC) shall declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting on any Public Input, Comment, or other matter relating to those issues throughout the process.

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General Procedures

Follow Robert’s Rules of Order.

Discussion requires a motion.

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Motions for Ending Debate Previous Question or “Call the Question”Not in order when another has the floor

Requires a second

This motion is not debatable and DOES NOT automatically stop debate

A 2/3 affirmative vote will immediately close debate and return to the original motion on the floor. Less then 2/3 will allow debate to continue.

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Committee member actions:

Member addresses the chair. Receives recognition from the chair. Introduces the motion. Another member seconds the

motion.

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Committee chair actions:

States the motion.Calls for discussion.Ensures all issues have been heard.Takes the vote.Announces the result of the vote.

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Enforcers, 4: 15% Insurance, 3: 11% Installer/Maintainer, 0: 0%Labor, 0: 0%Manufacturers, 6: 22%Research & Testing, 0: 0%Special Experts, 8: 30%Users, 6: 22%Consumer, 0: 0%TOTAL: 27 Members

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NFPA First Draft MeetingsTimeline

Public Input Stage (First Draft): First Draft Meeting: TODAY Posting of First Draft for Balloting Date: 8/1/2014 Posting of First Draft Report for Public Comment: 9/5/2014

Comment Stage (Second Draft): Public Comment Closing Date:10/10/2014 (paper) 11/14/2014

(Online) Second Draft Meeting Period: 11/14/2014 – 5/1/2015 Posting of Second Draft for Balloting Date: 6/12/2015 Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM review: 7/17/2015

Tech Session Preparation: NITMAM Closing Date: 8/21/2015 NITMAM /CAM Posting Date: 10/16/2015 NFPA Annual Meeting: 6/6-9/2016

Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Consent Documents: _2016____edition date Issuance of Documents with CAM: _2017____edition date

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New Process – Why?

◦ Response to NFPA community.

◦ Technology/web-based functions and integration.

◦ Simplified process.

◦ Timely and accurate display of codes and standards at all phases of the process.◦ Timely issuance of consent documents.

September2013


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NFPA First Draft MeetingNew Process – What’s New?

Changes in Terms:

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New Term Old Term

Input Stage ROP Stage

Public Input Proposal

First Draft Meeting ROP Meeting

Committee Input“Trial Balloon”

(or later, FR that fails ballot)

Committee Statement (CS) Committee Statement

First Revision (FR)Committee Proposal or Accepted

Public Proposal

First Draft Report ROP

First Draft ROP Draft

NFPA First Draft MeetingNew Process – What’s New?

Changes in Terms:

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New Term Old Term

Comment Stage ROC Stage

Public Comment Public Comment

Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting

Committee CommentComment that Failed Ballot

(Second Revision that failed ballot)

Second RevisionCommittee Comment or Accepted

Public Comment

Second Draft Report ROC

Second Draft ROC Draft


NEW Committee Actions and Motions:

Resolve Public InputCreate a First RevisionCreate a Committee Input (Trial

Balloon)

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• Resolve a Public Input (PI)Committee develops a Committee

Statement (CS) to respond (resolve) a Public Input.

Committee must clearly indicate reasons for not accepting the recommendation in CS and/or point to a relevant First Revision

PI does not get balloted

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• Create a First Revision (FR)Committee wants to make a change to a

current section or add new text.

Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change. (do not refer to PI as the reason)

Ensure any associated PIs get a committee response, often simply referring to the relevant FR.

Each FR gets balloted

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• Create a Committee Input (Trial Balloon)Committee wants to receive Public

Comment on a topic, but not ready to incorporate it into the draft

Need to have a Committee Statement

Does not get balloted

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Committee Statements (Substantiation):

All Public Input must have a Committee StatementMust include a valid technical

reasonNo vague references to “intent”Explain how the submitter’s

substantiation is inadequate

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Committee Statements (Substantiation):

Should reference the First Revision if it addresses the intent of the Submitter’s Public Input

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NFPA First Draft MeetingBalloting

Initial ballot Circulation of negatives and

comments First Revision that fails letter ballot

becomes Committee Input (CI) – just like the trial balloon version of CI – so as to solicit Public Comment

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Formal voting Voting during meeting is used to

establish a sense of agreement (simple majority)Secured by letter ballot (2/3

agreement)Only the results of the formal ballot

determine the official position of the committee on the First Draft

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Ballots are on the First Revisions (FR) ONLYPublic Input and Committee Input not ballotedReference materials are available: First Draft, PI, CI, CS, etc

Ballot form allows you to vote: Affirmative on all FRAffirmative on all FR with exceptions specifically

noted Ballot form provides a column for affirmative

with commentNote: This box only needs to be checked if there is

an accompanying comment. Reject or abstain requires a reason.

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Electronic Balloting

• Ballots will be an online format• Alternates are strongly encouraged

to return ballots• Ballot session will time out after 90

minutes• Use “submit” to save your work

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Click link on the ballot email received

Sign in with NFPA.org Committee Login and Password

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SelecteitherAffirmativeonAllorAffirmativewithException(s)

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Use “See FR - #” link to review all First Revisions

Use “Edit election” to change individual votes or to modify vote after submitting ballot.

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ChoosingAFFIRMATIVEONALL


Make selection: Affirmative with Comment, Negative, or Abstain

No selection made-defaults to affirmative Must include comment on each vote.

ChoosingAFFIRMATIVEWITHEXCEPTION(S)


To complete ballot click ‘Participant Consent’ checkbox and ‘Submit’

Return and edit any votes before ballot due date.

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TCStruggleswithanIssue

• TCneedsdataonanewtechnologyoremergingissue

• Twoopposingviewsonanissuewithnorealdata

• Datapresentedisnottrustedbycommittee

CodeFundLendsaHand

• TCrepand/orstaffliaisonsubmitsaCodeFundRequest

• RequestsarereviewedbyaPanelandchosenbasedonneed/feasibility

ResearchProjectCarriedOut

• FundingforprojectisprovidedbytheCodeFundand/orindustrysponsors

• ProjectiscompletedanddataisavailabletoTC

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www.nfpa.org/codefund


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Legal

Antitrust: the single most important provision- Federal law prohibits contracts, combinations, or conspiracies which unreasonably restrain trade or commerce. Section 1 of the Sherman Act

Patent: Disclosures of essential patent claims should be made by the patent holder, but others may also notify NFPA if they believe that a proposed or existing NFPA standard includes an essential patent claim.

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Legal

Activities Disapproved by the CourtsPacking meetings

Hiding commercial interest throwing the committees out of balance

No final decision-making authority to unbalanced Task Groups; include all interested parties.

Hiding scientific or technical information from committees

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Document Information Pages

DocumentInformation

• Documentscope• Current/PreviousEditioninformation

• IssuedTIAs,FIs andErrata

• Archivedrevisioninformation

• StandardCouncilDecisions

• ArticlesandReports• Readonlydocument

NextEdition

• SubmitPublicInput/CommentsviaElectronicSubmissionSystem.

• MeetingsandBallots• ROP/ROCorFirstDraftReportandSecondDraftReport

• NITMAM andStandardCouncilDecisions

• PrivateTCinfo• Ballotcirculations,informationalballotsandothercommitteeinfo

TechnicalCommittee

• Committeename,responsibilityandscope

• Staffliaison• Committeelist• Privatecommitteecontactinformation

• CurrentcommitteedocumentsinPDFformat

• Committeesseekingmembersandcommitteeonlineapplication

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Questions?

NFPA thanks you for all of your hard work and dedication as Committee Members!

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