110125 decisions energy wise and otherwise
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Discussion about the decision making processes mid renovation on 503 Scott in Clovis, CA. Especially around the Comfort System.TRANSCRIPT
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Decision Making:Energy Wise & Otherwise
Fireplace?
Mini SplitHeat Pump?What Size?Even with 2Room Adds?How about a
GarageConversion?Still 2 ton?
How can we reduce the heat load?
Concealed Unit or Wall
Mount?
Ducts Inside Envelope or in
the Attic?
Buyer wants
changes?
How much can a 2 ton do?
1 zone or 2?
How bad is “Oversizing?”
When to keep old equipment?
Does a Room Add
makes sense?
Manual J?Manual D?
Western Exposure?
Low E 140?
Change Order?
How tight can we get this one?
Need an ERV-HRV?
Rigid Insulation?
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The Sign Sold The HouseActually, the client had
responded to our CraigsList ad about 18 months ago.
She had loved the work, just wasn’t sold on the
neighborhood. She remembered our sign and
when she saw it in a “better” neighborhood, she called and
after a quick look, said, “I’ll take it.”
This is the 6th house (out of 12) that has been sold before it was finished. Pre-sales are
great but have their own challenges (discussion)
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This Thing’s Gotta GoThey make a big noise
when they hit the ground!
This one is 30 years old, and although our lipstick
flipping competitors would just put in a new filter and
keep on going, for us, that’s not a choice.
Take it off before the re roofing.
No need for a crane with
gravity’s help.
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We Love Pools
Because most investors dont.
Especially in the hot Cental Valley, a pool is a draw for
buyers.
This one needs a re-plaster.
Shop around. Contractors are hungry. Good prices abound.
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Bad Roofing Detail
This needs ametal valley.
Although this may work for a few
years, it wont last for the 30 year rating of the
shingles.
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Correct Valley DetailHere the metal valley
flashing is installed under the new 30 year
comp roof.
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New PEX InstallPhoto shows that we dont remove more drywall than
necessary. We never technically do a “full gut
remodel”
No use filling up the landfill... Or buying new drywall.
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That Cabinet Soffit Was TheWorst Energy Bandit
Area where soffit was removed gave free access from
the attic down the walls.
If this soffit had not been removed, the walls should
have been sealed at the top or filled with insulation, along with
the soffit.
We prefer to remove them and have a flat ceiling.
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Fireplace Had To Go
With apologies to interior decorators and Realtors who like them. They are the
biggest energy losers around.
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10 Weeks To Get This Piece Of Paper
Unbelievable!
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Recycling Save the landfill
Save the labor
Save the money
New drive to rear alley will work perfectly for new buyer’s
truck and landscape maintenance trailer
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High and Low Eyebrow VentsThe main purpose of
doing this is to eliminate conventional eave vents which are
energy losers.
It takes an infrared camera to see and
believe this ... But once you see ...
You’ll minimize eave venting.
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Wrap On Eastern AdditionWe were just going to do this
conventionally, when the buyer decided to convert the garage
sometime in the future.
Adding rigid foam to these new walls will drop the heat-cool
load enough to allow the smallest Heat Pump to still
work!
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Example of Rigid Foam This was a previous home
where we used rigid foam over rotted plywood siding.
Note the gable vent to add venting.
And the Mini Split Heat Pump Location.
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After Final Dash Coat
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Trusses & Roof InstalledUsing trusses, even on
such small jobs like this, still saves money and allows a perfect match in the roof
plane of the existing trusses.
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Living and Dining Bump OutWe wouldn’t have done this addition if it had to stand on
it’s own merits.
But all the trades were on site to do the Bath and closet
addition at the other end of the house. And this extended
into wasted sideyard.
Now the Great Room & Dining Area will be
Remarkable
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Foil Backed OSBThis helps a little.
The additive alternate pricing difference is so
small, it is worth it to go ahead and add it.
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Before The Bump OutNote the old cellulose
insulation,
Gable Vent
Let In bracing, not used any more.
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Panasonic ERVFor $300 materials and $300
install, why would we not give our clients clean fresh air?
For some reason new home builders have resisted all the
way till this year.
A sad commentary, which indicates that contractors need
regulation ..... Or the buying public needs to wake up,
get educated and DEMAND better building
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ERV & Mini Split (typical)
Panasonic ERVFujitsu Indoor
Unit Wall Mounted
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Indoor Unit
From Stock
Photography
Indoor units can be quite unobtrusive.
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ERV & Concealed Unit Of Fujitsu Mini Split
Panasonic “Spot ERV”This unit
delivers fresh air all to this
spot. Circulation from both zones is
required to distribute the
fresh air. Not A
Problem.
Concealed Unit &
Ductwork is above this lowered ceiling
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Mini Split Concealed UnitBefore It Got Concealed
Notice the hard pipe instead of flex. Hard pipe is smoother
and produces less static pressure. Mini Splits are less
able to overcome static pressure than their bigger
American Cousins.
So Mini Split Ducts should be as short and straight and
smooth as possible.
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Mini Split - Air VelocityThe moving
dampers, easily throw the air 18 fee across
the space.
This is a good application for
open space floor plans.
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Confirming Velocity and Adjusting Dampers.
In this application, the dampers should be adjusted for balance and locked in place before the ceiling is
installed.
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Hard Pipe With Smooth Transitions
Smooth Square to Round Transitions and straight runs create the least
static pressure and make this system work better than anyone expected.
It’s old school work and many HVAC installers
dont have the knowledge or tools to do it. It pays
to ask.
CondensateDrain
Freon Lines
Dampers
Transitions
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Mini Split Roof MountReasons GEE mounts the outside unit on the roof
1. Avoid Theft2. Avoid kids & sticks = Back Yard Blender
3. Avoid Lawnmower rocks4. Avoid dogs confusing them
with fire hydrants5. Shorter Freon run
6. Less elevation change7. = More energy efficient8. Save space in side yard.
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Mini Split Ground Mount
Reasons why most contractors mount the outside unit on the
ground:
1. They’ve always done it that way.
2.3.4.5.
6. I cant think of any more...
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Mini Split Using Flex DuctworkThis is not as efficient as
1. Indoor Unit on the Wall2. Ductwork in the Conditioned Space
3. Hard Pipe Ductwork.
But it works in a very tight envelope with a low load.
(Not recommended without the tight envelope and good
insulation)
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Mini Split Using FlexThe entire unit is wrapped in additional FSK insulation. This would be skipped by normal
HVAC Contractors.
The envelope and insulation is so efficient that the customer
has rarely turned on one whole zone (bedroom wing)
after one year.
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Gas vs Electric: Surprised?
Note the Variables.
$.16 electricity$1.25 gas
80% efficientfurnace
(roof mount)300% efficient
heat pumpGood R8 ducts
on both
Why the cost to heat is the
same:1. 300%
efficiency vs 80% Even 300
vs 92 would not make much difference.
2. Stay in low tiers and get
“electric only” rate Here’s the address of
the online calculator
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One Way To Mount Mini SplitConcealed Units.
Two Concealed
Units Sharing a large 20” x
30” Filter Return Box
(You wont see this anywhere else...Trade Secrets Revealed? Or just big
boys havin’ fun with the toys?)
Ducts to Living Area go
this way
Ducts to Bedrooms go
this way
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Looking Up At 2 Concealed Units Sharing a 20x30 Filter Grille & Access
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2 Concealed Units In The Attic
Ducts and Unit and Attic
still need insulation
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Hard Pipe
Boot is sealedDucts still
need sealing and insulation
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Third PermitRoof and Change
Order incl Gas Line
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Pool Re-Plumbing Permit
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Original Permit (s)
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Plot plan showing both
room additions
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Shows total square
footage.
Newest (owner’s) plan is to convert the garage
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Note Minimum Energy
Standards
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Floor Plan
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Owner Requested and Paid Change Order
Wall Removal and Stove Relocation
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Foundation Plan showing
required footings
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Roof plan showing required venting
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Section Showing Trusses
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Electrical Plan
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HVAC Plan Showing central
location and shared filter. All
runs are very short and/or straight for max efficiency on the low static Mini
Split Blowers.
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Typical Home Performance Contracting Decision Tree
Typical GEE Decision Tree
Sell Customer on appointmentDiagnostics & Test In
Computer Modeling and Proposal Preparation
Get input from roundtableDecide on a Scope of Work
Try to sell the jobCustomer slashes budget
Re model the revised scopeLick wounds
Create new scope and proposalYahoo! Make the small sale
Retest & pretest for programInstall the job
Test out3rd party test out
Turn in to ProvidershipWait. Negotiate.
Get coveted piece of paperWait .......
Look at the jobDecide it’s going to get the
30-13-55-15-300-8-.5-ES-3PV*Package
Do the Job
* Package includesU30 windows, R55 Attic, R13
walls, 300% heat pump, 15 SEER AC, R8 ducts, .5cfm50/sf
leakage, Energy Star Lites & Appliances, 3KW PV system
= Near Net Zero
All the time we dont spend, goes to Family Time,
Inventing new systems, Saving the Planet etc.