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From [email protected] Sat Aug 04 06:38:41 2001To: Subject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Repost of an good articleFrom: "Chris Young" Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:38:41 -0400--------Now, there's a subject dear to my heart. With my every day use of Mini-Mag, andpager I do find myself using more AA than other sizes of batteries.

I bought some NiMH (which I fondly call "Nickle dimes") and they do well forthe minimag. I have to remember to change them every night with the ones in thecharger. Not a big deal, for me.

And rechargable alkalines in my pager.

The battery manufacturers may want you to think that run-down tests are misleading. However, when you are in a dark cellar (as I have been several times this week) the only thing that really matters is if you twist the Minimag will it put out light. Knowing that a cell delivers 100 mAh, at 25 mA per hour, with a terminal voltage of 0.8 is nice, but it doesn't help you find the ladder that getsyou up and out.

And knowing that a battery has 20% greater performance is no comfort when your camera flash is failing to charge.

Personally, I prefer actual use tests.

Of course, I'm a bit nerdy and like these toys. I should just buy the Toshib

a alkalines (about $11 for 40 cells at BJ's).Christopher A. YoungP.O. Box 442Macedon, NY 14502

Improve your spirituality at www.lds.org----- Original Message -----From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Saturday, August 04, 2001 8:09 AMSubject: [misc_survivalism_moderated] (fwd) Repost of an good article from a G

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>>I decided to perform a few simple tests: I'd pop sets of each>>heavily hyped battery into, say, a Palm organizer and see how>>long they took to run down. What could be more scientific?>>>>As it turns out, almost anything. When I shared my plans with>>representatives of the Big Three Duracell, Eveready and Rayovac>>they told me, with the weary sighs of people who explain this>>point to journalists every day, that battery run-down tests are>>terribly misleading.

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From [email protected] Sat Aug 04 07:46:01 2001To: [email protected]: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Repost of an good articleFrom: Dusty Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 07:46:01 -0600--------Come on Chris, Panasonic has ALWAYS produced the best dry cellbattaries! Always have and always will! I have messed with nEveready,Energizer, Duracell, and a few others. Panasonic wins hands down

everytime!Carl

Chris Young wrote:>> Now, there's a subject dear to my heart. With my every day use of> Mini-Mag, and pager I do find myself using more AA than other sizes of> batteries.> I bought some NiMH (which I fondly call "Nickle dimes") and they> do well for the minimag. I have to remember to change them every night> with the ones in the charger. Not a big deal, for me.> And rechargable alkalines in my pager.

>> The battery manufacturers may want you to think that run-down> tests are misleading. However, when you are in a dark cellar (as I> have been several times this week) the only thing that really matters> is if you twist the Minimag will it put out light. Knowing that a cell> delivers 100 mAh, at 25 mA per hour, with a terminal voltage of 0.8 is> nice, but it doesn't help you find the ladder that gets you up and> out.> And knowing that a battery has 20% greater performance is no> comfort when your camera flash is failing to charge.> Personally, I prefer actual use tests.>> Of course, I'm a bit nerdy and like these toys. I should just buy

> the Toshiba alkalines (about $11 for 40 cells at BJ's).> Christopher A. Young> P.O. Box 442> Macedon, NY 14502>> Improve your spirituality at www.lds.org> ----- Original Message -----> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 8:09 AM

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> Subject: [misc_survivalism_moderated] (fwd) Repost of an good> article from a GPS group>> >>I decided to perform a few simple tests: I'd pop sets of each> >>heavily hyped battery into, say, a Palm organizer and see how> >>long they took to run down. What could be more scientific?> >>> >>As it turns out, almost anything. When I shared my plans with> >>representatives of the Big Three Duracell, Eveready and Rayovac> >>they told me, with the weary sighs of people who explain this> >>point to journalists every day, that battery run-down tests are> >>terribly misleading.>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [email protected]>> Group webpage:>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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From [email protected] Sat Aug 04 11:47:52 2001To: Subject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Repost of an good articleFrom: "Chris Young" Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:47:52 -0400--------You're entitled to your opinion. Don't let facts stand in your way.

Christopher A. YoungP.O. Box 442

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Macedon, NY 14502

Improve your spirituality at www.lds.org----- Original Message -----From: DustyTo: [email protected]: Saturday, August 04, 2001 9:46 AMSubject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Repost of an good article

Come on Chris, Panasonic has ALWAYS produced the best dry cellbattaries! Always have and always will! I have messed with nEveready,Energizer, Duracell, and a few others. Panasonic wins hands downeverytime!Carl

Chris Young wrote:>> Now, there's a subject dear to my heart. With my every day use of> Mini-Mag, and pager I do find myself using more AA than other sizes of> batteries.> I bought some NiMH (which I fondly call "Nickle dimes") and they> do well for the minimag. I have to remember to change them every night

> with the ones in the charger. Not a big deal, for me.> And rechargable alkalines in my pager.>> The battery manufacturers may want you to think that run-down> tests are misleading. However, when you are in a dark cellar (as I> have been several times this week) the only thing that really matters> is if you twist the Minimag will it put out light. Knowing that a cell> delivers 100 mAh, at 25 mA per hour, with a terminal voltage of 0.8 is> nice, but it doesn't help you find the ladder that gets you up and> out.> And knowing that a battery has 20% greater performance is no> comfort when your camera flash is failing to charge.> Personally, I prefer actual use tests.

>> Of course, I'm a bit nerdy and like these toys. I should just buy> the Toshiba alkalines (about $11 for 40 cells at BJ's).> Christopher A. Young> P.O. Box 442> Macedon, NY 14502>

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From [email protected] Sat Aug 04 09:12:40 2001To: Subject: [misc_survivalism_moderated] BatteriesFrom: "Possum Hunter" Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:12:40 -0400--------Carl wrote:> Come on Chris, Panasonic has ALWAYS produced the best dry cell battaries!Always have and always will.

It depends on the device being powered. I have found that in high draindevices such as my CD player boom box, Dollar General brand Alkaline tend tolast the longest...Honest They are very good batteries! In medium drain

devices such as my Sangean ATS-818 Short-wave, Panasonic and Hitachi-MaxellBatteries do best. In low drain devices such as my GE Superadio, EnergizerIndustrial Alkaline seem to last almost forever. Energizer Industrials alsolast longest in my Palm PDA. Battery life depends much on the freshness ofthe battery when you buy it. I always look in the beck of the batterydisplays for the newest dates.The ONLY battery I will use in my vehicles is the Interstate Megatron.

Of course, Your mileage may vary.

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From [email protected] Sat Aug 04 14:46:58 2001To: [email protected]

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Subject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] BatteriesFrom: Dusty Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 14:46:58 -0600--------I have had considerable luck with Panasonic. The self-recharge rate isfaster and more complete than Duracell or Energizer.Carl

Possum Hunter wrote:>> Carl wrote:> > Come on Chris, Panasonic has ALWAYS produced the best dry cell> battaries!> Always have and always will.>> It depends on the device being powered. I have found that in high> drain> devices such as my CD player boom box, Dollar General brand Alkaline> tend to> last the longest...Honest They are very good batteries! In medium> drain> devices such as my Sangean ATS-818 Short-wave, Panasonic and> Hitachi-Maxell

> Batteries do best. In low drain devices such as my GE Superadio,> Energizer> Industrial Alkaline seem to last almost forever. Energizer Industrials> also> last longest in my Palm PDA. Battery life depends much on the> freshness of> the battery when you buy it. I always look in the beck of the battery> displays for the newest dates.> The ONLY battery I will use in my vehicles is the Interstate Megatron.>> Of course, Your mileage may vary.>> Possum

>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [email protected]>> Group webpage:>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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From [email protected] Sat Aug 04 21:45:30 2001To: Subject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] BatteriesFrom: "Possum Hunter" Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:45:30 -0400--------Carl wrote:> I have had considerable luck with Panasonic. The self-recharge rate isfaster and more complete than Duracell or Energizer.

The Energizer Industrial is NOT the same critter as the Energizers you find

on the mass market! You can only find them at electronic wholesaledistributors.

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