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JOHN LOCKE VS. THOMAS HOBBES CONFLICTING VIEWS OF MAN AND POLITICS

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Page 1: Great philosopher of the 17 th century  Supported new scientific movements  Visited Paris  Knew Descartes, Galileo, and Harvey  A great historian

JOHN LOCKE VS. THOMAS HOBBES

CONFLICTING VIEWS OF MAN AND POLITICS

Page 2: Great philosopher of the 17 th century  Supported new scientific movements  Visited Paris  Knew Descartes, Galileo, and Harvey  A great historian

Background for Thomas Hobbes1588-1679

Great philosopher of the 17th century Supported new scientific movements Visited Paris Knew Descartes, Galileo, and Harvey A great historian 1st book was a history book, History of the

Peloponnesian War Witnessed the horrors of the English Civil

War

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The Leviathan

One of the most influential books ever written

Hobbes’ aim was to provide a justification for a strong central authority

Portrayed man and society in a materialistic and mechanical way

All humans are egotistical and selfish

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Nature of man and government

Man is driven by physical motivations only

Man does not seek higher spiritual things Lacks the capability of true morality Left along man is destructive Man must be controlled That control comes in the form of a

strong central ruler- The Leviathan

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Hobbes in his own words

"In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently, not culture of the earth, no navigation, nor the use of commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth, no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."[2]

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Nature of monarchy The sovereign has twelve principal rights: because a successive covenant cannot override a prior one, the subjects cannot (lawfully)

change the form of government. because the covenant forming the commonwealth results from

subjects giving to the sovereign the right to act for them, the sovereign cannot possibly breach the covenant; and therefore the subjects can never argue to be freed from the covenant because of the actions of the sovereign.

the sovereign exists because the majority has consented to his rule; the minority have agreed to abide by this arrangement and must then assent to the sovereign's actions.

every subject is author of the acts of the sovereign: hence the sovereign cannot injure any of his subjects and cannot be accused of injustice.

following this, the sovereign cannot justly be put to death by the subjects. because the purpose of the commonwealth is peace, and the sovereign has the right to do

whatever he thinks necessary for the preserving of peace and security and prevention of discord. Therefore, the sovereign may judge what opinions and doctrines are averse, who shall be allowed to speak to multitudes, and who shall examine the doctrines of all books before they are published.

to prescribe the rules of civil law and property. to be judge in all cases. to make war and peace as he sees fit and to command the army. to choose counsellors, ministers, magistrates and officers. to reward with riches and honour or to punish with corporal or pecuniary punishment or

ignominy. to establish laws about honour and a scale of worth.

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The Concept of “Contract”

The “contract” is a concept seen in the works of Hobbes, Locke and Rousseau

For Hobbes it is an agreement to live in a tightly controlled society

People would give up their personal rights to ensure peace and self defense

In a fashion- The “Golden Rule”

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Revolution????? No Way!!

For Hobbes anarchy is more dangerous than tyranny

There is no argument for appeal Rulers should be absolute and unlimited

in their power

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Type of Government

For Hobbes the type of absolutism was not of concern

Whether it is a monarchy, oligarchy, legislative body etc. does not matter

It is the nature of authority not the type. For Hobbes the worst form of government

is the representative form ie. Republic

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John Locke

The most influential political thinker of the 17th century

Major source of criticism against absolutism

Foundation of liberal political philosophy Puritan sympathies Family fought on the side of Parliament in

Civil War Locke was considered radical in both his

religious and his political views

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First Treaties of Government

Rejects argument for absolutism Although this first work by Locke is not

widely read it did prove to be the starting point for his argument supporting representative government

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Second Treaties of Civil Goverment

Here Locke presents his full argument for representative government

Opposite to Hobbes he presents the nature of man to be good, reasonable and full of goodwill

Man has certain natural rights Life Liberty property

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Locke’s argument continued

Man has a strong capacity for living peacefully in society

There is modest conflict and competition but not war

They enter into a contract with the leader to protect the rights

Locke concludes that the best form of government is one of limited authority

Conflict exists only when rulers fail to defend the natural rights of their citizens

Locke concludes that man has the RIGHT OF REBELLION!!!!

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Letters Concerning Toleration

Provided a foundation for religious toleration and religious liberties

He also advocated the separation of Church and State

Many of his ideas will be incorporated after 1688 (Glorious Rev.) and after the American Rev.

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Essay Concerning Human Understanding

Concerned itself with psychology Man is born the Tabla Rasa, the Blank

Slate The events of our lives determine who we

will be Change the environment, change the

man Rejects the idea of original sin People are not born good or bad Society makes us what we are

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Locke and Hobbes

Both men present a rational reasonable argument for their perspective concept of government

Both men were a product of their experience

Both me will have a profound impact on the subject of political science

Their views are still being argued today