204 the human fall part 1 wh
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Unpicking the story of Adam and Eve to work out what really happened.TRANSCRIPT
The Human Fall
Hell on Earth
The human condition
People
Conscience
Evil mind
Goodness, joy
Evil, guilt
Struggle
“I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is in my flesh. I can will what is right but I cannot do it. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do.”
Romans 7:15-19
God would not create us with opposing purposes
GoodInclination
EvilInclination
2 contradictory
purposes
Like a broken cup
Evil Good
The mystery of evil
If everything God created was good, where does evil come from?
If God is good, almighty and knows what is going on, why does He allow people to suffer?
The story of Adam and Eve
Adam Eve
Serpent
Fruit
Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
Tree of Life
Biblical language
Much of the Bible is written in metaphor and symbol.We need to understand how the people who wrote itunderstood it.
E.g. A tree is a symbol for a person
“For the vineyard of the Lord is the House of Israel, and the men of Judah are his pleasant planting . . .”
Proverbs 11:30
“I am the vine, you are the branches.”John 15:5
What was the serpent?
Serpent
Symbol?
Literal?
“Now the serpent was moresubtle than any other wildcreature that the Lord God had made.” Genesis 3:1
“And that great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he and his angels were thrown down with him.”
Revelation 12:9
Serpent = Devil = Angel Lucifer
Did God create Satan?
Everything God created was good Evil did not exist from the beginning Lucifer was created as a good angel He became an evil being The Principle rejects dualism
Good and evil ‘gods’ always existed Spiritual is good; physical is evil
Where do angels fit in?
Created by God “You, Lord alone made heaven, the
heaven of heavens, with all their host, (angels) the earth and everything.” Neh. 9:6
How were they created? Praise ye him all his angels,
Let them praise the name of the Lord, for he commanded and they were created. Ps. l48:2,5
When were they created? Where were you when I laid the
foundations of the earth? When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God (angels) shouted for joy? Job 38:1,4,7
Helped God with the creation of man“Let us make man in our image . . . .” Genesis
1:26
Servants and messengers of God Take care of Adam and Eve To be servants of Adam and Eve
“Do you not know that we are to judge the angels?” I Corinthians 8:3
God’s commandment
“You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.”
Genesis 2:16-17
What was the fruit?
Fruit
Symbol?
Literal?
“Here and understand: not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
Matthew 15:10-11
Fruit in the Old Testament
“As an apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among young men. With great delight I sat in his shadow, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.”
Song of Solomon 2:3-5
“A garden locked is my sister, my bride, a garden locked, a fountain sealed. Your shoots are an orchard of pomegranates with all choicest fruits.”
Song of Solomon 4:12-13
“Let my beloved come to his garden, and eat its choicest fruits.”
Song of Solomon 4:16
“Under the apple tree I awakened you. There your mother was in travail with you.”
Song of Solomon 8:3
Eating - a metaphor for sex
“And to him who is without sense she says, ‘Stolen water is sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.’ But he does not know that the dead are there, that her guests are in the depths of Sheol.”
Proverbs 9:16-18
“This is the way of the adulteress, she eats, and wipes her mouth and says, ‘I have done no wrong.’”
Proverbs 30:20
The meaning of the fruit
Trees multiply through fruit
People multiply through love
represents sexual love
The fruit was good and necessary for God’s plan to be realised
The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
The tree could produce either good or evil fruit dependingon whether love was God-centred or self-centred
‘To know’ a woman - a Biblical metaphor for sex
When should the fruit be eaten?
The fruit
Mature and married
Immature and unmarried
Goodness
Evil
God gave the commandment to protect Adam and Eve
Our highest values – realized through sexuality
Love Life Lineage
What should have happened?
Adam and Eve should have achieved individual maturity – the First Blessing
Then God would have blessed them in divine marriage – the Second Blessing
They would have had children and established a happy family
Spiritual maturity
Do not “eat”
Period of Growth
A E
G
C
Adam Eve
Free to “eat”
Blessed in marriage
What did happen? Adam and Eve had children – Cain and Abel
It was not a loving family – Cain murdered Abel
Adam and Eve did not have a happy marriage
Adam and Eve had a sexual relationship without being blessed by God in marriage
Adam and Eve did not fulfil the First Blessing before they had a sexual relationship
Spiritual Perfection
Fall
A E
G
C
Adam
Eve
Free to “eat”
Do not “eat”
Adam
Eve
What happened at the fall?
What was the sin of the angel?
“Remember too the angels, how some of them were not content to keep the dominion given to them but abandoned their proper home; and God has reserved them for judgement on the great Day, . . . Remember Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbouring towns; like the angels, they committed fornication and followed unnatural lusts; . . .”
Jude 6-7
What was the sin of Lucifer?
Lucifer committed fornication – illicit sexual relationship – with Eve
What does the Qur’an say?
When they tasted of the tree, their private parts became uncovered to them and they began to cover themselves with the leaves of paradise. Surah 7:22
Children of Adam! Let not Satan deceive you in the manner he deceived your parents out of Paradise, pulling off from them their clothing to reveal to them their shame. Surah 7:27
Possibility of sexual relationship between humans
and angels
• Records of substantial interaction between human and spirit beings
All the emotions and sensationsfelt between a person and a spirit are exactly the same as those felt between earthly people. EDP, 63
What was the sin of Adam and Eve?
Before the Fall:“And the man and his wife were both naked, and they were not ashamed.”
Genesis 2:25
After the Fall:“Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons.”
Genesis 3:7
Adam and Eve had an illicit sexual relationship
Other evidence that the fall was an illicit sexual
relationship ‘Picking a fruit’ - euphemism for sexual love
God is love yet sexual love which is holy and wholesome is often thought of as shameful
Sexual immorality led to the downfall of great men and nations
Many social problems traced to broken homes
Immorality the worst sin
“Shun immorality. Every other sin which a man commits is outside the body; but the immoral man sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?”
I Corinthians 6:18-19
Why did the fall take place?
God
Lucifer
Angels
Universe
God
Lucifer
Angels
Universe
God
Lucifer
Angels
Universe
Adam & Eve
Childrenof God
Adam & EveI Cor. 8:3
What should have happened?
Closest to God
Servant of God
Adam was a child, not yet having his understanding perfected. It was necessary that he should grow and so come to perfection.
Saint Irenaeus (130-200)
Lucifer’s responsibility
Love Adam and Eve
Receive love through Adam and Eve
Serve Adam & Eve
Multiply goodness with Adam and Eve
Lucifer would have been very happy and his desire for love completely satisfied
The process and motivation of the fall
How did it all start?
God loved his children much more than he loved his servant Lucifer. God’s love for Lucifer did not change. It was the same before and after the creation of human beings. When Lucifer saw that God loved Adam and Eve more than him, he felt as if there had been a decrease in the love he received from God. EDP, 63
What was the motivation
for the fall?Lucifer, feeling as though he was receiving less love than he deserved, wanted to grasp the same central position in human society as he enjoyed in the angelic world, as the channel of God’s love. This was why he seduced Eve and this was the motivation of the spiritual fall. EDP, 64
Rebellion in heaven
“How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low. You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; . . . I will make myself like the Most High.’”
Isaiah 14:12-14
What does the Qur’an say?
We said to the angels: 'Prostrate before Adam.’ They all prostrated except Iblis: he was not one of those who fell prostrate.
Allah said: 'What prevented you from prostrating, when I commanded you to do so?' He said: 'I am better than he. You created me from fire, and him You created from clay.’ Surah 7:11,12
Origin of the fall
Lucifer
Closest to God
God
Adam
Eve
Felt less love
Jealousy
Wanted to rule humans
Parable of Labourers in Vineyard Mt. 20:1-15
The fundamental motivation . . . lay in the envy the Archangel felt towards Adam, the beloved of God.
EDP, 72
What are envy and jealousy?
Jealousy is the result or fear of losing someone or something that one is attached to or possesses that one believes one deserves to another person (e.g. the transfer of a lover's affections)
Envy is the resentment caused by another person having something that one does not have, but desires for oneself Malicious envy - wish that the other lacked something
and happy if they lose it even if one doesn’t get it Benign envy - a type of positive motivational force
How could Lucifer feel jealous?
How can there be anything such as envy and jealousy in an archangel, whom God created for a good purpose? The archangel was endowed with desire and intellect as a part of his original nature. Because the archangel possessed an intellect, he could compare and discern that God's love for human beings was greater than the love God gave to him. Because he also possessed desires, he had a natural yearning for God to love him more. This desire of the heart was naturally conducive to envy and jealousy. Envy is an inevitable by-product of the original nature, like the shadow cast by an object in the light.
Lucifer tempts Eve
Lucifer
Desire for unprincipled
love
God
Adam
EveWanted to experiencelove and become like God before time was ripe
When Eve responded to his temptation, the angel felt the stimulation of her love to be deliciously enticing.
EDP, 64
Lucifer’s lie
“ ‘You will not surely die’, the
serpent said to the woman. ‘When
you eat it your eyes will be opened,
and you will be like God…’ ”Genesis 3:4
Fall between Lucifer and Eve
Eve Lucifer
Illicit sexual
relationship
Spiritualonly
Eve before the Fallwas open to sensing the spiritual dimension
Eve received from Lucifer• Feeling of dread from guilty conscience• Lucifer’s wisdom that Adam was intended spouse
Adam and Eve
Eve tempts Adam
Lucifer
Rid herself of guiltand stand before God
God
Adam
Eve
Results of the second fall
Lucifer
FearGuilt
Premature knowledge
God
Adam
Eve
Fall between Adam and Eve
Adam Eve Lucifer
Illicit sexual
relationship
Bothspiritual
andphysical
What were the consequences of
the fall?
God’s heart was broken
God lost object of his love, the very purpose for which He had created the universe
Infinite love infinite grief, sorrow, hurt God was betrayed by Lucifer whom He had
trusted to take care of His children God screaming at what happened to His
children God weeps at the way His world is
“You shall say to them this word: ‘Let my eyes run down with tears night and day, and let them not cease, for the virgin daughter of my people is smitten with a great wound, with a very grievous blow. If I go into the field, behold, those slain by the sword! And if I enter the city, behold, the diseases of famine.’”
Jeremiah 14:17-18
“The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.”
Genesis 6:5-6
Loss of relationship with God
“My soul thirsts for God, for the
living God . . . My tears have
been my food day and night . . .”Psalms 42:1
How did Satan come to rule?
Lucifer
Adam
Eve
“The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me the fruit of the tree and I ate.”
“The serpent beguiled me, and I ate.”
God: “Where are you?”“Who told you that you were naked?
“Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?”
Adam blamed Eve; Eve blamed Lucifer. Denial of responsibility; denial of position; loss of freedom
Loss of the first blessing
Sinful Person
Mind Body
SatanConflict between spirit and flesh
People born with original sin
“You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires.”
John 8:44
Object Subject
AddictionGreedLazinessLustDishonesty
Contradictory natureGood inclination vs evil inclination
Confused identity
Loss of the second blessing
SocietyNationWorld
Fallen Family
Adam
Satan
Eve
“I will greatly multiply your pain in child-bearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you.”
Genesis 3:16
UnfaithfulnessAbuseTyrannyViolence
Loss of the third blessing
Hell
Person Creation
Satan
“Cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you.”
Genesis 3:17-19
MaterialismConsumerismEnvironmentaldegradation
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Why didn’t God stop the fall and other issues