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A Good Day Is A Payday: How to get a job and keep your government benefits Mike Hansen, Director Rick Scott, Governor 1

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Page 1: A Good Day Is A Payday: How to get a job and keep your government benefits Mike Hansen, Director Rick Scott, Governor 1

A Good Day Is A Payday:

How to get a job and keep your government benefits

• Mike Hansen, Director

• Rick Scott, Governor

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Presenter

Nancy Boutot

Medicaid Infrastructure Grant

Employment Coordinator

[email protected]

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Acronyms

• SSA – Social Security Administration

• SSI – Supplemental Security Income

• SSDI – Social Security Disability Insurance

• FBR – Federal Benefit Rate (2011 = $674.00)

• SGA – Substantial Gainful Activity

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OverviewOverview

SSDI (Title II)

(Soc. Sec. Disability Insurance)

FICA

Medicare

(federal rules)

SSDI (Title II)

(Soc. Sec. Disability Insurance)

FICA

Medicare

(federal rules)

SSI(Title XVI)

(Supplemental Security Income)

General Revenue

Medicaid (state rules)

SSI(Title XVI)

(Supplemental Security Income)

General Revenue

Medicaid (state rules)

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Work Incentives Comparison Chart

Social Security Disability Insurance Supplemental Security Income

Trial Work Period Continuation of SSI

Extended Period of Eligibility Student Earned Income Exclusion

Continuation of Medicare Blind Work Expense

Special Rules for the Blind (SGA) 1619 (a)

1619 (b)

Property Essential For Self Support

Plan for Achieving Self-Support

WORK INCENTIVES FOR BOTH SSDI AND SSI

Impairment Related Work Expense (IRWE)

Subsidies

Section 301 (Not Ticket Rules)

Expedited Reinstatement

Ticket to Work

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SSI Work Incentives (condensed)

• Student Earned Income Exclusion

• 1619 (b)

• Impairment Related Work Expense (IRWE)

• Plan for Achieving Self-Support

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Student Earned Income Exclusion

• Must be under the age of 22 and regularly attending school.

• Can exclude earned income up to a certain amount (changes annually)

• Amount earned looked at monthly, with an yearly maximum

• This exclusion applies before any other exclusion

• Can carry the balance over to the next month

2011

$1,640.00 per month, $6,600.00 per year

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Student Earned Income Exclusion

• Report the following to the SSI claims representative:

Proof of regularly attending school at least one month during the current calendar quarter or expectation to attend school at least one month in the next quarter; and

Pay stubs showing the amount of earned income while considered a student and under the age of 22.

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Student Earned Income Exclusion

Calculation without SEIE

• Let’s say Herman receives $674.00 in SSI

• He begins working and earning $525.00 gross per month

• What will his new SSI check be?

$525 gross wages

-$ 65 exclusion

-$ 20 exclusion

$440

$440 / 2 = $220 Countable Income

$674.00 - $220 = $454.00 SSI

$454.00 + 525.00 - $979.00

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Student Earned Income Exclusion

Calculation with SEIE

• Let’s say Herman receives $674.00 in SSI

• He begins working and earning $525.00 gross per month

• What will his new SSI check be?

$525 gross wages

-$525 Student Earned Income Exclusion

= 0.00 Countable Income

$674 FBR* - $0.00 = $674.00 SSI

$674.00 + 525.00 = $1,199.00! That’s $14, 388.00 a year!

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Student Earned Income Exclusion

SEIE… 3 month Summer Job!

• Let’s say Herman receives $674.00 in SSI

• He gets a summer job earning $1,640.00 gross per month

• What will his new SSI check be?

$1,640.00 gross wages

-$1,640.00 Student Earned Income Exclusion

= 0.00 Countable Income

$674 FBR* - $0.00 = $674.00 SSI

$674.00 + $1,640.00 = $2,314.00! That’s $6,942 in 3 months!

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1619 (b)

How much can people on SSI earn annually in Gross Wages before they are in jeopardy of

losing Medicaid?

28,753.00!!Florida… 2011

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Due to out of pocket expenses that support a disability to allow a person to earn income, even

if those items or services are also needed for non-work activities.

ExamplesTransportation

MedicationsMedical Devices

PCA

Impairment Related Work Expense (IRWE)

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Impairment Related Work Expense (IRWE)

Calculation with IRWE

• Let’s say Mario receives $674.00 in SSI

• He begins working and earning $885.00 gross per month

• What will his new SSI check be?

$885 gross wages

-$ 65 exclusion

-$ 20 exclusion

$800

-$400.00 (Transportation, Medication)

$400 / 2 = $200 Countable Income

$674.00 - $200 = $474.00 SSI

$474.00 + 885.00 - $1,359.00 ($16,308.00 per year)

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Plan for Achieving Self-Support

• Mario likes cooking so much, he wants to go to school to become a chef.

• School will cost $4,000.00 for the first year.

$885 gross wages

-$ 65 exclusion

-$ 20 exclusion

$800

$800 / 2 = $400 Countable Income

Mario says: “I want to save $400.00 a month to go to school!”

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Plan for Achieving Self-Support

$885 gross wages

-$ 65 exclusion

-$ 20 exclusion

$800

$800 / 2 = $400 Countable Income

$400.00 Countable Income

-$400.00 PASS Plan

$0.00 Countable Income

Mario keeps his whole $674.00 + $885.00 per month

That’s $1,559.00!!!

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Thank You!

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