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“The Bible is a product of man,
my dear. Not of God. The Bible
did not fall magically from the
clouds. Man created it as a
historical record of tumultuous
times, and it has evolved through
countless translations, additions,
and revisions. History has never
had a definitive version of the
book.” (p. 231)
Da Vinci Code Attacks on the Bible
2.“The Gospels were recorded well after the
lifetime of the eyewitnesses and
have been embellished over
time”
DVC On Constantine & NT“Because Constantine upgraded Jesus’ status
almost four centuries after Jesus’ death,
thousands of documents already existed
chronicling His life as a mortal man. To
rewrite the history books, Constantine knew
he would need a bold stroke … [He]
commissioned and financed a new Bible,
which omitted those gospels which spoke of
Christ’s human traits and embellished those
gospels which made Him godlike. The
earlier gospels were outlawed, gathered up,
and burned.” (234)
Jesus: A
Revolutionary
Biography
John Dominic Crossan
“…if you read them horizontally and
comparatively, focusing on this or that
unit and comparing it across two, three,
or four versions, it is disagreement
rather than agreement that strikes you
most forcibly. And those divergences
stem not from the random vagaries of
memory and recall but from the
coherent and consistent theologies of
the individual texts.”
“Historical Jesus”
Embellishment Theory
“Jesus”
• 30-70 AD
• Saw Jesus
as a wise
teacher
• No need for
a messiah
• No Cross, No
Resurrection,
No “Gospel”
“Christ”
• 70-100 AD
• Added narrative myths
upon Q sayings
• Proclamation of the
death and resurrection
of Jesus
“JESUS SEMINAR THEORY TIMELINE”
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
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30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Dating Gospels Circular Logic
Biblical Gospels
Assert
Divinity
of Christ
Biblical Gospels
Are Late and
Untrustworthy
Original Jesus
Was a Man.
Church made him
Son of God, Later
“THE SANDWICH”
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
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30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Establishing the First Dates
4 - 1 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
50
A.D.
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30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Conversion of Saul
30-50 AD
Period of Oral Tradition
• Jewish culture stressed memorizations of the law.
– Deuteronomy 6:4-9
– In a culture where this was practiced, their memorization skills were far advanced from ours today.
– New Testament scholar Darrell Bock states that the Jewish culture was “a culture of memory.”
• the church preserved the teachings of Christ in the forms of hymns which were easy to memorize.
– E.g., Paul’s summary of the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15
Brodmer Papyrus II:
Dated A. D. 150-200.Contains first 14 chapters of John and
portions of last 7 chapters.
Brodmer papyrus:
dated
around 200 A.D.
Magdalen Papyrus
Dated 150 AD
• Magdalen papyrus -
fragment (dated
around 150 A.D.,
but a more recent
dating place it
possible around 50
A.D. !)
John Rylands MSS:
Dated A. D. 114-130.Oldest
fragment of
NT, contains
only five
verses (Jn.
18:31-33, 37-
38) but reads
exactly the
same as the
Greek text
today!
The Rylands
Fragment
John 18:31-33, 37
AD 130
Dead Sea Scrolls’ Mark Fragments
Pre-70 AD
Qumran cave 7 (7q5 is
Mark 6:52-53) –
(dated around 50 A.D. !)
Last Dates: Manuscripts
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
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A.D.
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98 - 130 A.D.
John Ryland
fragment
125 - 150 A.D.
Chester Beatty
fragment
30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Dead Sea Scrolls
Mark
John
Last Dates: Church Fathers
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
50
A.D.
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120 A.D.
Polycarp
110 - 115 A.D.
Ignatius
95 A.D.
Clement
30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Dead Sea Scrolls
Mark
Establishing the Last Dates
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
50
A.D.
15050 60 70 80 90 1000 120 140
98 - 130 A.D.
John Ryland
fragment
125 - 150 A.D.
Chester Beatty
fragment
120 A.D.
Polycarp
110 - 115 A.D.
Ignatius
95 A.D.
Clement
30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Dead Sea Scrolls
Mark
John
“WHOLE NT INSIDE
THE SANDWICH”
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
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A.D.
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30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
“Two significant facts
intervene between the
lifetime of Jesus and the
composition of the
gospels: first, Rome had
destroyed Jerusalem; and,
second, the majority of
Jews had declined to
perceive Jesus as a
messiah.”
Paula Fredriksen, From
Jesus to Christ
Dating Gospels Circular Logic
Gospels Prophecy
Destruction of Temple
Gospels
Are Written
After Destruction of Temple
Prophecies are
impossible
Early vs. Late Dates
4 - 1 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
50
A.D.
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30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Destruction of Temple
Deaths of Paul & Peter
The Spoils of Jerusalem
Triumph of Titus
Triumphal Arch of Titus
Celebrating Destruction of
Jerusalem, 70 AD.
Importance of
Temple Destruction, 70 AD• The gospels prophesy the
destruction of the Temple
(occurred in AD 70) but
never mention its
fulfillment.
– Matthew 24, Mark 13,
Luke 21. John 2
• Only Gospels Do mention Destruction of Temple!
– Acts
– Hebrews
– Revelation
Matthew
and Luke
70 AD
Destroy
Temple
Mark
The Temple in
Matthew
• Matthew 26:61
and said, "This man
stated, 'I am able to
destroy the temple of
God and to rebuild it in
three days.'"
• Matthew 27:40
and saying, “You who
are going to destroy
the temple and rebuild
it in three days, save
Yourself! If You are the
Son of God, come
down from the cross."Emp. Titus Destroyed Temple in 70 AD
The Temple in Mark
• Mark 13:1-2
• As He was going out of the temple, one of
His disciples said to Him, "Teacher, behold
what wonderful stones and what wonderful
buildings!" And Jesus said to him, "Do you
see these great buildings? Not one stone
will be left upon another which will not be
torn down."
The Temple
in Luke
• Luke 21:5-6And while some were talking about the temple, that it was adorned with beautiful stones and votive gifts, He said, "As for these things which you are looking at, the days will come in which there will not be left one stone upon another which will not be torn down."
The Temple in John• John 2:19-21
Jesus answered
them, “Destroy this
temple, and in three
days I will raise it up."
The Jews then said,
"It took forty-six years
to build this temple,
and will You raise it
up in three days?"
But He was speaking
of the temple of His
body.
The Temple in 1 Corinthians
• 1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Do you not know that
you are a temple of
God and that the Spirit
of God dwells in you?
If any man destroys
the temple of God,
God will destroy him,
for the temple of God
is holy, and that is
what you are.
Hebrews and the Temple• Hebrews 9:25
nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own.
Hebrews 10:1For the Law, since it has only] a shadow of [the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near.
Hebrews 10:3But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year.
Importance of Silence
• Acts (Luke) Mentions Death of James
• Luke/Acts never mentions the death of Paul and Peter or James the Just
• Peter Mentions Paul’s letters but Never Mentions Death of Paul
• Paul Never Mentions Death of Peter
• No NT Document mentions death of James, Brother of Jesus
• John mentions Death of Peter!
• 44, James martyred
• 61-68, Paul Martyred
• 62-68, Peter Martyred
• 61 Death of James, Brother of Jesus
THE IMPORTANCE OF SILENCE
B.C.
50
A.D.
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Death Of
Apostle James Death of Paul, Peter and
James, Jesus’ Brother
Luke/Acts John
Paul’s Letters
Peter’s Letters
Establishing the Gospels’ Dates
4 B.C.
Jesus born
B.C.
50
A.D.
15050 60 70 80 90 1000 120 140
30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Dead
Sea
Scrolls
Oral Tradition Period
30-50 AD
Last John Date
100 AD
Last Luke
Date
Last
Mark
Date
Matthew
WHERE DOES Q FIT?
Review: Dating The NT
Matthew
Luke
John
The Gospels
Mark
B.C.
50
A.D.
15050 60 70 80 90 1000 120 140
48-50 A.D.
Galatians
50 A.D.
1&2 Thessalonians
54-56 A.D.
1&2 Corinthians
57 A.D.
Romans60 A.D.
Philippians, Colossians, Ephesians, Philemon
63-65 A.D.
1&2 Timothy, Titus
60-68 A.D.
1 Peter
85-95 A.D.
1 John
65-80 A.D.
Jude
40-60 A.D.
James
30 A.D.
Jesus
crucified
Comparing First and 20th Centuries
Decade First Century 20th Century
00-09 Augustus, JC Childhood Queen Victoria, Ted
Roosevelt
10-19 Augustus, JC Teenager Woodrow Wilson, WW I
20-29 Tiberius, JC in 20s-
>Cross/Resurrection
Roaring 20s, Stock
Crash
30-39 Tiberius, Caligula, Acts 1-12 FDR, Great Depression
40-49 Claudius, Paul’s Missions, Mark WW II
50-59 Claudius, Nero, Paul’s Letters. Eishenauer, “Happy
Days”
60-69 Nero, Paul & Peter Martyred, Luke/Acts Kennedy, LBJ, Vietnam
70-79 Vespasian, Temple Destroyed, Titus Nixon, Ford, Carter
80-89 Domitian John, John’s Letters Reagan, Bush (1)
90-99 Domitian, Nerva Revelation Bush (1) Clinton