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Episode12:CoconutOilSecret&Natural

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Katie:Hi,I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com.Andthisisepisode12oftheWellnessMamaPodcastwhereIprovidesimpleanswersforhealthierfamilies.Didyouknowthatcoconutoilandcoconutproductsareamongsomeofthehealthiestfoodintheworld?IntheUnitedStatesmanypeopleavoidsaturatedfatsbutcoconutoilisuniqueforitshighcontentoflauricacidandmedium-chaintriglycerides.Infact,populationsthroughouttheworldthatconsumethemostcoconutoilandcoconutproductshaveexcellenthealthandlowratesofdisease.OneexampleofthisistheTokelauanswhichliveintheSouthPacific.Theygetanestimated60%oftheircaloriesfromcoconutsandthey'reconsideredtobeoneofthepopulationsintheworldthatconsumesthemostsaturatedfat.Infact,theAmericanJournalofClinicalNutritionreportedthattheTokelauansandPukaPukatribesbothhadextremelyhighintakeofsaturatedfatbutwereinexcellenthealthwithnoheartdisease.TheNationalInstituteforHealthalsoreportedthattheKettavan,atribefromtheMelanesianislands,hadahighsaturatedfatintakeandlowratesofheartdiseaseandstroke.Intoday'sepisode,wewillbedelvingintotheworldofcoconutoilandwhatmakesitsohealthy.OurguestisJakeCarney,founderofthewildlypopularsiteTheAlternativeDaily,whichhasoveramillionemailsubscribers.He'stheauthorof"TheCoconutOilSecret"andyoucanfindoutmoreaboutJakeandgetacopyof"TheCoconutOilSecret"atadiscountbygoingtowellnessmama.com/go/coconutbook,alloneword.I'msoexcitedtohaveJakeontotalkaboutoneofmyfavoritefoods,coconutoil,andwhatmakesitsoawesome.Sowelcome,Jake.Jake:Thankyou,Katie.Howit'sgoing?Katie:It'sgoinggreat.Howareyou?Jake:Good,good,good.Thanksforhavingme.Katie:I'msogladyou'rehere.Let'sjumprightinbecauseIcouldtalkaboutcoconutoilIthinkalldaylong.ButfirstI'dlovetoknowhowdidyougetintothisfieldandstartwritingonyourblog?Iknowitseemslikeeverybloggerhastheirownstory.Wasthereastruggleyouhadpersonallyordidyoujustresearchyourwayintoitorhowdidyougetstarted?Jake:Youknow,it'sagreatquestionbecauseasyousaidmanyofusgotintothiswhetherit'sapersonalstruggleortragedy.Andmineactuallyhadnothingtodowithcoconutoil.Itactuallyhappenedprobably…Idon'twannakindofgetallcliché'andsayitstartedaroundsixyearsoldbutitreallydid.AndIguessmybigstrugglewaswithdeathandthefearofdeathanddyingandwhathappens.Irememberbeingsixyearsoldandliterallygettingstartedtogetpanicattacks,wakingupfromnightmaresof,youknow,justofthinkingaboutdeathanddreamsaboutdeathandnotlikegrimreapertypeofstuffandlikegorydeathbutjustlikewhathappenswhenyoudie.And,youknow,andthenkindofgrowingupinthatreligiousbackground,youknow.You'rekindofalwaysinto,"Oh,I'mjustgonnagotochurchandkindafigureitoutthatway."Andcometheageof12,stillhavingthesekindofbackgroundthoughtsandpanicattacksandanxieties.Andthen,youknow,Irememberitwasactuallythebeginningofmyhighschoolcareer.Iactuallymissedaweekofschoolbecauseitjusthitmeevenharder.Itwasoneofthosethingswherethethoughtofdeathandthethoughtofdying,mylovedonesdyingandtherebeingnothinganymorewasjust…wassososcarytomeandwerejustthrowingkindofthesepanic

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attacks,anxiety,depression,thatIjustcouldn't…Icouldn'treallyevenjustgetupandgotoschool.SoIremembertellingmymomaboutitandshewaslike,"Youcanstayhomefromschoolandwe'llfigurethisout."Youknow,nothingreallyhappened.Iwentontohighschool,collegeandwhathappensduringthosetimesisyoustarttomasksomeofyourfearsandanxieties.Andsoyougopartyingalittlebitmoreand,youknow,creatingdifferent,youknow…justsuppressingallofthatstuff,allofthosethoughts.AndthenaboutIwouldsayfiveorsixyearsagoIactually…itcametoaheadagainandIactuallyhadaveryverydearfriendwhowaskilledinacaraccident,completelyfreakaccident,youknow,ataredlight,drunkdriverhitshim,gone.Andthatkindofjustreallystartedtokindathrowmeoff.Andthenthreemonthslaterhiswifeactuallydiedofbreastcancer.AndIjustrememberbeinglike…andtheyhadbigkidswhoweremyage.Iwasbestfriendswiththemaswell.AndsoIjustremember,"Oh,myGod.Imean,literally,they'rebothgone.Off,youknow,offthisearthwithin,youknow,threemonthsofeachother."AndthenaboutfourorfivemonthslatermygrandmotherpassedawaywhoIwasreally,youknow,closewith.Andthat'swhenitjustkindof,boom,hitme.Iwas,youknow…yougetthedepression,anxiety,panicattacks,youknow,wakingupinthemiddleofnight,beingintheshowerthinkingaboutit.AndIspecificallyrememberoneinstanceIwasdoingsomeyardworkandIwaswalkinguptheactualyardcarryingsomepalmtreesorwhatevertheywere.AndIjustrememberjustthethoughtof,youknow,deathandwhathappened.Iliterallyfoundmyselfkindaalmostscreamingoutloudjusttryingto,youknow…kindagetthatthoughtoutofmyhead.Andmywifewaslike,"Hey,what'swrong?"Andsowekindatalkedaboutit.Andmywife,she'saveryonesandzeroestypeofperson,youknow.Shesays,"Idon'tunderstandwhat'stheproblemwithit.You'redyingandthat'sit."AndIwaslike,"Youjustdon'tunderstandmypanicandmyanxiety."So,Iendedupgoingtoadoctorandthisisbefore…thisiswhatkindathrewtoalternativehealth.WenttoadoctorandatthatpointI'mlike,"Ggivemeanything.GivemeXanax.Givemeanythingyougot.Ireallyjustwannatry,justwannagetthisout."So,Iwenttothedoctorandheexaminesme.ItellhimallthatI'mfeeling.WhenIgetthesethoughtsIjustkindof…heartpalpitations,heavyheartbreathing.Ican't…justthingsareallamess.Andhesaid,"Well,doyoufeellikeyou'redyingwhenthathappens?"AndIwaslike,"No,butI'msweating.Allthisstuffishappening."Andhesaid,"Well,doyoueverfeellikeyou'redying?"I'mlike,"No,it'stheoppositeofthat.Iwannalive.Idon'twannadie."He'slike,"Well…"Andhepulledoutabookandhe'slike,"Here'sthedefinitionofpanicattack,youknow.It'sifyoufeellikeyou'regonnadiethat'sapanicattack.Ifyoudon'tfeellikeyou'regonnadie,it'snotapanicattack."AndIlookedathimlike,"You'recrazy.You'recrazierthanIrightnowbecauseIknowthisispanicattack.IknowthisisahugeanxietyI'mdealingwith."Andsohekindoftookastepbackandsaid,"Jake,youknow,you're26,27yearsold.Youshouldbeworriedaboutgoingoutwithyourfriendsandchasinggirls."AndIwaslike,"I'mmarried.You'recraziernow."AndsoIliterallyjustkindofleftthatofficethinking,youknow,god,Iwishhewouldhavegivenmesomething.AndthentoolikewheredoIgofromhere?AnditturnsoutthatI'mreallygladthathenevergavemeanything.So,youknow,coupleweekslaterI'msittingtheredealingwithit.Andit'sfunny,IdidmentionthatIkindagrewup,youknow,religiousbackground,wenttoCatholicschool.Irememberbeingoutsideofmyfrontyardagainandmymom…Iwasjustkindofalljustamess.Andmymomsaid,"What'swrong?"AndIkindofsortofexplainedtoher.Shelookedatmeandmymom,devoutCatholic,everythinghasbeengonethatdogmaticrouteandshegoes...Itoldherwhat'sgoingonandshewaslike,"Jake,youneedtofindaspiritualbalance."AndIkindoflikelookedupandlookedatherandIwaslike,"Whatdoyoumean?"Andshewaslike,"You

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know,thechurchisn't…youknow,ifyoudon'twannagotochurch,ifyoudon'twannareadtheBible,ifyoudon'twannadoit,"she'slike,"Justfindsometypeofbalance.Findsometypeofspiritualbalance."Andithitmeandthatwaslikethefirsttimetherewaskindalikethisopeningof,"Wow.Youknowwhat?Idon'thavetodoit,youknow,thewaythateverybodyelseissayingtodoitandstufflikethat."So,thenextthingIdidwasIstartedresearching,youknow,whatBuddhiststhink,Hindusthink,whatdoatheiststhink,youknow,whatdoeseverybodythinkandjustbelikeextremelyopenwiththis.AndsoIgotabunchofinformation,obviouslysomeconflicting,somenon-conflicting.Noneofthemhadtheexactanswer.Andthenthiswasthecoolestthing,andIstumbleduponawebsite.It'sasurfingwebsitethatIcheckallthetimebecauseIsurfhereinSouthFlorida.Andthere'sthisprofessionalsurferbythenameofTaylorKnox,reallyawesomesurferandalsoaverygoodhumanbeing.Andhementionedthathealwayspracticedwhat'scalledKeleeMeditation,K-E-L-E-EMeditation.AndIwaslike,"Wow,that'ssoundscool.He'sasurfer.Isurf.LetmeseeifIcan,youknow,lookthatup."AndsoIlookeditupandIfoundthiswebsite,terriblelookingwebsite,anditactuallyhadthemeditationpracticeonthere.SoI'mthinkingthisguy'saterriblemarketerandwhyisn'thesellingthis?AndsohetellsyouhowtodoitandthenyoucouldbuyalsobuyhisbookliterallyforIthinkitwaslike…itwasahardcoverbook,youknow.YouactuallygetitfromAmazon.It'slike$4or$5.AndI'mlike,"Well,thisiskindacoolbecauseyou'renotchargingalotofmoneyforit."Andso,youknow,Istarteddoingthepractice.Igotthebook,gotintouchwithhiswife,youknow,whokindarunsthewebsiteandkindof,youknow,been…wastalkingbackandforthwithher.AndthenIstartedpracticingthateverymorningandeveryeveningeveryday.Anditwastoughbecause,Katie,I'msurerunningabusinessandhavingpersonallifeandhavingkids,it'sallthesethings,somanythingsgothroughyourhead.Yougothroughthisdaykindoflike,youknow,afuzz,justgettingthenextthingdone,nextthingdone.Well,everymorningIstopfor5to10minutesandeveryeveningIstopfor5to10minutes.AndIdisappear.Ihadtogoafterdinnerandpeoplearelike,"Whereareyougoing?"I'mlike,"Ihavetogotomymeditation.Igotsideeyes."Itwaslike,"Whatareyoudoingthatfor?That'sweird.It'slikeblackmagic.""Okay,whatever."So,IwoulddothateverydayandthenonedayprobablyaboutthreeorfourmonthsintoitI…andagainasIwaskindagoingthroughthis,it'skindoflikeIcouldstarttofeellikeIwashavinglessandlesspanicattacksandanxiety.Andthenonedayduringmyactualmeditationpractice…nowthewholethingisyoudon'twannabethinkingaboutspecificthingsinthepracticeIdowhenyoutrytoreallygettoastillpoint,we'lljustcallit.Andonethoughtthatcameup,andyoukindofgettoapointwhereyoucankindoflikeseeyourthoughts.Iwon'tgettoomuchintoit.AndkindoftheonefeelingIgotwasthewholedeathfeeling.AndIfelttheheartpalpitations.Ifelt…youknow,mybodytemperaturerose.Istartedsweating.Andforthefirsttimeever,likeIdidnotrunfromit.Ididn'trunfromit.Ididn'tthrowupanotherthought.Iliterallyjustwentintoitandjustfeltitandwentintoit.Andthenatthatmoment,itwasliterallyjust…itwasjustunbelievablefeelingofpeaceandnothingnessIguessyoucouldsay.AndIdon'twannakindofdescribeit,labelitoranythinglikethatbutIreallyjustfeel…theywerejustcompletelygone,youknow.Thepanicattacks,theanxietywascompletelygone.Itwasjustacure…stillnessiswhat,youknow,wecometoknowitas.AndafterthatIcontinuedtodoit.But,youknow,thatmomentlastedformaybeacouplesecondsandthen,youknow,youkindofgetoutofitlike,"Oh,whatwasthat?"Yourmindstartstoraceagain.Andthen…buteverythingchangedafterthatmoment,youknow.LifesloweddownalittlebitandIcontinuedtodomypractice.Theanxietyandthepanicwasgone.

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AndIcouldneverhavethisconversationtalkingaboutdeathandwhathappensandstufflikethat.Previously,IwouldliterallygetsortofpanicattacksbutafterthatIcouldliterallystarttalkingtopeoplelike,"ThisiswhatIwasafraidof.ThisishowIfixedit."AndthenIstartedthinking,youknow…andthisisactuallyafteracouplemonthsofdoingit,actuallyprobablyayearintoit.Iwaslike,ifIcandothis,ifIcantrulydothis,Icantrulyhelppeoplewho'rehavingthesamethingsbecauseIknowthere'speopleouttherethathavepanicattacks,anxietyandhighlevelsofstress.AndsoIwentonlineandIwaslike,meditationdaily.That'sacoolname.Letmegetthat.So,Ilookedonline,youknow.TherewasaURLthatwasavailable,meditationdaily.com,butitwasfromoneofthesedomainsellersanditwaslike$500.Itellmywife,"I'mgonnadothis.I'mgonnasavetheworld.I'mgonnadomeditationdaily."Andshewaslike,"Great.Howarewegonnapayourbills?"AndIwaslike,"Idon'tknowyet.Letmejustdothis."So,IboughtitandthenIliterallyjustsatbackandthought…actuallyImeditatedonitandwasthinking,youknow,meditationis…goingbacktoRonRathbunwhoistheauthorofthe"KeleeMeditation,"Ikindawentbacktohiswholeideawhichwas...hejustputawebsite.Istumbleduponitandhewasgivingitawayforfree.AndIwasjustlikethatisamazingandthat'show…there'sabunchofothermeditationpackagesandstuffouttherethatyoucanbuyfor$39.99,whatevertheyare.Buthe'sitgivingawayforfreeonhissite.AndIwaslike,"Thatforme,assomebodyinthatstate,wascompletelylegitimateandawesome."AndsoIsawthatandIdecidedtoshelvetheideaofmeditationdailyforanotherdaywhereIcouldaffordtorunitatcompletelynocost.Therewasno,Iwasnottryingtomonetizeitwith,youknow,different…wasn'tgonnahaveanytypeofbusinessmodelaroundit.Itwasjustlikegonnabeaplaceforpeopletocomeandlearnmeditationandstufflikethat.So,IputthattothesitebecauseIjustbelievedthatfromameditationstandpointyoudon'tneedtopayanythingtobehappyandfindyourstillness.And,youknow,youdon'thavetopayanythingandyoushouldn'thavetogiveorgetmoneyforthat.AndsoIsaid,youknowwhat?I'mgonnasavethatforarainydaywhichIwouldlovetododowntheroadbutIcanstillhelpsomepeopleandstillprobablymakealivingoffofthatinthealternativehealthfield.Andsothat'swhatIkindofgottogetherwithafriendandkindoftoldaboutmyexperienceandhesaid,"Ilovetheidea.Ilovetheideaof,youknow,helpingpeopleoutandmakingthistrulylifestylebusinesswherewecanhelppeopleoutandwecandothisonaday-to-dayliving."Andsowekindofbroadenedour,youknow,ourreachfrommeditationtoalternativehealth.Andthat'swhenIstartedlearningabout,youknow,foods,thetoxinsintheair,toxinsinyourfood,youknow,exercising,fitness.ImeanbeforeIwasjustkindofasurferwhowaspretty,youknow…justkindofwentaboutmyday,notworryingabout,youknow,thefoodthatIwasputtingin,etc.ButafterthatreallykindofexperienceIhadandwantedtohelppeopleout,Istartedlearningmoreandmoreabouthealthyeating,healthyliving,healthy…mindfullivingandjustkindofday-to-dayhowtomaketheworldabetterplace.Andthat'showreallyIgotstartedwithTheAlternativeDailyandit'sbeenoneofthebest,mostlifechangingexperiencesI'vehadinmylife.Katie:That'sawesomeandIlovethatyou'vereversedallthoseproblemsandthatyou'refeelingsomuchbetterandobviouslythrivingnow.AndI'msorryforyourlossofthosethreepeopleinyourlivesbutitseemslikeyou'veturneditintoanamazingthingalso.Andnowtogofromaheavysubjecttoalightsubject,butIknowthatsomethingwebothwriteaboutandarepassionateaboutiscoconutoil.So,I'dlovetohearhowyouoriginallyfoundoutaboutcoconutoilandhowyoustartedusingit.

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Jake:Sure.It'sfunnybecauseonceIstartedthesite,startedresearchingthingsandfoodsandtoxinsandstufflikethat,youknow,theonethingthatyoualwayskindofrunacrossisthatkindofcontroversywhichis,youknow,healthyfatsorit'sbadfats,goodfatsversusnotgoodfats.Youknow,onefoodthatI'vealwaysenjoyedisthecoconut.Ialwayslovetheflavor.It'skindofatropicalflavor.Youalwaysfeellike,youknow,you'reatthebeach,etc.So,alwaysbeenafanofthecoconutflavorandagaingoingbackintothatcontroversyofgoodfoodversusbadfoodandwhatmainstreamistellingyouandwhatthecontrariansaretellingyou,Isawanarticleaboutcoconutoilandit'ssomethingIhadnevertriedbeforewhichiskindof,"That'scool.Youknow,Ilikecoconut."So,Idecidedto,youknow,starteatingit.Andit'sfunny,asKatieyoucouldprobably,youknow,understandiswhenyoustartintroducingfatsintoyourdiet,healthyfats,itdoesalittlebit…andthisisforsomepeopleandnoteverybodybutforalotofpeople,youstartto…yougothroughatransitionperiod.So,ItookmyfirstscoopofcoconutoilandIcouldhavehadlikeabellyachethatmorning.AndIwaslike,"Whatisgoingon?"AndsoIdidn'teatanythingthatmorning.IjustdecidedIwasgonnaeatcoconutoil.Iwastalkingtosomebodylike,"Youneedtoatleasteatsomethingbeforeyouintroducesomethingnewlikethat."Iwaslike,"Okay,letmedothat."SoIwaseating…youknow,startedtoeatalittlehealthierandintroducing,youknow,coconuteverymorning.AndthenIfinallykindagotoverthat,youknow,thatlittlebitofabellyacheandnowit'sobviouslypartof,youknow,mymorningroutine,etc.Butitwasfunnybecause,youknow,peoplestartgivingyouthatside-eyewhenyoustartusingsomethingstrangetothemwhichis,youknow,afat,coconutoilfat.AndIstartedcookingwithitmoreandmyfamilywaslike,"Oh,mygosh.You'reputtingin…isthatlardyou'reputtingin,cookingthesechickenbreasts?"Iwaslike,"No,it'scoconutoil."AndsoI'dexplainedtothem,youknow,thedifferentbenefitsofhavingCTsandyou'reactuallyburningfat,etc.Andthey'rejustlike,"Butwhyareyouputtinglardinthere?"So,IstartedintroducingittothatwayandthenIthinkyoualsowrotethisKatieistheBulletproofCoffeewhichisawesome.AndIstartedmakingamorningcoffeewithmytypicalnormalcoffee,youknow,8ouncesto10ouncesofcoffeeandthenatablespoonortwoofgrassfedbutterandthenascoopofcoconutoil.Andthat'spartofmy,youknow,routineinthemorningnowwhichextremelyhelps,youknow,yourmentalclarity.Alsoahugeboostofenergy.Ineverhadanyboostofenergymuchlike…Imeanevencomparedtothefamousespresso,etc.YouonlyneedonecoffeeadaywhenyouhaveoneofthoseBulletproofCoffees.Andpeopleagainalwaysaregivingmeside-eyeswhenIstartintroducing,youknow,coconutoilanywayIcan.Katie:I'mrighttherewithyou.IputcoconutoilandMCToilandbutterinmycoffeeandIfoundyoucan'tevendrinkitafterlike11:00oryoudon'tsleepbecauseyouhavesomuchenergy.Jake:Itellpeople,youknow,thisisadrink…youknow,don'teventrymakeitafter2:00becauseyou’llbeupallnight.Katie:Absolutely.So,canyoudelveintoalittlebitmoreofwhycoconutoilisconsideredasuperfood?Jake:Sure,sure.Andit'sfunnywetalkaboutthisbecausesuperfood…theterm,andyouprobablyunderstandthatsuperfoodisatermthatgetsoverused.Somanypeoplethere's…youknow,youseeanythingonallthesedifferentarticlesandblogpost.Anappleisasuperfood.Abananaisasuperfood.Imeanthey'regreat,don't

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getmewrong.But,youknow,wereally,atTheAlternativeDaily,wereallytrytobecarefulofwhatwelabelsuperfood.Andfromourdefinition,youknow,it'sgottabecompletelynutrientdense.Yougottauseprettymuchallofthefruitwhetheritis,youknow…whetheryou'reconsumingitorwhatnot.Andwealsolookatthe,youknow,thetreeitself.Andagainthisisourdefinitionbecausewe'reveryveryparticularwhatwecallsuperfood.Andifyoulookatthe,youknow,theactualcoconutpalm,andasIsaid,downhereinSouthFloridasothere'salotofcoconutpalmshere.Youknow,youcantrulyusethewholetree.So,youactuallyhavethepalmsthatactuallypeopleuse,youknow,forTikiHuts,etc.Andthenyougettotheheartofthepalmwhichisgreat,reallygoodfoodtoeat.Andthenyouactuallygetkindaclosetothepalmandyouhavethiscoconutsap.Andcoconutsapifdriedoutorevenusedasanectarcanbeusedtosweetenthingsandthatismygo-tosweetener.Sowetalkedabout,youknow,coffee,iced,sweetened,anythingIcanwithcoconutcrystals.I'mnotabigsugareater.Idon'tlikealotofsweetsandthat'sjustnotfromahealthperspective.Ijustactuallyprefersaltyfoods.Ijustdon'tlikealotofsweetsandbakedgoods.So,anytypeI…youknow,ifI'mgonnamakemycoffee,Iput,youknow,coconutcrystalsinthere.It'ssogood.Andit'snotsupersweetbutitgivesyouthatcoconuttaste.Andthenyoutakealookatthenut,thefruititself,thecoconut,whichis,youknow,awesome.It'sanawesomelookingthing.Imeanwhodoesn'tloveseeingthat.Andyouactuallyhavetheshellwhichalotofpeopleusefor,youknow,forpotsandcupsanddifferentthingsthatwe'veseendownhere.Thenyouhavethecoconutmeat,verynutrient-denseandthenyouhaveyourmilkor…youknow,actuallyyourwaterwhichyoucanconvertintomilklater.So,there'sallsomanypartsofthisactualpalmtreethatyoucanusewhichiswhyweactuallylabelitasuperfoodforus.And,youknow,andthenyougetdowntotheactualoilitselfandit'slikeanyotheroilthat'soutthere.Youknow,itprovidesatremendousamountofenergyforcellularhealth.Youcanstartburningfatjustbyeatingit.Andit'sjustoneofthethingsyoucanliterallyputinanythingandbegood.AndthenlastlywhatIthinkisreallyreallysupercoolaboutitisthatyoudon'tevenhaveto…Imeanyoucaneatit.Imeanwealllovetoeatit,youknow.Ithink,Katie,yougetgallonsofit.ButbeingdownhereinFlorida,Iactuallyuseitasmysunscreen.Youknow,Icanputitallovermybody,youknow,putitinandit'sactuallykindoflikeanSPF,youknow.Fromourresearchwe'veseenitlikeanywherefromSPF7to10.So,youcouldactually...andthatobviouslyhelpswith,knowyou,burning.Alsoifyouhaveburns,youputitonanditcanhelp,youknow,easetheburnandespeciallywithwrinkles,it'sagreatanti-agingsourceaswell.So,it'ssoversatilethatit'sjust…that'swhyweconsideritsuperfood.ThereisonethingyoushouldnotdowithitthoughandIlearnedthisthehardwayissowhenIgosurf,youknow,ifIhavetoputonwhetherit'sasunscreenorhatorsomethinglikethat,youknow,I'llputitonbefore.SoI'llputon,youknow,coconutoilonetime,wentouttherethenIjumpedonmyboardandIcompletelyjustlikeslipandslide,youknow,slipandsliderightoff.Andsoit'snottoowaterproofsoassoonasIjumpedonitkindofthrewmerightoffandthenIdidlosealotofmy…Ididgetalittleburnbecauseitkindofwashedaway.Butyoudefinitely…it'sgood,ifyou'regonnabeinthesun,minimalamountstoputitonandIjustalways,youknow,alwaysputiton.I'mabaldguysomyheadtendstogetalittle,youknow,drysowhatI'lldois,youknow,literallyinthemorningandmywifelooksatmeagainside-eyedandweirdthatI'mputtingoilovermybody.Butagainputitallovermyheadjustkindofkeepmeniceandmoisturized.Andthat's,youknow…andclosingtothatonethat'sreallywhatatruesuperfoodisinourbooksissomethingyoucanuseinallaspectsoflife.AndI'llkeepthisG-Ratedbecauseit'sfunnybutweranacontestonourFacebook.Werunabunchof

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contestsonourFacebookpage.Andwewereaskingfolks,youknow,telluswhatyourbestuseofcoconutoilis.We'regonnasendyouafree,youknow,afreejarofit.Andwe'regonnasendoutthreeorfourjarstopeople.AndIgotthisprivatemessagefromsomebody.Andshesays,"Iwannawin…"anditwasliterallythis,"IwannawinabottleofcoconutoilbutIdon'twannapostthis,youknow,tothepublic."AndIwaslike,"Okay,dotell.Whatisit?"Andshesaid,"Youknow,Iwenttoadoctorand,youknow,I'vehadcancerbefore.I'minremissionandIwannabereallycarefulwithwhatIputinmybody."Andshewaslike,"SoIaskedmydoctor,whatcanIuseasalubricant?"Andhesaid,"Forapersonallubricant,ifyoudon'twannauseanyofthechemicals,coconutoilisthebestpersonallubricantthatyoucanuse."Andclosingofherstory,shesays,"AndnowI'monmysecondhoneymoonwithmyhusbandandwe'rehavinganabsoluteblasthere."AndsoIrespondedbacktoherandIwaslike,"Youwinthebottleofcoconutoil.Idon'tcarehowmanyI'mgivingaway.You'redefinitelywinningone."AndIactuallysentherone.So,itwasa…it'sgoodtokindofhearthatfromotherpeople'susesofhowtheyuseitandthatwasonethatwillalwaysstickoutmyhead.Katie:That'shilariousandIdefinitelyhavenottriedcoconutoilwhilesurfing,althoughsurfingisonmybucketlistandIwon'tcommentonwhetherifI'veuseditfortheotherpurposeornot.Butwehavealotofusesinourhouse.I'vegotactuallylikemymostpopularpostmostweeksisMy101UsesofCoconutOil.Andwhat'salwaysfunnytomeiswhenIfindsomeonewhoIknowisprettynewtomysiteandtheyleaveacommentonthatpostlike,"You'recrazy.I'mnevergonnareadanythingyouwroteagainbecausecoconutoilhassomuchsaturatedfatandyou'rekillingallthesepeople."So,canyouaddressthesaturatedfatandcoconutoilproblemandtalkaboutwhythatreallyisnotanissue?Jake:Sure.So,youknow,thewholesaturatedfatversus,youknow,unsaturatedfathasbeenlike…it'sahugecontroversy.AndIdon'tevenknowwhat'sthecontroversyanymorebutit'sonethat,youknow,usfolksinthealternativehealthfielddefinitelymarchtoourown,youknow,beattoo.Andit'sgoodbecauseit'sfinally,finally,finallycatchingon.Imeanyou'llseeitonHuffingtonPost,CNNaboutwhysaturatedfatisnowgoodforyou.And,youknow,forthepast60plusyearsthiswasinreally,reallybadpublicityforasaturatedfat.Now,alotofithadtoactuallydowithaspecific,youknow,actualtheoryorhypothesiscalledlipidhypothesis.AndIwon'tgetintokindofthedetailsofit.Butbasicallywhatitsaysis,youknow,saturatedfatsarecausing,youknow,highcholesterol,cloggingyourarteries,etc.Andafterdoingafurtherreviewofthatlateronwithinthesepastcoupleyearstheyfoundthatalotofthatwasjustshoddyresearch.AndthecoolthingwithtechnologyandtheInternetandeverything'scomingoutandallthedifferentbloggersandpublicationssitesthattherewecanallshareinformation.Andsonowwhat'shappeningisalotof…they'redoingalotofnewstudiesonwhetherornotcoconutoil,beingasaturatedfat…notsomuchcoconutoilbutsaturatedfatsareactuallycausingcloggedarteries,bellyfat,muffintops.Andit's…couldn'tbefurtherfromthetruth.Theactualkindoffattychainsthatmakeupthecoconutoil,andyoutalkaboutthisinyourintrowithyourMCTs,medium-chaintriglycerides.Andwhatthecoolthingisisthebodydoesnotactuallystorethatasfat.Itactuallygetsconvertedintoenergyortheseketones.So,whatyou'reactuallydoingbyactuallyeating,it'sathermogeniceffect.Sowhenyou'reeatingcoconutoil,literallyyoutakeascoopofit,you'reburningfatasyou'reeatingitanddigestingit.Now,nottosaythatyoushouldjustsitatyourcomputerandjustsnackoncoconutoilalldayandyou'regonnagetlikesix-packabsbutit'sagreatfoodtoeatduringthedayinadditiontoyourdietandexerciseprogram.Andsothat'stheonecoolthingaboutitiswiththoseMCTsisthatliterally,asyoueatit,you'reburningfat.It'snotcausinghigh

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cholesterol.It'snotcloggingarteries.It'snotgivingyouthebellyfat,muffintop,batwings,etc.It'sactuallyburningfatasyou'reeatingit.Katie:Ilovethat.Anditseemslikeinthepastfewdecades,especiallyinAmericawe'vemovedawayfromcoconutoilandsaturatedfatslikebutterandlardandtallowandintooilslikecanolaoilandvegetableoilandsoybeanoilandcornoil.Andthoseareusuallypromotedashealthieralternativestosaturatedfat.Sotalkaboutthose.Arethosehealthyalternativesorshouldweavoidthose?Jake:Youknow,I'mthebiggestdefenderofthisandthisisobviously,youknow,five,sixyearsagoandpriortothat.Youknow,anytimeweweregonnacooksomethinginourhouseitwasvegetableoil.Gogetthecanolaoil,youknow,gogetthesoybeanoil,youknow.We'renotgonnausethebutter.Whousethebutter,it'sgonna,youknow,itcouldgiveusheartattacks.Andit'ssofunnybecauseIwasactuallygoingintomycovertheotherday.Allthewayintheback,youknow,therewasabottleof,youknow,whatwasit,Wessonoil,Iforgetwhatitis.ButitsaidvegetableoilandIwaslike,"Thereitis."Youknow,Iwas…beentothebackbecauseallmycoconutoil'sinthefront.Andsoobviously,youknow,Idisposedofthatinanenvironmentallyfriendlyway.But,youknow,whatyouhavewiththosevegetableoilslikefatis,youknow,yougetthepartiallyhydrogenatedoilswhichisactuallycausingtransfats.IwasjustlookingthisuptheotherdayandIwaslike,"Letmeatleast…"becauseIalwaysliketotakealookat,youknow,thingsfromaveryopenperspective.Meaning,youknow,somethingjusttellsmetransfatsarebad,I'mjustnotgonnabelievethem.Iwannaunderstandwhy.AndanotherquestionIhaveis…andI'mabignaturalnaturepersonso,youknow,nottosaythateverythingthatoccurs,youknow,naturallyis"healthy"whichisn'tnecessarilytruebutithelpswhenyou'rekindoftryingtofigureoutwhatyoushouldputinyourbody.AndsoIwasactuallylookingup,youknow,transfatsandtryingtofigurethisout.AndIwaslike,"Arethereany…"Oneofmyquestionwasasking,youknow,"Arethereanynaturallyoccurringtransfats?"Itturnsoutthereactuallyisbutsuchasmallpercentage,likeit'ssuchasmallpercentageofallthefoodoutofalltheplantsandanimalsoutthere.It'sactuallyasmallpercentiscontainedinanimalproductssuchas,youknow,cattle,beefandsomedairy.Butit'ssominimalthatitreallyreallydoesn'tregister.Andsowhathappensis,youknow,peoplereallywantedtohavelikealowcaloriebutagoodtastingfoodsotheystartedcreatingthesepartiallyhydrogenatedoils.Andallthey'dreallydoisinjecting,youknow,hydrogenintothemmakingitaverygoodtypeoffriedfood,givesitagoodflavor.Andthat'swhat'scausingalloftheissuesthatpeoplearehavingnow.Andsothenwealsotrytoget…evensomeofthesavvy,let'ssay,youknow,canolaoilmarketers,etc.weretryingtogetawayfromthat.Sotheystartdoingthecanolaoil,youknow,soybeanoil,etc.andyourcottonseedoil.But,youknow,that'screatedfrom,youknow,GMOtypesoffoodproductsandtheonethingaboutcottonseedoilwhichalot…ifyoulook…I'mabigWholeFoodsguy.IdolovegoingtothosemarketsandlookingbutIstill…Idon'ttrustWholeFoods.So,I'llgothereandlookattheingredientsofdifferentfoodsandyou'llseethingsthatcontaincottonseedoil,youknow,soybeanoil,etc.Andtheonethingaboutcottonseedisisthatthecotton…youusethecottontomakeclothesbutwhatthey'realsodoingisthey'resprayingpesticidesonitbecauseit'snotmeantforconsumptionandsothey'rejustmakingclotheswithcotton.Well,youexpresssomeofthatcottonseedandtomakeitoil,you'regonnagetsomeofthosepesticideuse.They'renotworriedaboutGMObecauseifyou'reputtingitonyourclothes,if

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youputitonyourbody,reallydoesn'tmatterifyou'reputtingonGMOcottononyourbody.You'renoteatingitbutthey'retakingthoseseedsandthey'remakingoiloutofit.And,youknow,that'sjustonethingtobewaryof.Soeventhoughyoumightseesomethingthatsayslowcalorieorgoodfats,whatever,justmakesureyoudoyourresearchandtryandfigureoutwherethosecamefrom.Andthemajorityofthecottonseedoils,soybeanoilsandobviouslythevegetableoilsareGMOsoyoureallywannatryandsteerclearofthat.ButthenonemorethingthatIwannasayaboutthatisalotofthoseotheroilshaveahighOmega-6toOmega-3ratioandyoukindawantittheotherway.YouwantahigherOmega-3toOmega-6ratio.Katie:Let'ssee.So,wehavetalkedabouthowcoconutoilsupportsyourbodyinalotofwaysandyourmetabolisminmanydifferentwaystousecoconutoil.ButI'vebeenreadingyoursiteactuallyalotinthelastfewdaysandlovingallyourinformation.SoI'dlovetoswitchgearsalittlebitandtouchonsomeofyourotherpopularnaturalremediesthatyoutalkaboutonyoursiteandthingsthatyoufindhelpful.So,whataresomeotheronesthatyoufindthatpeoplearecomingtoyoursitelookingfororhavinggreatsuccesswith?Jake:Sure.That'saawesomequestion.Whatwereallyfoundwithourfolksistheyjustwanttheeasystuff.Youknow,theyjustwanttheeasystuffthattheycangototheirkitchencabinetandlookforandjustdoandfeelgoodaboutwhatthey'redoingandthenliterallyfeelfrominsidetheirbodygoodaboutit.Andtheotheronethatreallykindof,inadditiontococonutoilthatpeoplearereallyreallypsychedon,isapplecidervinegarandjustthetonsofbenefitsthatcomewithit.Youknow,it'soneofthosethingsthatI'lldrink,youknow,firstthinginthemorningassoonasIgetup,youknow,makealittlebitofasplashoftwotablespoonsofapplecidervinegar,youknow,8to10ouncesofwater.Youcouldputhoneyinthereor,youknow,coconutsugarifyouwannasweetenitup.ButwhatIreallyfindthatkindofbalancesout,youknow,yourstomachinthemorning,sometimesyoumightwakeupfromthenightbeforewhetheryouhadmaybeonemorebeer,onemoreglassofwinethanyoushouldhave.AndI’mnottalkingaboutbeinghung-overbutyoumightnot…yourstomachmightbefeelingalittleoffinthemorning.I'lljustimmediatelyjustdrinkabigglassofapplecidervinegaranditreallykindofhelpsbalanceoutthatpHinthestomach.I'lldothatthenightbeforetoobecause,youknow,evenifyou'd…let'ssayyoudohaveamealwhereyoumayhaveonetoomanycrackersoryoumayhavealittlebitofbreadorpasta,yourbellymightnotbefeelinggood.I'lldothesamethingthenightbefore.Italsohasbeenshowntoreduce,youknow,bloodsugarby6%bymorningandwewannareallykindofnormalizeoutourbloodpressure,Imeanbloodsugar,butitalsohasreally…personallyitsettlesmystomach.So,ifI'mfeelingalittle,youknow…havingalittlebitofanupsetstomachIdon'tgoformyTumsandIdon'tgoforthedifferentantacids,youknow.I'llhave,youknow,abigglassofapplecidervinegarandithelps,youknow,reallyreallykindofsooththingsdown.So,applecidervinegariswhat...andagainit's…weconsiderthatassuperfoodbecausenotonlycanyou,youknow,drinkitbutyoucandefinitelycookwithit.Andthenalsosamethingwithkindofanti-agingandskinburnsorwrinkles,etc.,youcoulddefinitelyjustrubitonyourbody,useitinyourhair.Ourwriters…Ihaveateamofabout10writersforthesiteandtheyloveit.They'retheonesthatareusingitasashampoointheirhair.Ican'tuseitbecauseI'mbaldsotheytendtoreallyreallybe…theymarchonwiththeapplecidervinegarintheirhair.Youknow,anotheroneisdefinitelysmoothiesandgreendrinksandIdon'thaveaspecificrecipe,youknow,andthere'sareasonforthat.Youknow,becausesomanypeoplegetcaughtupinlike,"Oh,mygosh.What's

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yourgreatestrecipeforthis?What'syourrecipeforthat?"Iliterallylive…whenitcomesto,youknow,smoothiesandjuicesIlivebythe80/20Rule.Andthat80/20Ruleis80%vegetables,20%fruits.AndIcan'ttellyouhowmanytimesI'vegone,youknow,withthisonFacebookoryourcommentsandsaying,"Oh,myGod.Ihadthebestpineapple,banana,appleandkiwismoothie,"andit'sjustlikethatiswaytoomuchsugargoingintoyoursystem.So,youknow…Imeaneventryit,youmightfeelalittleweirdafteryou're,youknow,eatinganddrinkingallthatsugar.So,Ialwaysliketouse80%,youknow,typicallygreens.IliketousegreensbecauseIdon'treallyliketoeatahandfulofkale,youknow,everyday.SoIputthatinmysmoothieandthenyoubalanceitoutwithsomething,youknow,likeanapple,carrotsormaybethrowinsomegingertoo.Sostufflikethatwherewetellpeople,youknow,aboutthissmoothieandgreendrinksorjuicesthatdon'talwaysputfruitsinthere.Youknow,makesureyougobuyan80/20rule,atleastofadding80%,youknow,vegetablesand20%fruits.Andsothat'sanotheronethatreallyworksoutwell.AndthenIwouldsaykindofthelastoneforusis…it'sfunny.Thisonealways…becausepeoplearejustafraidtotalkaboutitbutit'spoop,youknow.Wealwaystalkaboutwhatdoyouneedforahealthypoop.Whatarethegoodfoodsforahealthypoop?Andsoanytimewetalkaboutthatpeoplearedefinitelyintriguedbecauseittrulyis…thisjustsoundsalittleweird,Katie,butit'sthewindowtoyourinsides,meaning,ifit'snotahealthypoop,ifit'scomingoutwhereit'salittletooloosethensomethingmightbegoingwrong.Maybesomething…youhadsomethingdifferentlastnightthatyoushouldn'thave.Butthenifitfeelscomfortablecomingoutand,youknow,everythingisgood…Idon'twannagettoodetailedherethatyoumightbeonthepathtoagoodgoodhealthydiet.So,wealwayssay,youknow,takealookatit.Peekatyourpoop.Makesureyouknowwhat'sgoingon.Andpeoplelovethatstuff.Soit'sjusttheeasystuffanditkindofallgoesbacktokindofbringthisfullcirclewithwhatIlearnedfromRonRathbunandthemeditationwhichisjustgivepeoplewhattheywantforfreeandtheywillalwaystrustyouandkeepcomingbacktoyou.Andthat'showwe'vealways…that'sbeenourphilosophyislet'sjustgivepeople.So,wegivethemfreecontent,youknow.Wegivethemallofthestuffforfreeonadailybasis.So,youknow,tonsofarticles,tonsofvideosadayandpeoplejustseemto"eatitup."Andthat'swhatmyfolkslike.Katie:I'mrighttherewithyou.Ithink…IreallydothinkifyougivepeopletheinformationforfreeandmakeitverydoableandpracticalthattheywilltakethatandrunandIthinkthat'sabigthingforbothofus.Attheendoftheday,wewantthingstoactuallychangefrompeople'shealthtoimproveandsowe'reabletobothdothat.Jake:Absolutely.Katie:Forsure.AndonethingI'dlovetohearpersonally,andIbetlistenerswouldtoo,iswhatyourtypicaldaylookslikepersonallyandhowdoyouincorporateallthesenaturalremediesandhealththings?Jake:It'sfunnybecauseIgetthatquestionalotfrompeopleandit's…IwasatWholeFoodstheotherdayandIwasgoingoutpickingsomeproduceorIforgetwhat,someeggplantorsomethinglikethat.Andsomebodycameuptomeand,youknow,theyaskedmelike,"Areyouachef?"AndIwaslike,"No,why?"Andshesaid,"Thewaythatyou'reactuallyexaminingthesefoods.It'sreallyinteresting.Iliketolearnmoreaboutit."Iwaslaughing.Iwaslike,"IjustliketoeathealthilyandIrunthis,youknow,smalllittlehealthwebsite."Sotheone

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thingthat…andIkindofheardaboutitbeforewiththeapplecidervinegarisifyoustartoffassoonasIgetup,whetheritiswithlikegreens…Iliketogetagreenswhetherit'sajuiceorasupplementtypeofpowderin.OneofthefirstthingsIdoiswhenIgetup,ifIdon'thaveapplecidervinegarIdorotateitabit.SoeitherIhavelikeagreensdrinkand/oraapplecidervinegarbeforeandafter.I'llstartoffwithoneofthoseandthenIdoflushoutmysystem.Idogetalotofwater.I'mabig,big,bigwaterdrinker.ImeanIprobablydrink10to12ofmybigcupsofwatereachday.SoIliketoflushalotofstuffoutusingsomewater.SomeotherdaysIalsostartitwithwarmlemonwater.That'salsosomethingthat'sbeenahugehugehitforusatTheAlternateDailyisdoingsomeresearchandsomearticlesonwhyyoushouldstartyourdaywithwarmlemonwater.ItjustreallygetsyourdigestivesystemgoingandhelpsbalanceupthepH.AndthenI'lldoabreakfast,youknow.IreallyliketogetalotofproteininthemorningsoI'lldosomeeggs.SoI'lljustdoeggsandIdon'treallyputanythinginthereotherthanmaybesome,youknow,someseasaltintothere.AndthenI'mprettyfullbutIprettymuchsnackon,youknow,nutsandberriesthroughouttheday.Andthenaroundlunchtimethat'swhenI'llactuallyhave,youknow,anavocado.I'lltrytogetsomegreensinaswell,youknow,abanana.Andagainsomemorenuts,kindofkeepthatproteingoingandagaincontinuallysnack.Ilovenuts.RawnutsarethebestandsoIcontinuallyeatthosethroughouttheday.Andthen,youknow,beforewhenIwaskindofreallyunhealthyIwouldalwaysmaxoutwithabigmealattheend.Youknow,IeatalotforbreakfastandlunchthatIjustdon'tliketoeatalotfordinner.SoIkindofgrazeagainatdinnerbuttonsofwaterthroughouttheday.Idodrinkprobablytwotothreeglassesoftheapplecidervinegarmixedwithwaterandthecoffee.IwilladmitIamalittlebitofacoffeesnob.SoIwillhavemycoffeeinthemorningwhetherIdohaveabulletproofornot.AndthenIwillalsomaybedoacoffeeprettymuchafterlunchlikearound2:00andnotreallyoneafterthat.ButI'mjustoneofthosepeoplethatenjoys…Itrulyenjoyagooddarkroastcoffeeandit'sgood.Youknow,it'sfunnybecausecoffee'skindofthesamethingascoconutoil.Likealotofpeopleforthelongesttimethoughtitwassobadforyou,youknow,it'ssobad.Butifyougettherightkindofcoffeeandyouputintheright…youknow,ifyou'regonnaputacreaminthere,Iuse,youknow,heavywhippingcreamwhichisagoodsaturatedfatforit.So,Iputinheavywhippingcream.IntheafternoonIwon'tdothebulletprooffortheafternoon.Heavywhippingcreamandsomecoconutcrystalsand,youknow,Inevergetthat…it'snotthatIhavealowaftermylunch.Ijust,youknow,justoneanothertasteofcoffeeandthenI'mgoodtogo.Sothat'swhatIdoisjustcontinuallytotryandtoeatwholefoodsthroughouttheday.Andagain,youknow,weallgoouttoeatoccasionally.AndIknowthatifIwillgoouttoeatorifIwillgotosomebody'shousethatdoesn'tcookthebestfoodthat'suptopar,I'maveryveryeasygoingperson.SowhatI’lltrytodois,youknow,ifIknowthatI'mgoingsomewherewhereit'snotgonnabethebestfoodthatIparticularlylike,I'lleat,youknow,ahandfulofnuts.SoI'lltrytoeatbeforeandhaveasmoothie,haveagreensdrinkssothatwayI'malittlefull.AndIwilltastesomethinginfrontofpeople.Iwillhavealittlebitjust…because,youknow,peoplewillgetpissedoffifyoudon'thitthefood.So,youknow,Iwillhaveabiteortwoofwhatthey'reservingandbenicesothatwejustdon'thavetogetinaconversationof,youknow,whyI'mnoteatingtheirfoods.Butthat'skindofhowIgoaboutmyday.Andit'sgoodandthebigthingformeandI'msureyouprobablypreachthisisI'mbigonliketestingyourself,meaningifyouwannagoouthaveamealatOutbackorwhatever,howdoyoufeelafterwards?Imeanifyoudon'tfeelgood,something'swrong.AndIcantellyou100%ofthetimewithhaving,youknow,mymorninggreensand

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myeggsandthenhavingavocadosandbananasandberriesandnuts,Ineverfeelbadlyafterhavingthose.AndIalwayshaveagoodsourceofenergy.AndInevergotosleepkindoflikewithabellyache.Andthat'swhatI'mverybigonis,youknow,ishowdoyoufeelafteryoueat.Ifit'sgood,youknowwhat?Keepdoingwhatyou'redoingbutkeepresearchingwhatyou'redoingtomakesureyou'redoingittherightway.Butifit'sbad,youknow,changeitup.Ifyoudon'tfeelgood,changeitup.ButIthinkasyouprobablyknowtoo,thereisthatstage,andalotofmyfriendstalkaboutthis,ofthattransitionperiodfromwhenyougofromreallybadjunkfoodeatingtocleaneating.Thereisatransitionperiodwhereyou'rekindof,youknow…hey,whatisthisfoodthat'sgettingintroduced,youknow?Andthenonceyou'reinthecleaneatingstageandyougobackforamealortwoofeatingsomeoflikethebadfood,youfeelitevenmore.Andwhetherit'syou'remoreawareofitnoworwhetherit'sactuallyhurtingyoualittlebitmoreisupfordebate.ButI'mdefinitelymoreofawareofitnowthatIamcleaneatingnowso…Katie:Idefinitelyagree.IthinkthatpersonalizationissoimportantbecauseonethingIfoundrecently,I'vehadHashimoto's…thyroidproblemsforawhile.And,youknow,eggsareconsideredasuperfoodinmostinthehealthindustry.AndInoticedsomethinginmydietwasstillnotaffectingmewhileeventhoughIwasprettymuchoffdairyandoffgrainsandoffalotoftheinflammatoryfoods.AndsoIhadthechancetoruntheIgGandIgEandIgMtestanditturnsouteggwasoneofmybadones.AndsoonceIremovedeggsIfoundIgotbetterwhichwassurprisingbecauseeggsareahealthfood.So,Ithinkattheendofthedayyoudohavetolookatyourownpersonalstory,nottakeanything…ImeanwewouldbothsaythisI'msure.Evenanythingwewrite,don'ttakeitatfacevalue.Researcheverythingalways.Jake:Ahundredpercent.Andalwaysjustgobackto,youknow,howdoyoufeelafterward.AndlikeIwasbringingup,youknow,theheavycreaminyourcoffeeandstufflikethat.Thatmaynotsitwellwithyoubut,youknow,it'sfineforme.Andformepersonallysometimesgreenteacanbealittletoostrongformewhereitkindofgivesmealittlefuzz.So,youknow,ifIdohavegreenteaIreally…I'llhaveit.I'llsteepit.ButI'lladdatonmorewatertoitand,youknow,maybeeveniceitdownbecauseit'ssometimesitcangetjustreallyalmosttoopotentformewhereIkindof,asIliketosay,getalittletweakedout.Soitdefinitely,youknow…butgreenteaisgreat,hasgreatpropertiesforeverybody,youknow,anti-cancerproperties.ButformeIjustcan'thavesuchaconcentratedselectionofitbut,youknow,Icouldgetmycoffeeintowhichhelps.Butabsolutely,it'sverypersonalizedandIthinkthat'swheretheindustryisgoing…andIshouldn'tevensayindustrybutkindof,youknow,healthingeneral.Andpeopleshouldbelookingandislike,howdoesitaffectyou?EventhoughwhatyoureadonTheAlternateDailyorWellnessMamaorwhateveryousee,youknow,buthowdoesitaffectyou?Tryit.Youknow,atleasttryitso…Katie:Absolutely.AndI'mexcitedtoseealotofthetechnologiesmovingtowardhavinglabtestsbeveryassessableandalotlessexpensive,whichIthinkisgonnabehugeforalotofpeople.Jake:Absolutely,andthat'sgonnabegoodfromthesupplementrangetoois,youknow,alotofpeoplewilljusttakeasupplementbecauseit'sbeensaidthatit'sgoodforyou.Andsupplementswillhelpsomepeopleoutbutyoumightneedalittlebitmoremilligramsorwhateveritisthan,youknow,thetypicalpersonoryoumightactuallyneedalot…youmightneedtoputalotless.And,youknow,there'sdefinitelysomegoodtechnologiescomingouttherethatwillbeabletotestpeopleforthatinsayingyouonlyneed,youknow,thisamountforyouspecificallyofthisspecificsupplementandthat'sjustgonnamakeeverybodybetter.

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Katie:Definitely.Well,Icannotbelievewe'recomingtotheendofourtimealreadybecauseI'vehadsomuchfunchatting.ButIalwaysaskthreequestionsattheend.Jake:Goforit.Katie:SoIwouldlovetohearyouranswers.Whatisonepieceofadviceyouwishsomeonehadgivenyouearlierinyourlife?Jake:OnepieceofadviceIwishsomebodywouldhavegivenmeearlierinlife.Iwouldsay…anditkindofgoesbacktowhatweweresaying,whichisIdon'twannasaydoubteverythingbutquestioneverything.Andthat'showI'vealwayskindoflivedmylifeandIwishIwouldhaveseenthatalittleearlier,justdoubt,youknow…notdoubteverything,questioneverythingandgetyourownopinion,youknow.Andyouneedtobehappymorethananythingelse.Andyoubecomemorehappywhenyouquestion,youknow,statusquo.Andstatusquomightberightatthattimeornotbutatleastyouhaveyourownanswer.Andsoit'squestioneverythingandmakesurethatyouarehappywithyourself.Soformethosetwogoreallyhandinhandtogether.Katie:Ilovethat.Andthenextoneis,one,ifyouhadtoboilitdowntooneactionstep,what'sonethingyouwouldrecommendforlistenerstostartdoingtodaytoimprovetheirhealth?Jake:Ithastogobacktothetestingyourself,meaning,youknow,addinginmoregreensoraddingin,youknow,lesswheat.Andtherearestillpeopleouttherethatarereadingyourblog,thatarereadingmine,thataresaying,youknowwhat?Maybe,youknow,thewholewheatthingdoesn'tapplytomeormaybethatglutendoesn'treallyapplytome.Well,really,youknow,takeastepbackandseehowyoufeelafteramealandbehonestwithyourself.That'sahugethingisbeinghonestwithyourself.ButittookmethelongesttimewhenI…youknow,startingtogetdownmygrainsandgetdownonmy,youknow,yourbreadsandpastaswhichwasIwasn'tfeelinggoodatnightandforthelongesttimeIliedtomyselfbecause,youknow,pastasaregood.WeneedthosecarbsbutIfinallylookedatitandsaid,Idon'tfeelgood.It'sokaynottoeatbreadandpastaanymore.Istartedfeelingwaybetteratnightandlostatonofweight.So,youknow,testitonyourself.Testwithgoodthings.Test,youknow,takingsomeofthisstuffoutandseehowyoufeelandIthinkthatthat,youknow,willonlybenefityou.Katie:Absolutely.Andthenlastly,whatisafavoritehealthresourceyouhave,maybeabookorawebsiteorevenadocumentary,besidesobviouslyyourownsite?WhichI'mgonnalinktointheshownotes.Jake:Sure.Otherthanthewellnessmama.comwhichisobviouslyoneofmygo-topagesafterIcheckmyown,youknow,whenitcomesdownforme…andI'mgonnacomefullcirclewithourentirechatwhichis,youknow,itcomestothewholewellbeingandwellnessofaperson.Andwhatledmedownthisroadwas,youknow,wasmeditationandwhichreallykindofhelpedmegetintobeingself-aware,beingfoodaware,beingenvironmentallyaware.And,youknow,eventhoughitdoesn'tcomedowntofoodforthislastlittlerecommendation,IwouldfeelthatIwasn'tdoingthisjusticeandsaybutitwasdefinitelyIwouldhaveyourfolkslookintomeditationandspecificallyit'sKeleeMeditation,youknow,K-E-L-E-E.It'sactuallycalledthekelee.org.AndIhavenofinancialoraffiliateoranytypeofaffiliationwiththem.It'sjustthat,youknow,ithelpsme

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becomeabetterpersonallaroundfromafoodsperspective,fromamindbodyperspective,fromaspiritualperspective.AndIdefinitelywouldrecommendthatbooktoanybody.Katie:Awesome.And,Jake,wherecanpeoplefindyouiftheywannareadmoreofyourwork?Jake:Sure.So,youhavethealternativedaily.com.Andforyourfolks,youknow,thatarelisteningtothisifyoueverwannaemailme,it'[email protected]'dlovetohearfromyouguysand,youknow,justcheckusouteveryday.Youknow,weupdatethesitefiveorsixtimesaday.Wedovideos.Wedocontests.Wedoalotofthings.Sowe'rereallyouttheretryingtogiveyouguysthebestcontent,thebestkindofbreakingnewsinalternativehealththat'soutthereandwe'dlovetohearfromyourfolks.Katie:Awesome.Well,thankyouJakesomuchforbeinghere.Andthankyoutoallofyouforlistening.Andjustareminder,youcangotowellnessmama.com/go/coconutbook,alloneword,andgetagreatdiscountonJake's"CoconutOilSecretBook."Andalsogotothealternativedaily.comandreadalloftheirgreatinformationthere.

Andifyouwould,I'dbereallyappreciativeifyouwouldtakeasecondtosubscribetothispodcastandleavearatingorreviewsothatotherscanfindusaswell.Anduntilnexttime,haveahealthyweek.