2009 Med/Dent Application Informational Meeting for 2010

Application Cycle

April 28, 2009

Dr. M. Samide and Mrs. J. Malarney

www.butler.edu/postgraduate

Medical / Dental School

Primary Application

Complete online application

Send college transcripts

Letters of Recommendation sent here

Pay application fee

AMCAS/AADSAS processes the primary application.

Once this processing is complete, AMCAS/AADSAS sends the primary application to the medical schools selected by the applicant.

At this point, the medical school takes over the application.

Secondary Application

Interview

Upon invitation from the medical school:

Submit additional letters of

recommendation

Submit additional writing samples

Send updated transcripts if necessary

Pay additional application fee if

required

Schedule interview date upon invitation from the medical or dental school

Personal Statement Information

• http://www.essayedge.com/medical/essayadvice/course/lessonone.shtml

• http://www.amsa.org/premed/premedguide/pstatement.cfm#1

For medical school, but also could be used for dental

Recommendation Letters

• AMCAS and AADSAS– submit letters when you apply through the

application service

AMCAS Letter Basics

• Applicants can add up to 10 letters– 2009 Applicants averaged 2-3 letters per application

• Applicants can send “targeted” letters

– Alumnus

– MD/PhD

• AMCAS retains letters for one application cycle only

AMCAS Letter Basics In AMCAS, the student will: Identify the letters AMCAS will receive (up to 10 letters)

Committee letter, letter packet OR Individual letter Institution Information (if available) Letter Writer / Contact information

Can add additional authors for letter packets Print letter request form and provide it to letter writer/ contact Track receipt of letters by AMCAS

• Designating Letters to Medical Schools

– Select Medical School

– A pre-populated list of letters entered by the applicant will appear

– Choose from the list of letters by either selecting all letters or designating them individually

– Letters DO NOT have to be entered before submission of the application.

• Once application is submitted with letter information it can NOT be edited/deleted

AMCAS Letter Basics

AMCAS Letters – not sending

• Applicants will be able to let AMCAS know if a letter is no longer going to be received so that:– Medical Schools will not wait for the delivery

of a letter– Applicants will stop receiving reminders about

a letter they don’t plan to have sent• This letter still makes up one of their 10 letter

entries

Recommendation Letters

• At Butler– Committee Letter Process– Right now

• Select and Ask a professor to write your committee letter (should have already done this!!!)

• Fill out OPGS worksheets (available now)

– Judy????

Links to Medical InformationOpens May 5th!

• http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/advisors/amcas2010instructions041509.pdf

• http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/advisors/2010conversionguide.pdf

• http://www.medicine.iu.edu/body.cfm?id=174&oTopID=174#app

• http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/2010apptips.pdf• http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/

2010appchecklist.pdf• http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/faq/

amcasletters.htm

Links to Dental InformationOpens June 1st!

• http://www5.adea.org/WebDocs/AADSAS/AppAADSASInstructions.pdf

• http://www.adea.org/dental_education_pathways/aadsas/Documents/AppInfo.pdf

Links to Podiatric Information

• http://www.e-aacpmas.org/

• http://www.e-aacpmas.org/aacpmas2009/html-bin/beforeapp.html

• http://www.aacpm.org/

• http://www.ocpm.edu/?page=admission

Links to Osteopathic Information

•http://www.aacom.org/Pages/default.aspx

•http://www.aacom.org/people/colleges/Pages/AppsDue.aspx

•http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/cib2010/2010cib-p18-20.pdf

•http://www.osteopathic.org/index.cfm?PageID=ost_main

•http://www.atsu.edu/kcom/

Alternate Programs

•http://www.meddean.luc.edu/depts/grad_school/programs.htm

•http://www.pbhealth.iupui.edu

•http://smp.georgetown.edu/

•http://grad.medicine.iu.edu/body.cfm?id=1851

•http://www.msms.iu.edu/body.cfm?id=6994&SubDomain=true

Some IU Dent Stats

– 1778 applied in 2008– 101 matriculated in 2008– 5.6%– Average GPA: 3.53 (science, 3.48)– DAT Averages: Academic – 18.8

Perceptual – 20Science – 18.7

– Placement: IUB, IUPUI, PU, BS, Butler

Our Dental Stats

• Why were students accepted– Applied Early (May and June)– High DAT (19-23 on various sections)– High GPA (3.4 to 4.0)

• Why were students rejected– Applied late (September)– Low DAT (15-17 on various sections)– Low GPA (2.4 to 3.0)

2009 placement – 4 / 8 (50%)

Some National Medical Stats

– 40706 Applicants– 14729 Accepted– 36%– Average GPA: 3.69– Average MCAT: 30

Our Medical Stats

• Why were students accepted– Applied Early (May and June)– High MCAT (30-34 total)– High GPA (3.8 to 4.0)

• Why were students rejected– Applied late (September)– Multiple Low MCAT (19-28 total)– Low GPA (3.0 to 3.7)– Weak interview– Questionable school discipline record

2009 placement – 12 / 28 (50%)

Our Medical Stats

2009 placement – 12 / 28 (43%)

Graduating seniors

Placement was 7 of 19

Postgraduate students

Placement was 5 of 9

What to do now:

• Decide if and then where to apply• Get copies of ALL transcripts• Letters of Recommendation…coordinate with

Judy• Refine your personal goal statement• Develop a resume of activities and

accomplishments• Start working on the application as soon as it

becomes available on-line!