2007 kgtv investigative report on seaworld killer whale display
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Questions and Answers from A 2007 investigative report by KGTV with SeaWorld Entertainment. There are some fascinating answers here.TRANSCRIPT
KGTV Investigative Report on SeaWorld Killer Whale Display and Dolphin Interaction
Program
Questions and Answers
While we thank Channel 10 for the opportunity to respond to these questions, we must express
our disappointment regarding your sources. It appears that in researching this story you have
accepted as fact the propaganda of animal rights extremists whose sole objective is denying
Americans the privilege of experiencing marine mammals in places like SeaWorld. We have
long been the leader in marine mammal display. The welfare of SeaWorld’s animals is our
highest priority.
SeaWorld parks have displayed killer whales for nearly four decades and in that time, we have
conducted more than 160,000 shows and millions of interaction sessions, including husbandry,
training, research, enrichment, play, veterinary care and exercise. While we recognize that there
is an element of risk in any animal interaction, there have been a remarkably small number of
serious incidents and no fatalities.
We’d also like to remind KGTV and its viewers that correct common name for this species is
“killer whale” not “orca.” “Orca” is part of the species’ Latin name. The shorthand “orca,”
while in wide use, is incorrect. It would be like calling dogs “familiarus” or horses “caballus.”
Q1: Does SeaWorld have any comment on the deaths of the whales during the capture years
ago in Puget Sound? 1965-1974?
A: Collections that occurred more than four decades ago have no bearing on the SeaWorld
parks that people visit today. Virtually nothing about killer whales was known in 1965.
They were animals so feared and despised that they were routinely used by military pilots
for aerial target practice. The techniques used in those early collections would not be
employed today, primarily because we know far more about these animals today than we
did in 1965. In any event, the question is irrelevant. SeaWorld hasn’t collected a killer
whale from the wild since 1978 and can now point to the most successful breeding
program for this species in the zoological community. More than 80 percent of our killer
whales were born in our parks or other zoological institutions. Many were born to
parents and even grandparents who were born in our care.
Most of your viewers will recognize that asking the SeaWorld of 2007 to defend
collection techniques employed in 1967 is unfair and does nothing to contribute to their
understanding of the complex philosophical issues surrounding marine mammal display.
It is, in fact, like us asking you to defend your station’s coverage of the Vietnam war.
Q2: Specifically, does SeaWorld have a comment on the death of the mother of the original
Shamu in 1965 or the deaths of 4 whales during a capture for SeaWorld by Ted Griffin and
Don Goldsberry? (Goldsberry became a VP for SeaWorld) We understand that the park was
owned by another entity at that time but wanted to offer you an opportunity to respond to this
question.
A: The death of any animal under any circumstances saddens us, but we’re left to wonder
why we are being asked about collections that occurred more than 40 years ago. We are
not affiliated with Don Goldsberry or Ted Griffin in any way. They are not employed by
SeaWorld now and, according to our records, haven’t been for decades.
Here are the facts on killer whale collection:
The Marine Mammal Protection Act, a federal law that exists to protect marine mammals
in zoological habitats and wild marine mammals in U.S. territorial waters, sets out the
terms under which animals like killer whales can be collected from the wild for public
display. The MMPA did not exist until 1972 so any collection from the wild before then
relied on techniques that would likely not meet MMPA standards and would certainly be
unacceptable to SeaWorld today. In defense of individuals like Goldsberry and Griffin,
however, almost the only thing known about killer whales in 1965 was that they were
animals to be feared and despised. Fishermen shot them as a matter of routine. If there is
a higher sensitivity and respect for these animals today, places like SeaWorld can claim
some measure of credit.
And, as a matter of fact, Goldsberry was never a vice president at SeaWorld.
Q3: What is SeaWorld doing about whale research to benefit whales in the wild?
A: A tremendous amount. Channel 10 itself has aired dozens of stories on SeaWorld’s
contribution to the scientific understanding of wild marine animals, including whales.
We have funded countless studies of killer whale behavior, including conflicts between
fishermen and wild whales in Alaska’s Prince William Sound. We have sent teams to
assist wild whales in distress, including a trip in the mid-1990s to rescue eight killer
whales from Barnes Lake in Alaska and a trip just last month to stabilize and treat a
newborn killer whale beached near Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. We rescue, rehabilitate and
release more marine mammals than any organization in the world, including animals like
J.J., the California gray whale raised in our care and released off the coast of San Diego.
SeaWorld has more than 40 years of leadership in wildlife conservation and education.
The success of the parks' animal rescue and rehabilitation programs, educational
programs and breeding programs are unparalleled in the world. The knowledge we have
gained through the breeding programs in our parks has contributed to our understanding
of killer whale biology, reproductive physiology, and behavior. This knowledge is
important in assessing the status of wild populations. Originally, scientists thought that
the gestation period for killer whales was 12 months. We have shown that in fact
gestation is closer to 17 months; important to modeling expected population growth rates
in the wild. We have documented growth patterns in killer whale calves. We have
studied vocal development in killer whales and demonstrated that killer whale calves
learn their vocalizations in a manner similar to the way that human children learn
language. We have developed effective means of handling and transporting killer whales.
In a conservation sense, the animals in our zoological population provide a living
laboratory for developing knowledge and techniques crucial to the future survival of
endangered or threatened killer whale stocks.
In fact, the knowledge we have gained from the killer whales in our parks is having an
immediate impact on wild populations. For example, scientists from Hubbs-SeaWorld
Research Institute were able to help Alaskan longline fishermen resolve a problem with
killer whales taking black cod off their lines. Tensions had elevated to the point where
fishermen were applying for “take” permits to use explosives and many whales were
being shot. The environmental community was advocating shutting down the fishery.
Institute scientists, working from hearing sensitivity curves (audiograms) developed from
the SeaWorld collection of killer whales, were able to study the noise made by the fishing
vessels as they backhauled their gear, and discerned which components of the noise the
whales were able to cue in on. The Institute was then able to recommend how fishermen
could quiet their vessels to dramatically reduce the distance over which the vessels could
be heard by the whales, thereby resolving the problem.
In addition to the scientific research and conservation value of the killer whales at
SeaWorld, there is also a significant educational benefit that should not be overlooked.
Over the years, nearly 300 million people of all walks of life have visited SeaWorld
parks. In our parks, visitors are exposed to marine mammals in an exhilarating and
educational manner that is designed to instill an appreciation and respect for all living
creatures and natural environments. The exhibits are designed to also inspire visitors to
conserve our valuable natural resources by increasing awareness for the interrelationships
of humans and the marine environment. Inspiring and engagement through education are
the first steps in conservation. And our educational efforts reach well beyond our parks.
SeaWorld offers an extraordinary number of special programs, including formal
instructional programs for school children and teachers in our parks, outreach programs
made available for schools that cannot visit the parks, distance education programs such
as "Shamu TV," an award winning environmental television series, and the
SeaWorld/Busch Gardens Animal Information Database internet Web site.
And, of course, SeaWorld and Busch Gardens devote around-the-clock, behind-the-
scenes and across-the-globe resources and technology to rescue, treat, shelter and release
many species of stranded, sick and injured animals. Our parks rescue, rehabilitate and
release more animals than any other organization in the world. Since 1970, the parks have
rescued more than 13,000 animals, including several endangered and threatened species -
that averages out to about one animal rescue every day for the past 34 years. At
SeaWorld San Diego alone, more than 4,000 animals have been rescued in the last four
decades. Our financial commitment to our Animal Rescue and Rehabilitation Program is
estimated at more than one million dollars per year.
Q4: What is SeaWorld doing to aid the whale population in the Puget Sound, the pods that
provided the first generation of whales for SeaWorld?
A: Much of what is known about the killer whale’s natural history was learned at SeaWorld
and in other zoological institutions. Our contributions to the scientific understanding of
killer whale social behavior, bioacoustics, anatomy and reproductive biology are a matter
of record. We have been called upon several times over the past decade to assist killer
whales in Puget Sound, including the rescue of a killer whale named Sandy and
rehabilitation of a young whale named Luna. We have provided that assistance without
hesitation and entirely at our own expense.
Q5: What types of anti-depressants are your trainers providing Orcas?
A: None of SeaWorld’s killer whales are given anti-depressants.
The context of this and the following question seems to insinuate that our killer whales
are stressed. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Combining the fact that they live in
large pool complexes, which range from hundreds of thousands to millions of gallons (at
or beyond what is required by federal law), with extensive social enrichment programs,
high quality food, no contact with predators and the world's best medical care, we know
our animals are content and in excellent physical and mental condition.
Another demonstration of the healthy and stress free environment for our animals is
breeding. We have had many killer whale, dolphin, walrus and other animal births at our
park. An animal’s willingness to breed is suggestive of both good physical and mental
health.
Q6: What type of ulcer medications are your trainers providing Orcas? What dosage?
A: We provide whatever treatment an animal’s medical condition demands. None of our
killer whales are being treated for ulcers at present.
Q7: Are any of your whales blind or disabled?
A: No.
Q8: During an unannounced visit by our I Team, a trainer told us the dorsal fin on Corky
was drooping to one side due to old age. Corky is roughly 37 years old.
A: We’re not sure who you spoke with during this visit, but from the information included in
your question, we believe it wasn’t a trainer. First of all Corky’s dorsal fin doesn’t
droop. It is perfectly straight. Second, Corky was collected in 1969. Her age at
collection was estimated, based on length and weight, to be at least 2. That would make
her at least 40, not 37. She was not collected by SeaWorld. She entered our collection in
the late 1980s from a now-closed marine park near Los Angeles.
A killer whale’s dorsal fin has no bone in it. It’s made up of fibrous connective tissue.
Certainly that kind of tissue breaks down somewhat with age, but the shape of a dorsal
fin varies from animal to animal, which is as true of wild whales as it is in whales in a
zoological setting. The shape of a whale’s dorsal fin offers no insights whatever to its
health or state of mind.
You might be interested to know that a recent survey of killer whales around New
Zealand has documented that 23 percent of wild males had bent dorsal fins. Still, we’re
left to wonder how the shape of one whale’s dorsal fin is relevant to a story about
maintaining killer whales in a zoological setting.
Q9: At least 3 trainers have said there is too much stress on trainers and on whales-this
contributes to the attacks. Trainers also expressed concerns that whales were too busy
performing, then doing extra activities such as Dine with Shamu to develop positive bonds
with the trainers. Response?
A: We’ll start with your use of the word “attack.” We have had millions of discrete
interactions with killer whales – in shows, training, husbandry, exercise, artificial
insemination, play and veterinary care – with only a tiny handful of incidents that might
be described as serious. Not one of those incidents has resulted in a fatality and only a
few have resulted in injury to our trainers. I should remind you that killer whales are the
ocean’s top predator. They weigh as much as six tons. They are enormously powerful
animals able to prey on anything that crosses their path. Yet our trainers interact with
them, play with them, perform with them, exercise with them, and enter the water with
them – thousands of times each week. Without incident. This does not suggest to us an
animal that is experiencing stress of any kind. Likewise our trainers. We are sensitive to
the expectations we place on all staff members and make adjustments as we feel they are
necessary. We do not view things like Dine With Shamu as “extra” activity for the killer
whales. It is, like any interaction between whale and trainer, highly reinforcing for the
whale. All interactions, whether they are for training, husbandry, enrichment or public
performances contribute the relationship development and bond between trainers and
killer whales.
Q10: SeaWorld VP Don Goldsberry---Sources say he is responsible for capturing more
animals than stated on permits. Is this true?
A: Don Goldsberry hasn’t worked for SeaWorld in 20 years. We haven’t collected a killer
whale from the wild in nearly 30 years. The collections you’re referring to are ancient
history. Very few members of our current zoological team have even met Don
Goldsberry. Certainly we would never accept any departure from the specifications of a
collection permit, including the number of animals collected.
Q11: Sources say these animals would be traded to other aquariums outside of the US, only to
be “borrowed” by SeaWorld? Is this true? Is it continuing today?
A: We have absolutely no idea what you’re referring to. Your sources are incorrect. Every
animal that has ever been acquired by SeaWorld – through collection, captive birth,
acquisition from another aquarium or for long-term care after beaching – has entered our
collection legally. The U.S. government maintains an inventory of all captive marine
mammals. That list, which includes births, deaths, collection status and transfers within
the zoological community, is public record.
Q12: At one point, SeaWorld executives said that orcas live to about 30 years old in the wild.
What is SeaWorld’s position now about the life span of Orca’s in the wild? What does
SeaWorld consider the probable life span of an Orca in captivity?
A: Longevity is consistently the most misrepresented part of the debate over the zoological
display of killer whales. The simple fact is this: No one knows how long captive or wild
killer whales live because no one has ever followed a group from birth to death. We have
often said that 30 years is as good an estimate of average killer whale lifespan as we
currently have. Clearly animals can exceed that age, as evidenced by one of ours, Corky.
She is at least 40 and perhaps as old as 42. Peter F. Olesiuk, Graeme M. Ellis and John
Ford, three of the world’s most respected marine mammal scientists and individuals who
have studied longevity in wild whales for years, recently wrote in the proceedings of the
16th Biennial Conference on the Biology of Marine Mammals that female killer whales in
their study group had a mean life expectancy of 31 years and males just 19 years.
Q13: What is SeaWorld’s response to the high number of miscarriages and early deaths of
calves born to whales in captivity?
A: We don’t accept the premise of your question. The number of calves that do not survive
their first year is vastly lower in whales born in our zoological setting than it is in the
wild, where neo-natal mortality is estimated at 50 percent or more. In our population of
killer whales, calf mortality is only 20 percent. As far as miscarriages are concerned, it is
rare among our killer whales and we have no reason to believe that it is any more
common in our animals than it is in the wild. The opposite is almost certainly true, given
the quality of our veterinary care and the environmental pressures and pollution faced by
wild populations.
Q14: How much space do the whales have for swimming in their pools?
A: Animals at SeaWorld are given all the space they require. They live in large pool
complexes which range from hundreds of thousands to millions of gallons (at or beyond
what is required by federal law). The killer whale habitat at SeaWorld is 7 million
gallons of continually filtered and chilled seawater. It is, in fact, the largest marine
mammal habitat ever constructed.
Q15: Does SeaWorld take any more whales from the wild? This question includes any whales
that originate from foreign aquariums but that were caught in the last five years in the wild.
A: No whale in our care was collected from the wild within the last five years, by us or
anyone else. We haven’t collected a killer whale from the wild in nearly 30 years. It
should be noted, however, that wild collection of marine mammals, including killer
whales, is entirely legal in the United States. It is provided for in the Marine Mammal
Protection Act, which acknowledges the tremendous educational benefit of interpreting
these animals in a zoological setting.
Q16: Does SeaWorld have any whales in “storage” in aquariums outside of the United
States?
A: SeaWorld doesn’t “store” whales or any other animal. There are marine mammals living
in our parks that are on breeding loan from other institutions and there are SeaWorld
marine mammals on breeding loan to other facilities. There are four SeaWorld killer
whales living in Loro Parque, a zoological institution in the Canary Islands. Those are
the only SeaWorld whales currently living outside our parks.
Q17: What is the maximum number of shows that an Orca will be expected to perform in one
day?
A: A killer whale isn’t expected to perform any shows. Participation in shows is entirely
voluntary as is any interaction with our zoological staff. If a whale doesn’t want to
participate – although this is a rare occurrence -- that is entirely their choice. However,
whales find participating in shows, like any interaction with our zoological staff, an
enriching, interesting and fun experience. They are eager to participate.
Q18: Are there any safety issues with “swim with the dolphins” programs?
A: Swim with dolphins programs in SeaWorld parks and Discovery Cove are very safe.
There is an element of risk with any animal interaction, however, we have created these
programs with safety as the highest priority and problems are extremely rare as a result.
We rely on positive reinforcement with all of our animals, including dolphins. Our
animal training staff teaches our dolphins to interact safely in the water not only with our
trainers but also our guests.
Q19: Is there any health and well being concerns for dolphins involved in “swim with the
dolphins” program?
A: We monitor the health of all of our animals very closely. We have encountered no health
issues related to a dolphin’s interaction with our guests, either in swim programs like that
offered by Discovery Cove, or other types of dolphin interaction in SeaWorld parks. Our
dolphins find these interactions interesting and fun, and they participate voluntarily.
Q20: Would SeaWorld support regulations on “Swim with the Dolphins” programs
nationwide, limiting the interactions between dolphins and people?
A: We would support any regulation that was based on sound husbandry and behavioral
science that we felt was necessary to assure the health and safety of our animals and
guests. However, there is no reason to consider regulation for dolphin interaction based
on the experience in SeaWorld parks and Discovery Cove. The amount of dolphin/guest
interaction in our parks has been determined by our staff, the most experienced and
knowledgeable marine mammal caretakers in the world today. The amount of interaction
is entirely appropriate.
Q21: While our crew was visiting the park, we witnessed a SeaWorld employee refunding a
customer his money and providing free SeaWorld tickets after a dolphin “incident.” How
often are people hit, bitten, or harmed in any way by a dolphin during the swim with the
dolphin program? Is the public advised of this potential problem? What is SeaWorld policy
when this happens?
A: We pride ourselves on providing the highest quality and safest animal experiences in the
world. Any interaction with an animal carries a small element of risk. Incidents of the
type you describe are exceedingly rare in our parks. Guests in our dolphin interaction
programs are informed of the remote possibility of injury and are taught how to safely
conduct themselves in the presence of dolphins during the classroom portion of their
program.
Our policy is to take whatever measures are necessary to assure that guests leave our
parks 100 percent satisfied with their experience. Any guest who might experience an
injury in one of our parks receives medical care from our emergency medical technicians.
In the more than a decade that we’ve had the Dolphin Interaction Program, no guest has
sustained more than a minor bump or bruise. Through our Dolphin Interaction Program
we also have educated hundreds of thousands of guests about dolphin behavior, ecology,
physiology and behavior. This education process is first hand and personal, and goes far
beyond any book or video about dolphins in making a lasting impression.
Q22: Regarding Superior Court Case number 604148, John Allen Sillick v Harcourt, Brace,
Jovanovich, Inc, and SeaWorld Inc.- SeaWorld asked and was granted a motion sealing most
of the case and all of the parts relevant to the health of Orky and the veterinary care at
SeaWorld. Why did SeaWorld want this information shielded from the public indefinitely?
Would you be willing to open the records in this case?
A: The company that owned SeaWorld in 1987, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, asked that the
records concerning our veterinary care be sealed because much of the information in
those documents is proprietary, highly technical and requires a very specific type of
veterinary expertise to understand. As we have seen many times, veterinary information
released by SeaWorld can be and often is taken out of context. The incident in which
John Sillick was injured occurred many years ago. We have made countless refinements
to our training and husbandry procedures since then. To preserve Mr. Sillick’s privacy,
we cannot discuss the specifics of his case.